Aircraft/Loadouts Republic P-47N Thunderbolt

[Donger_of_Dongs 2,640]

                    The Republic P-47N Thunderbolt
 
The P-47N was the last type of Thunderbolt to be produced. It was designed as an escort fighter for B-29s in Japan. A new wing with two 190 litre fuel tanks to extend the range. This increased the range by 3200 kilometres and the squared off wingtips 
improved the roll rate. The P-47N entered production with the R-2800-77(C) engine, with a total of 1816 aircraft built.
The aircraft was basically a P-47M with stronger gear and slightly larger wings. http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/165329-p-47m-thunderbolt/

 

I have also found a source stating that the P-47Ns at Le Shima were fitted with 8 M3 Brownings.
 
There is a lot of info on the performance here http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/p-47/p-47n-88406.html

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"The XP-47N took to the air for the first time on July 22, 1944. Test comparisons were made with a P-47D-30-RE throughout the early portion of the evaluation period. Much to everyone’s surprise, the XP-47N, with its greater wingspan and higher weight actually proved to have better roll performance than the D model. At 250 mph TAS, the N attained a maximum roll rate just over 100 degrees/second. The P-47D-30-RE could manage but 85 degrees/second at the same speed. At higher speeds, the N widened the gap further. In mock combat with a P-47D-25-RE, the new fighter proved to be notably superior in every category of performance. In short, the XP-47 waxed the venerable D model regardless of who was piloting the older fighter. The new wing was part of this newfound dogfighting ability, however, the more powerful C series engine played a role too. The additional horsepower allowed the N to retain its energy better than the older Thunderbolt. Perhaps the greatest performance increase was in maximum speed. Though not as fast as the stunning P-47M, the heavier N was fully 40 mph faster than the P-47D-25-RE and could generate speeds 30 mph greater than its principal rival, the Mustang. Scorching along at 467 mph @ 32,000 ft., the N could not be caught by any fighter in regular service with any air force on earth with the single exception of its M model sibling. This combination of wing and engine had pushed the N model up to the top rank of the superlative prop driven fighters then in existence."

We can also expect M3s on the later N-25, which is still a WW2 aircraft :).

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxuAazwG-04

http://secure1.tagonline.com/~cradle/history/aircraft/p-47/8.html

http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/112416-data-sheet-p-47n-5/

 

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Specifications

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Engine Name: Pratt & Whitney R-2800-73

Number of Cylinders: 18 Cylinder

Supercharger: GE CH-5 Turbo-supercharger

 

Power Settings:  WEP

Take Off Power – 2,800 RPM, 54 in Manifold Pressure for 15.7 minutes WET (1.9 Gallons per minute)

Military Power – 2,800 RPM, 72 in HG, 2800HP, crit alt 32,000 feet for 12 minutes WET(2.5 Gallons per minute)

Normal Power – 2,600 RPM, 43.5 in HG, 2100 HP, crit alt 38,750 feet. Unlimited

Cruise Power – 2,250 RPM, 32 in HG

 

Propeller Data: Curtiss Electric Propeller (Curtiss 836) 

Diameter: 13' 0"DIA.

Blades: 4

 

 Basic Geometric Data:

Length: 36' 6”

Wingspan: 42' 6"

Height: 12' 8”

Wing Area (including Ailerons):  322.2 sq ft.

 

Weight: 

Empty Weight: 10,199.9 Pounds

Weight Oil: 40 Gallons. 

Water/Alcohol Injection: 30 Gallons

 

Weight Fuel: 550 Gallons=3300lbs(Internal), 990 Gallons=5940lbs(Internal + External). Fuel weighs about 6lbs per Gallon. 

Take Off Weight, full internal fuel and ammo: 16,400 pounds.

 

Stall Speed at max fuel and ammo weight with no power: 115 MPH.  Indicated

Stall Speed with Flaps and Gear Down: 100 MPH.  Indicated

 

Max Speed Chart: Military Power at 13,862 pounds.

Altitude (Feet)  -  Supercharger Stage  -  True Speed (MPH)

0  - None - 364 MPH

2,500 - None - 374 MPH

5,000 - None - 382 MPH

7,500 - None - 391 MPH

10,000 - None - 399 MPH

12,500 - None - 392 MPH

15,000 - None - 417 MPH

17,500 - None - 426 MPH

20,000 - None - 434 MPH

22,500 - None - 443 MPH

25,000 - None - 453 MPH

27,500 - None - 458 MPH

30,000 - None - 464 MPH

**32,000- None - 467 MPH**

 

Rate of Climb Chart:  Military Power at 13,862 pounds

Altitude ( Feet) - Rate of Climb (FPM) - Time to Alt (minutes)

0 - 3690 - 0

5,000 - 3600 - 1:24

10,000 - 3480 - 2:48

15,000 - 3270 - 4:18

20,000 - 2940 - 5:54

25,000 - 2550 - 7:42

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Variants

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P-47N-1-RE

The N-1-RE was the first production version of the P-47N. An increasing sophisticated control system automated many features of this aircraft, including some aspects of the water injection. 550 were built.

P-47N-5-RE

The second block of P-47Ns featured a variety of modifications. Five zero length rocket launch rails were placed under each wing. The aircraft was given tail warning radar (type AN/APS-13). An auto-pilot unit was fitted to help rest the pilot during long missions, which could include several hours of unopposed flying over the ocean. The type also gained a catapult attachment to allow it to be delivered to newly captured islands by aircraft-carriers. 550 were built.

P-47N-2-RE

This designation was used for N-1s retrofitted with rocket stubs.

P-47N-15-RE

The N-15-RE appeared in early 1945. This model used a new bomb rack (the S-1, replacing the B-10), a new gun sight (K-14) and arm rests on the pilot seat, again to reduce fatigue on long missions. However, a shortage of autopilot units meant that it was not fitted to the 200 N-20-REs.

P-47N-20-RE

Most of the changes made to the N-20-RE involved the fuel system. A backup fuel system was installed, in case the normal system failed or was damaged. It was also possible to carry a mixed load, with a fuel tank on one wing and a bomb on the other. 200 were built.

P-47N-25-RE

This was the final version of the Thunderbolt. 167 were produced at Farmingdale before production ended in October 1945. Most changes were minor, including a different style of cockpit floor, strengthened wings designed to resist rocket launches and an improved control system that reduced the complexity of juggling boost, throttle, propeller pitch and mixture controls.

 

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Thanks to woodman_victory and DSRT888 for a lot of information on the aircraft   :salute:

 
Some pictures

And if it gets added give it a good BR so it doesn't club lower tiers

Edited January 28, 2015 by Bomber_of_Bombs

[leroyonly 4,311]

open for discussion

[CherryBlossom 4,210]

Bring it in game. I'm sure a lot of American pilots would be happy to use it +1 :salute:

[Polaco97 1,353]

Yes please. I love P-47, definitely one of my favorite planes. And the N is known as "/Late" too.

[Boceto 3,666]

So much yes. I love the Thunderbolt and I really want more versions of it than just the P-47D.

[Jostansjo 4,138]

If right BR, yes please!

[Hopit 4,416]

imho

This should be added in the same patch/update as J2M raiden :D

[GeneraIKrizmuz 6,998]

Gib

[Spirit_of_Phils 29]

No thanks, Thunderbolt is a very unforgiving plane that needs patience a LOT of discipline and since most of the community(including myself) doesn't have patience for it,it will be another underrated tier 3 fighter.

[Donger_of_Dongs 2,640]

No thanks, Thunderbolt is a very unforgiving plane that needs patience a LOT of discipline and since most of the community(including myself) doesn't have patience for it,it will be another underrated tier 3 fighter.

wrong thunderbolt, also the P-47D is amazing if used right

Edited August 31, 2014 by Bomber_of_Bombs

[Wraith_Leader 2,959]

The Freedom is stronk in this plane.

[abacs21 15,681]

Wasn't this already confirmed by Lassar?

[Wraith_Leader 2,959]

wrong thunderbolt

by those test sheets it only climbs at 8 m/s though, so he might be right. 

[Donger_of_Dongs 2,640]

Wasn't this already confirmed by Lassar?

Nope, nothing about that in his thread

[Gradiu5 39]

I totally agree with this. Any concrete reason why it isn't on the updated Tech Tree list? It's a pretty iconic plane in this variant.

[abacs21 15,681]

Nope, nothing about that in his thread

Well, maybe it was just the M version then? I'm sure he confirmed some late P-47 variant that would be introduced later

[Retry 7,363]

No thanks, Thunderbolt is a very unforgiving plane that needs patience a LOT of discipline and since most of the community(including myself) doesn't have patience for it,it will be another underrated tier 3 fighter.

A T3 fighter?

 

If the Tbolt N ever gets anywhere close to low T4 I will quit the game!

[Donger_of_Dongs 2,640]

Well, maybe it was just the M version then? I'm sure he confirmed some late P-47 variant that would be introduced later

"I don't see any reason to make P-47M ASAP for now, you can see it in updated Tech tree as well. There is a list we want to be implemented in the first priority"

Although the P-47M isn't on the updated tech tree, but I've linked the P-47M topic in the OP anyway.

[Retry 7,363]

I totally agree with this. Any concrete reason why it isn't on the updated Tech Tree list? It's a pretty iconic plane in this variant.

The P-47D was the icon, not the N.  Chances are if anyone's heard anything about P-47 variants, it's going to be the ~1943 Ds, not the high tech and hardly used Ns or Ms.

 

I for one find it rather frusterating when everyone uses the word "icon" for just about every plane and every variant thereof, just because it might have been somewhat well known.

[abacs21 15,681]

"I don't see any reason to make P-47M ASAP for now, you can see it in updated Tech tree as well. There is a list we want to be implemented in the first priority"

Although the P-47M isn't on the updated tech tree, but I've linked the P-47M topic in the OP anyway.

Well, I'd say if the Tigercat turns out to be good and the F-82 will receive its correct FM, I can agree that the US doesn't really need any superprops for the near future.
Regardless, I'm supporting the idea of the P-47M/N, it'll spice up the US tree later on :salute:

Edited August 31, 2014 by abacs21

[BoBaH_u3_5A 4,119]

Differences between the D, M, and N

Some P-47N's were fitted with M3's aswell :3 

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/aviation/p-47n-thunderbolt-vs-f4u-4-corsair-superior-738-2.html

 

by those test sheets it only climbs at 8 m/s though, so he might be right. 

Edited August 31, 2014 by woodman_victory

[Donger_of_Dongs 2,640]

Differences between the D, M, and N

Some P-47N's were fitted with M3's aswell :3 

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/aviation/p-47n-thunderbolt-vs-f4u-4-corsair-superior-738-2.html

 

Thank you, added to OP

[AEMILIVS 325]

This will look good next to P 51H ! It should be added.

[Bronto70937 1,592]

This is a great, plane, made several Ace-in-a-days in the pacific

[Garfield_Pilot 1,596]

Yes, but not as long as we have the "BR by community performance" in place.
I suspect the N would have serious trouble against German late prop fighters - or as soon as it fights below 7000m.