Tanks/Vehicles KV-122 for premium

[_PabloSniper_ 2,142]

I believe that would be a good suggestion for premium tank, between 5.7 and 6.0

 

edited image of KV+IS2 barrel

 

 

Developer: KB ChKZ 

Started in: 1944 
Year of manufacture of the first prototype: 1944 
Not commercially produced due to the presence in the BTV Red Army tanks IS-2.

Among the latest attempts to re-heavy tank KV is a project of the installation of a 122-mm guns. The idea was formalized design team under the direction of A.S.Shneydmana who offered not only to equip the tanks KV-85 tank gun system more powerful, but to equip it with an improved power plant. The project was approved in the spring of 1944 and a few months later implemented in the metal. Tank received provisional designation KV-122.

Improvements for this required minimum. Tank design remains fully serial KV-85 of 1943, except for the modernized towers and guns the engine. Housing tank is a rigid welded box with differentiated booking. The thickness of the sides and stern was 60 mm, the roof - 40 mm, bottom - 20 mm. Frontal casting body had a thickness of 75 mm. The layout of the body was a classic: the separation of management front, fighting compartment in the center and power pack at the rear. Instead, the engine-2K, differs from conventional B-2, increased power, was proposed in-2IS nominal capacity of 520 hp Despite a slight decrease in power density and dynamic qualities of this powerplant was more reliable. Transmission fully comply with the KV-85 included a multi-disk and the main friction clutches of dry friction, as well as a 10-speed gearbox.

Turret completely borrowed from the IS-2. While maintaining the streamlined shapes and former reservation (forehead - 100 mm, side and stern - 60 mm, the roof - 40 mm) in it, instead of guns D-5T, installed 122-mm gun D-25. This resulted in a change in the combat pack and the number of shots, but in terms of firepower increase was significant. Next to the gun mounted machine gun DT of 7.62 mm and another gun DT was in the aft tower installation. On the roof of the tower it was possible to install 12.7 mm DShK.

Chassis, applied to one side, consisted of the following elements:

- Six road wheels with internal shock absorbers and individual torsion suspension;

- Three support rollers with rubber tires;

- The front steering wheel;

- Rear wheel drive with a cast hub and two 16-teeth crowns;

- Track chain of 87-90 Shoe width 700 mm and 160 mm pitch, truck - cast, with two rectangular windows to the driving wheel.

Vision devices include telescopic sight TOD-6, periscope sight PT-6 and panorama commander of PT-1. The tank came with a radio station R-9 with the whip antenna. HF-122 crew consisted of five people: a driver, radio operator, commander, gunner and loader.

An interesting point was that to build new tanks would not have to - by a simple modification was powerfully drawn from KV-85 more powerful HF-122, but once again, and this was one of the main problems. In order to carry out the entire volume of completions tanks required to withdraw from the front and send to the manufacturer. At this waste precious time. In addition, since 1944, has been launched production of the JS-2 with the same weapons and better protected. Comparing these facts GABTU felt that the modernization of existing HF-85, of which there are not too many, it is impractical.Experienced tank KV-122 remained in single copy and his fate is unknown.

 

 

Sources: 
V.N.Shunkov "Red Army". AST \ Harvest. 2003 
M.Baryatinsky "Soviet tanks in battle." Jauza \ EKSMO. Moscow. 2007

http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/tanks/ussr/kv122.htm
 

 

 

 

 

 

KV-122 (D-25) Heavy Tank
Development on the basis of KV-13 heavy tank on a KV-85, and later evolved into the IS-1 heavy tank. After 100 and 122 mm artillery test, D-25T 122 mm cannon was selected as the new tank's main weapon, its powerful high-explosive German fortifications with good destructive. KV-122 began to replace the KV-85, eventually becoming mass production of IS-2 tanks.


KV-122 is a pilot tank chassis in KV1s's (actually KV-85) on the use of the IS 122's turret and cannon. KV chassis may be due to various defects, and eventually out of the KV IS series or series.As one of the technical verification of the transition, KV-122 and IS-2 still has a different style.
Beijing Branch of the design team in order to strengthen the KV-85 fire made many efforts in Du Huofu recommended Grabin of 100mmS-34 guns after the completion of KV-100, SKB-2 is still not satisfied. After attempts selected Petrov 122mmD-25Т tank gun. This is the last attempt to enhance the KV tank fire. On the KV-85 chassis fitted 122mmD-25 installed in ИС-2 tank turret. Completed in 1943, a car, but because of mobility, armor and many other issues has been prepared so that the performance is less than production of IS-122 and IS-2, although in principle this modification and without any problems, but the design was eventually rejected .
http://wiki.kongjun.com/doc-view-21722.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 9, 2015 by _PabloSniper_

[Smin1080p 60,443]

Open for discussion  :salute:

[RaffertyRocket 136]

idk, this was in world of tanks for a while and it was so rediculous even they had to nerf it to hell.

 

dont want to see it in wt -1

[Noob_100_Percent 133]

I thought you meant the KV-122 with the short barrel HE gun.

[_PabloSniper_ 2,142]

Open for discussion  :salute:

thanks again Smin  :Ds

 

idk, this was in world of tanks for a while and it was so rediculous even they had to nerf it to hell.

 

dont want to see it in wt -1

why ?

 

I thought you meant the KV-122 with the short barrel HE gun.

short barrel is KV-9

[RaffertyRocket 136]

I thought you meant the KV-122 with the short barrel HE gun.

 

nah he means a kv1 with a 122mm gun designed to take out panthers and tigers. Only one KV-122 was built and it never saw service. not to mention it would either be disgustingly OP or disgustingly over tiered.

[Hunter12396 3,520]

yeah, moar KVs plus 1

[RaffertyRocket 136]

Yakovdoom, on 08 Apr 2015 - 8:53 PM, said:

idk, this was in world of tanks for a while and it was so rediculous even they had to nerf it to hell.

 

dont want to see it in wt -1

why ?

 

idk, this was in world of tanks for a while and it was so rediculous even they had to nerf it to hell.

 

dont want to see it in wt -1

 

thats why

[_PabloSniper_ 2,142]

 

Yakovdoom, on 08 Apr 2015 - 8:53 PM, said:

why ?

 

idk, this was in world of tanks for a while and it was so rediculous even they had to nerf it to hell.

 

dont want to see it in wt -1

 

thats why

 

WOT is another game, completely different

Rejecting a suggestion based on another game is a very weak argument.

And he would not be OP here in the  WT, Tiger I H still could killing it easily.

and other, if it matches BR5.7, developers can block BR471B ammunition

allowing only BR471, which has a lower penetration.

Edited April 8, 2015 by _PabloSniper_

[mistomaxo 446]

this thing does not seem to have anything the second is2 doesnt, so its no gap-filler prototype. as an actually-constructed machine it is a quite fair candidate, but as it lacks uniqueness, should be low priority

[Z3r0_ 4,127]

idk, this was in world of tanks for a while and it was so rediculous even they had to nerf it to hell.

 

dont want to see it in wt -1

 

The KV-122 in WoT was actually buffed WAY beyond its historical performance parameters (the only reason it avoided being nerfed for so long was that SerB fought tooth and nail to either prevent or delay it, even though every other major dev over at WG wanted it nerfed by the time it finally happened), and it STILL outperforms them in some respects in that game.

 

The real KV-122 could manage maybe 3-4 rounds per minute tops for rate of fire (two-piece ammunition), and it had something like four degrees of gun depression at best, not to mention that it was weighed down even more by the weight of the IS-2 turret and gun (which made it less mobile).  To add insult to injury, supposedly in early testing it had problems where the gun's recoil would crack the turret ring.  These along with the availability of the IS-2 (and impending entry into service of the IS-3) are the primary reasons why the remaining KV-85s in service weren't converted into KV-122s.

 

So provided Gaijin sticks with its HISTORICAL characteristics, I'm fine with this being in the game.

Edited April 8, 2015 by Z3r0_

[mistomaxo 446]

The real KV-122 could manage maybe 3-4 rounds per minute tops for rate of fire (two-piece ammunition), and it had something like four degrees of gun depression at best, not to mention that it was weighed down even more by the weight of the IS-2 turret and gun (which made it less mobile).  To add insult to injury, supposedly in early testing it had problems where the gun's recoil would crack the turret ring. 

 

 

ha ha, would it be taking damage to its turret ring/horizontal aiming drive just by driving around, or just every time it fires?

[Z3r0_ 4,127]

ha ha, would it be taking damage to its turret ring/horizontal aiming drive just by driving around, or just every time it fires?

 

It was the recoil from firing the gun that cracked the turret ring, so it would be upon firing.

[AngelEight 4,163]

Nah.

[_PabloSniper_ 2,142]

The KV-122 in WoT was actually buffed WAY beyond its historical performance parameters (the only reason it avoided being nerfed for so long was that SerB fought tooth and nail to either prevent or delay it, even though every other major dev over at WG wanted it nerfed by the time it finally happened), and it STILL outperforms them in some respects in that game.

 

The real KV-122 could manage maybe 3-4 rounds per minute tops for rate of fire (two-piece ammunition), and it had something like four degrees of gun depression at best, not to mention that it was weighed down even more by the weight of the IS-2 turret and gun (which made it less mobile).  To add insult to injury, supposedly in early testing it had problems where the gun's recoil would crack the turret ring.  These along with the availability of the IS-2 (and impending entry into service of the IS-3) are the primary reasons why the remaining KV-85s in service weren't converted into KV-122s.

 

So provided Gaijin sticks with its HISTORICAL characteristics, I'm fine with this being in the game.

 

i agree

 

Nah.

 

is to late man, KV-122 is ready  :Ds

 

[Z3r0_ 4,127]

i agree

 

 

is to late man, KV-122 is ready  :Ds

 

 

Is this legit?

[_PabloSniper_ 2,142]

Is this legit?

one bad edition man, just to kidding

[Z3r0_ 4,127]

one bad edition man, just to kidding

 

Um...I know English isn't your first language and all, but you might want to fix that so that it sounds a little more coherent (what do you mean by "one bad edition" - I can guess what the second part is).

[_PabloSniper_ 2,142]

Um...I know English isn't your first language and all, but you might want to fix that so that it sounds a little more coherent (what do you mean by "one bad edition" - I can guess what the second part is).

sorry, I tried to say it was just my bad editing image  .

[Z3r0_ 4,127]

sorry, I tried to say it was just my bad editing image  .

 

Actually it's a pretty good edit if you ask me.  You had me confused for a bit, then I noticed the concrete around the gun barrel not being aligned properly.  Other than that, it's pretty good.

Edited April 9, 2015 by Z3r0_

[Kocyra 5,742]

KV-1 with IS-2 turret, WE have the KV-85, so why not this.

[CroVepar 4,514]

I'd rather have the KV-9 with the low-velocity gun as a premium (since they built 10 i think)

[SuperEtendard 1,509]

BR for this would be 5.7  at 5.3 we have the KV-85 and in 6.0 we have the regular IS-2

[_PabloSniper_ 2,142]

BR for this would be 5.7  at 5.3 we have the KV-85 and in 6.0 we have the regular IS-2

I think it's fair, and using only the first ammunition of IS-2.

The BR-471

And blocking the BR-471B

Edited April 9, 2015 by _PabloSniper_

[fdsdh1 1,290]

another Tiger 1 clubbing machine, I thought a normal IS2 was bad enough, this thing will probably be at a lower BR due to its hull