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Model: Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17 
Technical Description

  • MiG-17/17A: Day fighter
  • MiG-17P: Radar interceptor

Visual Aspects: 

 

MiG-17/-17A

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MiG-17P

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Short History: The MiG-17 project was initially known as MiG-15bis+45°. The type first saw combat in July 1953 when MiG-17's shot down a RB-50G flying through the Sea of Japan off the coast of Vladivostok. The MiG-17P used the RP-1 Izumrud radar that had already been used on the MiG-15 SP-5 prototype

 

Configuration: Fighter

 

Production Status

First flight

  • MiG-17: 13 January 1950
  • MiG-17P: Summer 1951

Introduction year

  • MiG-17: 1952
  • MiG-17P: Late 1953

Status: retired

Number built: ~ 8,000

 

Crew Data
Number of crew: 1
Roles of crew: Pilot

 

Engine Data

Manufacturer: Klimov
Name: VK-1 / VK-1A

Type: centrifugal compressor

Combustion chambers: 

Turbine stages: 

Diameter: 49 inches

Length: 102 inches

Mass flow: 110 lb/sec

Pressure ratio: 
Number of engines: 1

Injection: none

Fuel: T-1 kerosene

Dry weight: 1918 lb

 

Fuel Data
Fuel tanks (internal)

  • MiG-17/17A: 1435 liters
  • MiG-17P: 1480 liters 

Fuel tanks (drop tanks): 2 x 400 liters

Fuel consumption: 2.36 lb/lbf/hr

Power Data
Take Off / Military Power: 2700 kgf (26.5 kN) @ 11,560 RPM

Normal Power: 2400 kgf (23.5 kN) @ 11,200 RPM

Cruising Power: 2160 kgf (21.2 kN) @ 10,870 RPM

Idle Power: 75 kgf (0.7 kN) @ 2500 RPM

 

Engine limits
Take Off / Military Power (at or below 10km): 11560 RPM for 5 minutes

Take Off / Military Power (above 10km): 11560 RPM for 10 minutes

Normal Power: 11200 RPM for 60 minutes

Cruising Power: unlimited

Idle Power: 2500 RPM for 10 minutes


Basic Geometric Data
Length

 

  • MiG-17/17A: 11.26 m (36 ft 11½ in)
  • MiG-17P: 11.68 m (38 ft 3.875 in)

Wing span: 9.63 m (31 ft 7 in)
Wing area: 22.64 m² (243.3 ft²)
Height: 3.80 m (12 ft 5½ in)
Flap area:
Elevator area:
Rudder area: 
Aileron area:
 
Weight Data
Empty weight

  • MiG-17/17A: 3,798 kg (8,373 lb)
  • MiG-17P: 4,145 kg (9,158 lb)

Loaded weight

  • MiG-17/17A: 5,202 kg (11,468 lb)
  • MiG-17P: 5,550 kg (12,235 lb)

Maximum takeoff weight

  • MiG-17/17A: 5,202 kg (11,468 lb)
  • MiG-17P: 5,550 kg (12,235 lb)

General Performance Data
Maximum speed: 1114 km/hr (11560 RPM at 2000 m)

Mach limit (at SL): 0.938

Mach limit (1020 m to 2800 m): 1.0

Mach limit (3400 m to 15000 m): 1.03

Minimum speed:

Takeoff speed: 230 km/hr

Landing speed: 180 km/hr
Cruising speed: 
Service ceiling

 

  • MiG-17/17A: 14700 m
  • MiG-17P: 14500 m

Ferry range

  • MiG-17/17A: 700 km @ 5000 m w/o drop tanks
  • MiG-17P: 780 km @ 5000 m w/o drop tanks

 

Control Surfaces

Ailerons: Hydraulically boosted with BU-1U booster

Elevators: Conventional

Rudder: Conventional

Flaps: Hydraulically operated

Airbrakes: Hydraulically operated with a surface area of 0.522 m2


Max Speed Chart (MiG-17/-17A)

.. at SL                       1060 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 1100 meters         1103 km/hr (11560 RPM)
.. at 2000 meters         1114 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 3000 meters         1110 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 4000 meters         1103 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 5000 meters         1094 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 6000 meters         1085 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 7000 meters         1075 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 8000 meters         1064 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 9000 meters         1053 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 10000 meters       1042 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 11000 meters       1029 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 12000 meters       1022 km/hr (11560 RPM)

 

Max Speed Chart (MiG-17P)

.. at SL                       1060 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 5000 meters         1085 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 10000 meters       1033 km/hr (11560 RPM)

.. at 12000 meters       1006 km/hr (11560 RPM)

 
Time to altitude (MiG-17/-17A)

.. 1100 meters         21 seconds
.. 2000 meters         42 seconds

.. 3000 meters         1 minute 6 seconds

.. 4000 meters         1 minute 30 seconds

.. 5000 meters         2 minutes

.. 6000 meters         2 minutes 30 seconds

.. 7000 meters         3 minutes

.. 8000 meters         3 minutes 36 seconds

.. 9000 meters         4 minutes 18 seconds

.. 10000 meters       5 minutes 6 seconds

.. 11000 meters       6 minutes

.. 12000 meters       7 minutes 6 seconds

.. 13000 meters       8 minutes 36 seconds

.. 14000 meters       10 minutes 42 seconds

.. 16000 meters       14 minutes 36 seconds

 

Time to altitude (MiG-17P)

.. 5000 meters         2 minutes 30 seconds

.. 10000 meters       6 minutes 36 seconds


Armament

Guns: 
  • MiG-17/-17A : 1 x N-37 37mm cannon (40 rounds), 2 x NR-23 23mm cannons (80 rpg)
  • MiG-17P : 2 or 3 NR-23 23mm cannons (100 rpg)

Ammunition:
 
Notes
 
If anyone can help me translate the manual, it would be appreciated. I am trying to find information on the MiG-17 roll rates, virage times, etc.

 
Sources
 

1. САМОЛЕТ МиГ-17 ТЕХНИЧЕСКОЕ ОПИСАНИЕ КНИГА ЛЕТНЫЕ ХАРАКТЕРИСТИКИ САМОЛЕТА 1971 (PLANE MiG-17 DATASHEET BOOK FLIGHT CHARACTERISTICS AIRCRAFT 1971) [link is the Google Drive file]

2. MiG Aircraft since 1937 by Bill Gunston & Yefim Gordon

3. Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17: The Soviet Union's Jet Fighter of the Fifties by Yefim Gordon

4. OKB MiG: A History of the Design Bureau and its Aircraft by Piotr Butowksi with Jay Miller

 
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CokeSpray

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Open for discussion.  :salute:

The MiG 17 has been suggested before,but since the suggestion contains a lot of useful information,I'll leave it open. 

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Didn't Gaijin say that they wouldn't add aircraft with afterburners?

This means that only the first variant could be added, which would not be very different from the Mig-15s we already have ingame.

Because being overall faster with superior maneuverability overall at the cost of acceleration is not a virtually direct upgrade to its predecessor.

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I'd like to see this added so US can get the F4D Skyray and F-11 Tiger ;)

 

Both of those had afterburners and were supersonic

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Both of those had afterburners and were supersonic

The first F-11F flew without afterburner.

Since the afterburning version of the J65 was not ready, the first prototype flew on 30 July 1954 with a non-afterburning engine. In spite of this, the aircraft nearly reached Mach 1 in its maiden flight. The second prototype, equipped with the afterburning engine, became the second supersonic U.S. Navy aircraft, the first being the Douglas F4D Skyray. In April 1955, the aircraft received the new designation F11F-1 (F-11A after adoption of the unified Tri-Service naming system in 1962). Carrier trials started on 4 April 1956 when an F11F-1 Tiger landed on and launched from USS Forrestal.

Fun fact it's also the first jet to shoot itself down. Edited by Stryker232
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Mr. CEO said planes can go up to the '60s. 

 

Ill take your Mig17 and play my Thunder Chief :D

 

The devs do not want aircraft that were supersonic because of the game engine

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The devs do not want aircraft that were supersonic because of the game engine

And which one they are supposed to add if theyre going to 1960?

Almost all planes in 1960 were supersonic.

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And which one they are supposed to add if theyre going to 1960?

Almost all planes in 1960 were supersonic.

 

US

  • A2F Intruder
  • A3D Skywarrior
  • A4D Skyhawk
  • A-7 Crusader
  • F-84F
  • F-86H
  • F-86K
  • B-47 Stratojet
  • B-52 Stratofortress
  • FJ Fury
  • F9F Cougar
  • P6M SeaMaster

Germany

  • G.91
  • CL-13 Mk VI
  • F-84F
  • F-86K

USSR

  • MiG-17A
  • MiG-17P
  • Yak-25
  • M-4 / 3M bomber
  • Tu-16
  • Tu-95
  • Be-10
  • Be-12

UK

  • Sea Vixen
  • Javelin
  • Scimitar
  • Buccaneer
  • Victor
  • Vulcan
  • Valiant

Japan

  • F-86D
  • F-86F-40

As you can see, there is still a large amount of planes that can be added. This doesn't even include the French jets (Mysteres, etc.), the Chinese, or other nations

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US

  • A2F Intruder
  • A3D Skywarrior
  • A4D Skyhawk
  • A-7 Crusader
  • F-84F
  • F-86H
  • F-86K
  • B-47 Stratojet
  • B-52 Stratofortress
  • FJ Fury
  • F9F Cougar
  • P6M SeaMaster

Germany

  • G.91
  • CL-13 Mk VI
  • F-84F
  • F-86K

USSR

  • MiG-17A
  • MiG-17P
  • Yak-25
  • M-4 / 3M bomber
  • Tu-16
  • Tu-95
  • Be-10
  • Be-12

UK

  • Sea Vixen
  • Javelin
  • Scimitar
  • Buccaneer
  • Victor
  • Vulcan
  • Valiant

Japan

  • F-86D
  • F-86F-40

As you can see, there is still a large amount of planes that can be added. This doesn't even include the French jets (Mysteres, etc.), the Chinese, or other nations

 

True and other things is the one problem how does this game engine handle supersonic speeds? Because by this time bullets were all ready breaking the speed of sound.

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they're getting the yak-30

 

Would very much rather have the Yak-25 instead of the failed Yak-30 prototype

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