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Add a tier 3 light tank between the Puma and m41! It´s time after so many years


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Another patch and no light tank to fill that giant gap for germany. 

 

My favorites are:

 

Spähpanzer Luchs (especially since btr and type 87 rcv got added):

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PT76B:

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One of these should be finally added to the left line next patch. 

 

More suggestions would be nice

 

 

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I am 3 Parallel universes ahead of you.

perfect rank 3 br 3.0/3.3

 

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13 hours ago, Ghostmaxi said:

I am 3 Parallel universes ahead of you.

perfect rank 3 br 3.0/3.3

 

Yeah that would be possible aswell but it wouldn't really close that gap since it would be the same br as the puma

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Those are rank1 tanks and wouldn't help at all for a tier 3 light tank

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Here is a couple of suggestions though (some of) these can be moved to Tier IV or higher

Thyssen Henschel UR-416

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Condor APC

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Mowag MR-8 designated as "Sonderwagen IIa" (used mainly by the Bundesgrenzschutz)

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Alvis Saladin designated as "Sonderwagen III" (used mainly by the Bundesgrenzschutz)

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VK 16.02 "Leopard" (Note: this tank was never finished but still worth noting)

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6 minutes ago, AspandaIV said:

Here is a couple of suggestions though (some of) these can be moved to Tier IV or higher

Thyssen Henschel UR-416

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Condor APC

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Mowag MR-8 designated as "Sonderwagen IIa" (used mainly by the Bundesgrenzschutz)

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Alvis Saladin designated as "Sonderwagen III" (used mainly by the Bundesgrenzschutz)

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VK 16.02 "Leopard" (Note: this tank was never finished but still worth noting)

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Thanks, there are many which could help. I knew about the VK 16.02 but I think the chances of gaijin adding it is zero (at least atm). Would have been a cool tank since it looks like a mini panther 

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The funny haha choice:

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The less funny haha choice:

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There's also the more controversial option of the BMP-1A1 Ost. No autoloader and no missile:

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Also, with regards to the Spähpanzer Luchs, I'd much rather get the prototype at 5.7 and save the production vehicles for a higher BR.

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16 minutes ago, DMYEugen said:

Also, with regards to the Spähpanzer Luchs, I'd much rather get the prototype at 5.7 and save the production vehicle for a higher BR.

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Yeah that would be better. Shame there is no apfsds for the rh202 cannon (or a better apds). BMP 1 Ost would probably still 6.3 or 6.7.

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9 hours ago, Chris4win said:

 

Thanks, there are many which could help. I knew about the VK 16.02 but I think the chances of gaijin adding it is zero (at least atm). Would have been a cool tank since it looks like a mini panther 

actually with this upcoming patch gaijin has once again reverse on their no prototypes tanks into the game (Well they always allowed them, just as premiums) and is adding in a prototype to the game. i mean its russian so we dont have a clue if theyre truely reversing on their word or just more russian bias.

 

however that would mean we could get the vk1602 into the game. or even the prototype leopard 1. (that would be a nice 6.7 tank)

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Here's a few more that I remembered/found (All with 20mm guns):

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APE. This one requires the gunner to expose themselves to fire the weapon.

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The TPz-1 Fuchs fitted with the same turret as above:

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Fuchs KRK:

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Two other 20mm equipped Fuchs variants with different turrets:

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I don't actually know if this one is just a mockup or not but its the SPz AFP-3. Don't be fooled, into thinking that its a small boy, This thing is 7 meters long and is meant to transport at least 10 dismounts.

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Here's a super interesting Venezuelan Fuchs with an M40 recoilless rifle on the roof. Unlikely to see it in the tech tree, but it'd make a good premium if Venezuela isn't added as a sub-tree for another nation.

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The SpPz 2 Luchs is long overdue in my opinion. However, it is not a vehicle for Tier 3. Most of what I said in the suggestion thread to the Luchs still stands (see below). And I think the placement and success of the Type 87 RCV at BR 8.3 validate what I said to some extent. The Luchs is a vehicle for BR 8.0 / 8.3, depending on the variant (key factor mostly being ammo types and thermals). This is presuming that it is properly implemented, i.e. it goes full speed in both directions, has switchable 2 to 4 axle steering, is amphibious (depending on the version) and ideally very very quiet. Those features would offset the sub-par 20 mm cannon quite nicely. What we do not need in the German tech tree is another Leopard variant.

 

More on topic if I had to choose one of the suggestions, I'd pick the PT76B as it is already in the game and classified as BR5.3, which should fit nicely. I think the German tree can use a few more East German vehicles. I don't think we need another light tank there but I think the PT76B could be put in there if one would want to.

 

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On 29/05/2023 at 11:43, Laxyr said:

The SpPz 2 Luchs is long overdue in my opinion. However, it is not a vehicle for Tier 3. Most of what I said in the suggestion thread to the Luchs still stands (see below). And I think the placement and success of the Type 87 RCV at BR 8.3 validate what I said to some extent. The Luchs is a vehicle for BR 8.0 / 8.3, depending on the variant (key factor mostly being ammo types and thermals). This is presuming that it is properly implemented, i.e. it goes full speed in both directions, has switchable 2 to 4 axle steering, is amphibious (depending on the version) and ideally very very quiet. Those features would offset the sub-par 20 mm cannon quite nicely. What we do not need in the German tech tree is another Leopard variant.

 

More on topic if I had to choose one of the suggestions, I'd pick the PT76B as it is already in the game and classified as BR5.3, which should fit nicely. I think the German tree can use a few more East German vehicles. I don't think we need another light tank there but I think the PT76B could be put in there if one would want to.

 

 

8.0 seems really high for 66mm pen. Considering the new type 87 rcv is 7.3 with dm63 and stabilizer this should be 6.3 or 6.7. I would still like to have it without dm63 and just the normal ammo at 5.7

On 29/05/2023 at 09:45, DMYEugen said:

Here's a few more that I remembered/found (All with 20mm guns):

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APE. This one requires the gunner to expose themselves to fire the weapon.

Pt6qBlb.png

 

The TPz-1 Fuchs fitted with the same turret as above:

z9IrYDG.png

 

Fuchs KRK:

Fvh2lQ6.png

 

Two other 20mm equipped Fuchs variants with different turrets:

gw7W2fX.png

6BBe3KB.png

 

I don't actually know if this one is just a mockup or not but its the SPz AFP-3. Don't be fooled, into thinking that its a small boy, This thing is 7 meters long and is meant to transport at least 10 dismounts.

7ABl85p.png

 

Here's a super interesting Venezuelan Fuchs with an M40 recoilless rifle on the roof. Unlikely to see it in the tech tree, but it'd make a good premium if Venezuela isn't added as a sub-tree for another nation.

sUUxstg.png

 

 

Looks really cool too. Is that a fuchs? Heard germany has send some of them to ukraine. Maybe they will modifiy them too

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On 23/05/2023 at 01:25, Fizzy_Elf1 said:

actually with this upcoming patch gaijin has once again reverse on their no prototypes tanks into the game (Well they always allowed them, just as premiums) and is adding in a prototype to the game. i mean its russian so we dont have a clue if theyre truely reversing on their word or just more russian bias.

 

however that would mean we could get the vk1602 into the game. or even the prototype leopard 1. (that would be a nice 6.7 tank)

They didn't ? They said they can add prototypes ( ex : Vk 30.02(M), Radkampfwagen 90, AGS, T95, MARS 15, AMX-50...), just no paper/unfinished vehicles (though the line can be a bit blurry). The Object 435 was built and is at Kubinka, so there's nothing wrong with it

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On 29/05/2023 at 02:43, Laxyr said:

The Luchs is a vehicle for BR 8.0 / 8.3, depending on the variant (key factor mostly being ammo types and thermals).

Gonna have to say nah on that one, especially since Gaijin has expressed interest in making night battles toggleable, which would significantly lessen the necessity of thermals. Afaik, none of the Luchs variants have access to a stabilizer. Even with DM63 and thermals, they're just not going to play/perform differently from the Type 87 RCV (P) by any significant measure. If added, I expect to see the prototype and standard Luchs at 5.7 / 6.0 and the A1 and A2 versions at 7.0. (If you give the prototype or the standard Luchs DM63, they could also be raised to 7.0.)

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