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And here is a thought...for a milestone video I would love to form up a squad of P-47s  and see what carnage our little wolf-pack could cause in AB (or RB for that matter)! 

 

That's something I want to do! 32 .50 cals of FREEDOM!

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And here is a thought...for a milestone video I would love to form up a squad of P-47s  and see what carnage our little wolf-pack could cause in AB (or RB for that matter)! 

 

 

Murder and mayhem all around, gents.

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I have no clue with the "tech" side of things, as stated, "i'm old" lol....but many people use the music from the site below:

https://www.youtube.com/user/NoCopyrightSounds




Here's the one that made Krebs famous!  :Ps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7ZsBPK656s

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And here is a thought...for a milestone video I would love to form up a squad of P-47s  and see what carnage our little wolf-pack could cause in AB (or RB for that matter)! 

 

Thank you as always.  :salute:

 

 

That's something I want to do! 32 .50 cals of FREEDOM!

 

 

Murder and mayhem all around, gents.

 

I suppose I can speak for the lads when I say:

Count us in!!!

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It is quite amazing how little Youtube content there is for AB.

 

With regards to the Tempest Mk. V, eventually (I only unlocked the Typhoon Mk. Ib/Late last month), whilst the Mustang Mk. IA is a more uncertain prospect. I am nearing the possibility of a partnership, and since I am doing this as a hobby rather than for monetary intentions, I thought I would use any money I earn from this to purchase highly requested Premium Planes and review them. I do not intend to spend any money on War Thunder merely because it is a free-to-play game, and I am quite happy to grind away and take things slowly.

 

I hope my response has not disappointed you.  :)s

 

I'd be very interested to see how you fly those planes, as those 3 happen to be my favorite planes in the game.  I think you'll find the Typhoon mk 1b/L and the Tempest V to be every bit as versatile as the P-47, and in general much better fighters (particularly in the anti-bomber role, those cannons are fantastic).

The Mustang mk1a is my best plane by far, and is easily my favorite fighter overall.  It does everything air combat related very well, has excellent firepower, and has no real handling flaws.  It's fragile as hell though, just like the American versions, but that's easy enough to compensate for.  Overall I have a 4:1 k/d with it, and that's steadily improving.  Absolutely worth buying, you won't regret spending the coin.

The Tempest V is an absolute monster of a plane.  The Hispano mk V cannons are probably the most effective guns in the game.  They have a slightly faster fire rate than the M2 browning and have the hitting power of the standard British cannon, and the V carries 800 rounds.  And it can carry 500lb bombs.  Handling is mostly identical to the Tyhpoon except with an improved roll rate, and of course that fantastic top speed.  It can maintain roughly 600kmph in level flight at sea level without WEP, and fully kitted the top speed lists around 765 kmph with a climb slighty over 30 m/s. 

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Tempest V suffers from fairly bad turn rate, especially at high speeds, and an exceptionally fragile damage model.

 

Despite having 4x 20mms, it simply can't ever risk going head to head, as a single hit will reliably tear a wing off.

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Tempest V suffers from fairly bad turn rate, especially at high speeds, and an exceptionally fragile damage model.

 

Despite having 4x 20mms, it simply can't ever risk going head to head, as a single hit will reliably tear a wing off.

The turn rate can be compensated for by using full flaps in turns.  You burn lots of energy doing this, obviously, but that powerhouse of an engine gets you back up to speed pretty quickly. Or, if you are going too fast in a dive to turn, simply keep flying in a straight line.  Basically nothing with a prop, short of a few German planes, can catch it.

It is a fragile plane, yes, but you can use that speed to position yourself such that you never have to face a head-on if you're careful.  However, I usually still engage the head-on. I'll fire a long burst over 1km then pull a full flap, full rudder barrel roll.  Generally this keeps you out of harms way, and if you guessed well on the burst, the wall of lead the mk V Hispanos can throw out will score you the kill.  This is risky, though... it's generally better to use the Tempest as the free cover fighter in your formation, since it has the speed and firepower to quickly engage any tails and knock them out quickly.

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First off: Sorry for the lack of uploads this week ladies and gentlemen (so far), I have an update video coming within the next week or so outlining a number of developments, the crux of which I will re-post in this topic.

 

That's something I want to do! 32 .50 cals of FREEDOM!

 

:Ds

 

Murder and mayhem all around, gents.

 

I shall take that as a "count me in"!  :Ds

 

I have no clue with the "tech" side of things, as stated, "i'm old" lol....but many people use the music from the site below:

https://www.youtube.com/user/NoCopyrightSounds

 

Thank you for the recommendation nonetheless. I did not find any music from that channel that appealed to me, and so I spent a little time browsing the Youtube Audio Library. I managed to find a small "rock"-based piece which has a little bit more pace and will go with the new (well, upgraded!) intro I am implementing in my next upload. I have dropped the volume of the intro music quite a bit as well to make it less harmful to the ears.

 

I suppose I can speak for the lads when I say:

Count us in!!!

 

:Ds

 

I'd be very interested to see how you fly those planes, as those 3 happen to be my favorite planes in the game.  I think you'll find the Typhoon mk 1b/L and the Tempest V to be every bit as versatile as the P-47, and in general much better fighters (particularly in the anti-bomber role, those cannons are fantastic).

The Mustang mk1a is my best plane by far, and is easily my favorite fighter overall.  It does everything air combat related very well, has excellent firepower, and has no real handling flaws.  It's fragile as hell though, just like the American versions, but that's easy enough to compensate for.  Overall I have a 4:1 k/d with it, and that's steadily improving.  Absolutely worth buying, you won't regret spending the coin.

The Tempest V is an absolute monster of a plane.  The Hispano mk V cannons are probably the most effective guns in the game.  They have a slightly faster fire rate than the M2 browning and have the hitting power of the standard British cannon, and the V carries 800 rounds.  And it can carry 500lb bombs.  Handling is mostly identical to the Tyhpoon except with an improved roll rate, and of course that fantastic top speed.  It can maintain roughly 600kmph in level flight at sea level without WEP, and fully kitted the top speed lists around 765 kmph with a climb slighty over 30 m/s. 

 

Without giving away too much information, my initial impressions of the Typhoon Mk. Ib/Late are that it is exactly what I expected it to be: a nasty low-medium altitude fighter that loves to be put into a shallow dive. The only problem I am having with it is the fact that the cannons jam so quickly (even with Weapon Maintenance at 50), although I would assume the final cannon upgrade will mitigate this somewhat.

 

I will take your word on the Mustang Mk. IA, it does seem to be a very popular premium plane (alike the FW 190 D-13).

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but I did read somewhere that the Tempest Mk. V was the fastest prop-engine fighter to see service during the Second World War, being able to obtain a maximum speed of 755 km/h (I cannot remember the altitude).

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Without giving away too much information, my initial impressions of the Typhoon Mk. Ib/Late are that it is exactly what I expected it to be: a nasty low-medium altitude fighter that loves to be put into a shallow dive. The only problem I am having with it is the fact that the cannons jam so quickly (even with Weapon Maintenance at 50), although I would assume the final cannon upgrade will mitigate this somewhat.

 

I will take your word on the Mustang Mk. IA, it does seem to be a very popular premium plane (alike the FW 190 D-13).

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but I did read somewhere that the Tempest Mk. V was the fastest prop-engine fighter to see service during the Second World War, being able to obtain a maximum speed of 755 km/h (I cannot remember the altitude).

 

The Mustang Ia is stupid.  It's a much more agile P-51D with 4 hispanos of death on the front.  It barely suffers any performance issues and is more or less a straight upgrade over the P-51D, and it's pretty sad considering the P-51D had the better engine.  Hell, the P-51Ds we have in game are the ones pushing 1700 BHP, while the first P-51B/Cs, upgraded from the first P-51s (not P-51As) were pushing 1500.

 

But then again, the Mustangs relative to everything around them are all sorts of messed up.  Like, P-39s and P-63s shouldn't even be a threat to them from a performance standpoint, but they outclimb them and so forth.  For instance, here's a report on the tactical trials of the P-51 (Mustang Ia) versus the P-39D, P-40F, P-47B, and P-38F.  Link.  I especially like this part.

 

 

The subject aircraft is the best low altitude American fighter aircraft yet developed, and should be used as the criterion for comparison of subsequent types.

 

But, when the P-51B/C was put up against the F4U-1A running water injection (in other words, it likely had the P&W R-2800-8W engine standardized on the 1D), we run into stuff like this report here.

 

Makes you wonder why the F4U is below the P-51 when I can produce a document that basically says the F4U completely smashed the P-51B/C over the head with performance all the way up to 7000m except in the realms of top speed and diving speed.  Do note, one of those F4Us was specially-modified to have an increased water injection rate and should not be considered normal.

 

The point is more about inconsistency and to show off all the funsies of the P-51 though.  It was considered a fantastic damned plane.  I digress.  It's a very well rounded plane, and it's sad that it performs so much better than the very plane that replaced it.

 

As for the Typhoon:  My experience with the Typhoon is purely the 1B more than the late (so, lower tier), but it's pretty hilarious when you get all the guns on target.  The big thing is to fire in short bursts of half a second to 1 second, and only hold down the trigger if you need the kill now or have a good window.  I've found that I can use Hispanos even without the first +40% reliability upgrade, but you have to be really quick with your bursts.  The final upgrade will basically remove all jamming issues, it's +400% over stock if it's the same 1943 guns everyone else gets.  It's just, murder and mayhem.  I basically consider the Typhoon 1b and 1b/late to be what the P-47 could, and should, have been for America.

 

 

 

I shall take that as a "count me in"!  :Ds

 

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Update 02/04/2014:

  • Yak-1B review added.
  • New intro, and new recording method employed to try and boost the quality of both the 720p video, and the sound. The annoying "mic-boom" noise has been fixed.
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As stated under the new review..."thanks for the new intro", much easier on the ears lol. Odd really as i'm a "rock"-type drummer, but the original intro was just too much. Grumpy old age creeping in i guess.   :salute:

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As stated under the new review..."thanks for the new intro", much easier on the ears lol. Odd really as i'm a "rock"-type drummer, but the original intro was just too much. Grumpy old age creeping in i guess.   :salute:

 

That is no problem. It might be indeed.  :salute:

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As stated under the new review..."thanks for the new intro", much easier on the ears lol. Odd really as i'm a "rock"-type drummer, but the original intro was just too much. Grumpy old age creeping in i guess.   :salute:

 

So what you're saying is, you don't like Command and Conquer :Os

 

 

Anyways, nice review on the 1B.  What's ironic, though, is it has more (practical) ammo than the A6Ms and Spitfires around it (namely the 2b and 5b, and the A6M2)

 

60 rounds per gun is pretty bad, and having a centrally nose-mounted gun with 120 ammo is far better than 2 with 60.

 

Either way, I have nothing to really add.  Nice flying as usual, but it saddens me to hear of 23 losses in a row, considering how bad AB is in this regard.  Seriously, AB has simply turned into bomber spam central, and it's maddening :(s

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Anyways, nice review on the 1B.  What's ironic, though, is it has more (practical) ammo than the A6Ms and Spitfires around it (namely the 2b and 5b, and the A6M2)

 

60 rounds per gun is pretty bad, and having a centrally nose-mounted gun with 120 ammo is far better than 2 with 60.

 

Either way, I have nothing to really add.  Nice flying as usual, but it saddens me to hear of 23 losses in a row, considering how bad AB is in this regard.  Seriously, AB has simply turned into bomber spam central, and it's maddening 

 

Thank you. I will agree with you on that point, although those two planes to me can make greater use of their ammo as they both play very well in the "turn-fighter" domain. Ergo, most of your engagements will usually end up being finished at close ranges (i.e. 0.3km or less), making the lower ammo count seem less of an issue. Still, each to their own as I always say. 

 

I never mind losing to be honest, although it would be nice to see a more Death-match orientated AB mode at some point in the near future, it would help mix up the daily grind.  :)s

 

Played the original C&C many moons ago. Don't remember that racket being in it!  :Ps

 

The original intro song was from C&C Red Alert 2: Yuri's Revenge. I believe it was the main intro theme: Drok. I was tempted to try and bring in the song Bigfoot from the original Red Alert!  :)s

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My favourite intro is/was RAMJB's - "transformers,arrival to Earth". I think it matches up beautifully with war thunder footage. I think Krebsy paid $30 US for his intro and outro. Wonder how much he got back from that due to advertising and huge interest in them from his subscribers?
I know you're not that interested in sub count or making money, i'm just chewing the fat, but i have no doubt that a good intro, whatever it may be, can pull in viewers for youtubers.
As has been said, you're one of the few making videos for and about AB, which is probably the biggest audience in this game. You need to draw those potential subscribers to you so....use some ABBA!    :lol: :good:

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Consider doing some Me 410 reviews; these planes are often overlooked in Arcade, and most of the players that do use them, don't use them correctly.

 

...although with 7 variants, it is a lot to do.

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Consider doing some Me 410 reviews; these planes are often overlooked in Arcade, and most of the players that do use them, don't use them correctly.

 

...although with 7 variants, it is a lot to do.

Yes, definitely this. Although there only really are 4 variants, with 2 of those being very similar. There isnt too much difference between the A-1 and B-1 series.

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I eventually decided to get me some premium airplanes around BR 3.3. I wanted to get some of iconic US airplanes (Corsair, T-Bolt...) without going into the US tree... Considering I fly German, Japanese and British airplanes, I got some reasonable options there.

 

Of course, I was partially influenced by tx's reviews and commentaries around. Special thanks to Cuteling for the 0.50 caliber info!

 

P-47D (German) is a beast. I actually enjoy, that it got no bombs/rockets, it helps me to keep focused on its fighter role. Climb rate is great and its armament is hilarious. M20 tracers are absolute killer ammo... In many cases one just needs to look angry on some enemy and it is instantly burning down of the sky. Airplanes are disintegrating under its fire.

 

F4U-1a is not far off, unfortunately it got no M20 death rays. But it still does great.

 

What however shocked me is their relative performance against the airplanes of its nation tree.

 

P-47D is completely outperforming my Bf 109 F(e) series. I cannot help it, but it is striking how little of time on the target I need with US planes and how long I have to pummel things with German native fighters. I noticed I stopped flying Bf 109 as long as P-47D is ready in my deck...

 

F4U-1a on the other side does about same well as Japanese Zeros with cannons, though it outperforms Ki-61 who have weaker armament.

 

I now, under the influence of M20 bullet, experiment with Tracer belts on the other 12.7mm guns with API-T ammo composition and Ki-61 suddenly murders things instead of just generating assists. I wonder how these belt perform on the Italian models...

 

Edit: Typos...

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I look into this part of the Forum too seldom, was better when it was in Arcade, this thread.. ;)s

 

A Wolf Pack? Sure, count me in!

 

Ouch.. 23 losses? That is bad.. But! If you do not cap in Dominations and do not take out Ground targets in Ground Strikes.. You cannot really blame anyone else.

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Sorry for the delay in replying to your posts.



Thank you, and thank you for subscribing.

I did originally consider a rating system, however, as mentioned in Renegade61's post, I am doing these videos as a guide to how I use each plane. I do not want to come across with a my way or the highway attitude, but rather provide an insight into a possible play-style for a given plane which you, or any other prospective viewer may currently enjoy, own, or wish to purchase in the near future.

To set the tone: I came to War Thunder from games such as Call of Duty and World of Tanks. I had never played any Flight-Sim (regardless of how realistic it is) prior to War Thunder, and so I had to learn the basics from day one. Everything I have learnt has been from my own personal reading and from simply playing the game, and so I want to try and reflect this in my content, hence the phrase I commonly state: What works for me may not work for you.

With regards to the intro, I will eventually try and put together a more enticing intro. I thought I would get to work on putting out my content first, and consider worry about the icing on the cake at a later date. In my next set of videos, I have cut the intro down even more, and changed the music to something with a faster pace. I am rather inexperienced with designing content in software such as Sony Vegas (I still make thumbnails using MS Paint!). If you have any suggestions, or want to put forward an intro (for free?), let me know.

I am glad to hear you enjoy the historical background. I thought I would add that in to balance out the videos a little bit, as I am a bit of a historical aficionado myself, especially with regards to the Second World War.

Once again, thank you for the feedback, I will do my best to maintain and improve my content when and where I can! :)s



You hit the nail on the head there!

If you have any suggestions for more suitable intro music, please let me know, it is very difficult to find music which is non-copyrighted and easy to listen to.

Thank you for the feedback as always :)s



Thank you and thank you for subscribing.

It is quite amazing how little Youtube content there is for AB.

With regards to the Tempest Mk. V, eventually (I only unlocked the Typhoon Mk. Ib/Late last month), whilst the Mustang Mk. IA is a more uncertain prospect. I am nearing the possibility of a partnership, and since I am doing this as a hobby rather than for monetary intentions, I thought I would use any money I earn from this to purchase highly requested Premium Planes and review them. I do not intend to spend any money on War Thunder merely because it is a free-to-play game, and I am quite happy to grind away and take things slowly.

I hope my response has not disappointed you. :)s



Aye, Zemke's Wolfpack was the group that came to my mind!

I will be sure to check Robert's book out.

And here is a thought...for a milestone video I would love to form up a squad of P-47s and see what carnage our little wolf-pack could cause in AB (or RB for that matter)!

Thank you as always. :salute:

It's cool
I can somehow do fairly well with the Mustang MkIa but not the Tempest V
Would be glad if you can do a review and how to for that.

Basically I treat it like the Typhoons. Fast planes that can turnfight most planes aside from spitfires and zeroes with the capability to BnZ planes with ease
Could be my aim or luck.
And still wondering why does the tempest has no rockets
Oh and. I would gladly join the wolfpack
Considering the P-47Ds got a 3.0 BR in 1.39
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Update 06.04.2014:

 

- I have not yet uploaded another review, I have a large number of reviews ready to go, yet due to personal reasons (see here for a video or continue reading), the rate of uploads will have to slow for the next seven weeks.

- For those who do not already know, I am a university student, and I am currently in my final year. Ergo, with my final exams nearing, I need to dedicate myself to those for the time being. I apologize for this, but as this is a hobby of mine, I have to put it aside for now.

- What does this mean for reviews? I will try to get at one up per week where possible. However, it does also mean that in the time I get off to play War Thunder, I can get some more planes unlocked (I managed to unlock my D-12 tonight, and I almost have the F8F-1A).

- I am sorry once again, thank you for all your support so far, and I will try to reply to your comments/posts when I can.

 

My favourite intro is/was RAMJB's - "transformers,arrival to Earth". I think it matches up beautifully with war thunder footage. I think Krebsy paid $30 US for his intro and outro. Wonder how much he got back from that due to advertising and huge interest in them from his subscribers?
I know you're not that interested in sub count or making money, i'm just chewing the fat, but i have no doubt that a good intro, whatever it may be, can pull in viewers for youtubers.
As has been said, you're one of the few making videos for and about AB, which is probably the biggest audience in this game. You need to draw those potential subscribers to you so....use some ABBA!    :lol: :good:

 

ABBA!? Mamma Mia here we go again!  :lol:

 

Consider doing some Me 410 reviews; these planes are often overlooked in Arcade, and most of the players that do use them, don't use them correctly.

 

...although with 7 variants, it is a lot to do.

 

Will do, I have had a request to do one of the U4s, I do occasionally dabble with my Me410 A-1 from time to time.  :)s

 

I eventually decided to get me some premium airplanes around BR 3.3. I wanted to get some of iconic US airplanes (Corsair, T-Bolt...) without going into the US tree... Considering I fly German, Japanese and British airplanes, I got some reasonable options there.

 

Of course, I was partially influenced by tx's reviews and commentaries around. Special thanks to Cuteling for the 0.50 caliber info!

 

 

A good little set of reviews; I can just imagine: "From tx141's Ace in a Day Reviews comes: X1376's Premium Ace Reviews!".  :)s

 

If you ever did decide to put some video content out concerning the planes, I would happily support you!

 

I look into this part of the Forum too seldom, was better when it was in Arcade, this thread.. ;)s

 

A Wolf Pack? Sure, count me in!

 

Ouch.. 23 losses? That is bad.. But! If you do not cap in Dominations and do not take out Ground targets in Ground Strikes.. You cannot really blame anyone else.

 

Aye, although I can understand why it was moved into this section of the forum.

 

Roger that  :salute:

 

Very true, following these reviews I would be tempted to start investigating which AP rounds can take out tanks (etc.) if a guide of this type has not yet been made.

 

It's cool
I can somehow do fairly well with the Mustang MkIa but not the Tempest V
Would be glad if you can do a review and how to for that.

Basically I treat it like the Typhoons. Fast planes that can turnfight most planes aside from spitfires and zeroes with the capability to BnZ planes with ease
Could be my aim or luck.
And still wondering why does the tempest has no rockets
Oh and. I would gladly join the wolfpack
Considering the P-47Ds got a 3.0 BR in 1.39
This will be fun

 

Well, I have just started my grind for the Tempest, give it a couple of months.

 

Aye it will be  :salute:

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Update 08.04.2014:

 

- Ki-43-II Review added.

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Update 15.04.2014:

 

- With Patch 1.39 having been released today, and my exams drawing closer, I have decided to leave doing the reviews until the exams are over. As a result, there will be no more reviews until after the 19th of May.

- I apologize for this, what it does mean however is that in the time I have off, I can unlock some more planes and get to grips with the new patch.

- See you all online if not in a month's time, thank you for your continued support.

 

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