Aircraft/Loadouts Beriev Be-6

[AngelEight 4,163]

The Beriev Be-6 was a late-'40s maritime patrol and recon aircraft produced from 1949 to 1957 by Soviet Beriev OKB.

 

 

Being a rather large twin engine aircraft, it was extremely slow, even for late 40's standards, at 257mp/h or 414km/h.

 

It also saw success in the PRC in the PLAMAF, or the Chinese Maritime Air Force, under the name Qing-6 with new engines.

 

 

General characteristics:

 

Length: 23.5m ( 77ft 1ft)

 

Wingspan: 33m ( 110ft )

 

Height: 7.64m ( 25ft 1 in )

 

Wing area: 120m² ( 1,292m² )

 

Empty weight: 18,827kg ( 41,506lbs )

 

Loaded weight: 23,456kg ( 51,711lbs )

 

Landing weight (Is this stuff really needed?):  20,928kg ( 46,138lbs )

 

Max. Takeoff weight: 29,000kg ( 64,000lbs )

 

Powerplant: 2 x Shvetsov ASh-73TK radial engines, 1,800 kW (2,400hp each )

 

Preformance:

 

Maximum speed: 414km/h (218kn, 257mp/h) at 1,800m (5,900ft). Other sources claim the speed to instead be 400km/h (247mp/h).

 

Cruising speed: 280 km/h (173mp/h) at 2,000m (6,600ft)
 

Landing speed: 147km/h (105kn, 91mp/h. This thing is slow...)

 

Range: 5,000km (2,700kn, 3,100mi)

 

Service ceiling: 6,100m (20,013ft)

 

Crew: 8

 

Armament:

 

Guns: Some versions carried 5 x NS-23s, while the tail was replaced with an MAD radar, meaning 4 x NS-23.

 

Ordanance:

 

Eight metric tonnes of ordanance ( ~8,800 lbs), including underwing pylons consisting of 250kg bombs (Most likely FAB-250).

 

or

 

2 x 1,000kg torpedoes

 

 

or

 

 

8 x AM-1000 Naval mines

 

 

Sources:

Wikipedia

Observer's World Aircraft Directory - William Green - L&K issue No.8. 1980

Aviastar.org

Edited January 6, 2015 by Kitakami_

[leroyonly 4,311]

open for discussion

[Gahlok12 457]

any pictures?

[Orlunu 6,863]

Wing area: 120m² ( 1,292m² )

 

Loaded weight: 23,456kg ( 51,711lbs )

 

Maximum speed: 414km/h (218kn, 257mp/h) at 1,800m (5,900ft)

 

Guns: 5 x 23mm Nudelman-Rihkter NR-23 cannons

Sounds friggin' hilarious.

 

I approve.  :good:

[swedeonthemoose 12,809]

[AngelEight 4,163]

Yep. ^

 

 

It's famous for it's use in the Chinese navy rather than the Soviet so maybe Chinese skins are a default on this thing like the SM.79B with a Romanian skin.

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

Well, it'd give the Soviets a floatplane, and I don't see anything OP about it (I mean yeah, it's well-armed defensively, but that's all it has going for it besides its ability to land on water in an emergency and simply taxi to safety), so why not?

[Menarrosto 2,629]

+1

[Heinkel280 641]

Very pretty flying boat, +1  :salute:

 

However I do have a couple requests..

1) Could you please add a poll as most players who read suggestion threads don't actually post in them, in my suggestion thread as of right now 72 people have answered the poll however, only a few of them have actually posted.

 

2) If it's not too much to ask could you post your sources? Just helps drastically increase credibility. :salute:

[Target1331 3,055]

Already suggested here:
http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/194954-beriev-be-6/?hl=be#82086=

BTW, the picture here and in the other thread are from 9886, a Chinese modification version called Qing-6 with turboprops instead of the standard radials. This is what a Beriev Be-6 usually looks like:

Best regards,

 

Phil

[AngelEight 4,163]

I didn't know it was already suggested, and I checked the suggestion list. Could we get a mod to merge the thread?

 

 

 

Also I can't post picture or even copy and paste onto the forums for some odd reason in posts, only on my profile, status updates, and sending PMs.

Edited January 3, 2015 by Kongou_

[Quirkless 91]

Edited January 3, 2015 by ThatCoolGuy

[Orlunu 6,863]

 

 

Inb4 it can fly pretty much fine in that state in game.

[AngelEight 4,163]

Updated info. I need more clearance on the 23mm guns though.

[Borotovas 4,500]

Another OP Soviet jet fighter plane. No Thanks!

And there is already a thread about this plane. Mods should merge these together.

[AngelEight 4,163]

This... This is neither a jet or a fighter... Unless you mean it might fight jets, which it could.

[Borotovas 4,500]

This... This is neither a jet or a fighter... Unless you mean it might fight jets, which it could.

It probably will be OP, like some of the rest of the Soviet tree.

[AngelEight 4,163]

I smell a Wehraboo. Honestly Soviet aircraft are just undertiered, which doesn't necessarily improve or hinder flight characteristics.

 

 

 

Also, notice I said explain why it should not be added. :learn:

Edited January 4, 2015 by Kongou_

[leroyonly 4,311]

It probably will be OP, like some of the rest of the Soviet tree.

either discuss it properly or don't, if you are against it give a explanation why and not just something like ''Another OP Soviet jet fighter plane'' even though it is not a jet, a fighter heck I would even doubt that it is a plane and not a boat.

[Red_Star12375 293]

It probably will be OP, like some of the rest of the Soviet tree.

 

Typical anti-USSR "ALL SOVIETS ARE OP" Troll

 

To comment on the actual suggestion:

 

It seems like a pretty nice and interesting plane. It might have some problems if it faces jets due to it's small speed but it would be still fun to fly especially once Naval forces make it to live.

Edited January 4, 2015 by Red_Star12375

[sabaton_ 3,821]

PBY catalina on steroids

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

PBY catalina on steroids

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

The only problem would be finding a place for it on the tech tree.  I'm gonna have to say it should be a premium at either rank 3 (for balance reasons, similar to the Cannonbusa on the Japanese tree) or rank 4 (historical tiering), because there's simply nowhere else where it fits for now unless the Soviets get a dedicated seaplane branch (which they could have, theoretically - there's enough planes for one all the way up to and including rank 5).

 

Hell, maybe that's what this thread should be: proposing a whole seaplane/floatplane branch (technically a Beriev branch, since pretty much all of their seaplanes/flying boats were made by them) for the Soviets, starting with either the Be-2 floatplane or MBR-2 flying boat and ending with the Be-10 jet-powered flying boat.  The Be-6 (and its later amphibious variant, the Be-12, would be somewhere towards the higher end of the tech tree).

 

The resulting branch looks a bit like this:

 

 

Oh, and to make up for their overall poor performance (up until the Be-10 at rank 5), all of them would have fairly low BRs for their tier (granted, low BRs for their tier is par for the course with the Soviet tree, some with good reason, others...not so much).

Edited January 4, 2015 by Z3r0_

[Borotovas 4,500]

Also, notice I said explain why it should not be added. :learn:

lol I was just joking. But it really looks like a jet plane because of that tube at the end of it.



It looks like the tube was for rocket assisted takeoffs like the La-7R. If it really had rockets, it should be tier 5.

Edited January 4, 2015 by Borotovas

[Target1331 3,055]

The tail stinger is a MAD: Magnetic Anomaly Detector... basically it is used to scan the earth's magnetic field and detect unusual variations that could be caused by submerged submarines.

 

It's missing a bit of it's end cap that's why it could look a bit like a rocket engine exhaust tube.

 

Best regards,

 

Phil

[Borotovas 4,500]

The tail stinger is a MAD: Magnetic Anomaly Detector... basically it is used to scan the earth's magnetic field and detect unusual variations that could be caused by submerged submarines.

 

It's missing a bit of it's end cap that's why it could look a bit like a rocket engine exhaust tube.

 

Best regards,

 

Phil

That sounds like an idea that could work in world war mode. The Be-6 could scan for submarines, and get rewarded points if it finds a submarine.

This might be what it looks like without the decay.

Edited January 4, 2015 by Borotovas