Tanks/Vehicles ASU-85

[bigbobthewhiteWT 1,433]

are its ammunitions much more advanced than the current 85mm armed vehicles?

 

yes, the D-48 antitank gun or the D-70 variant of it as we will have on the ASU-85, uses basically a 100x695x147R mm cartridge case of the D-10T gun, necked down to 85mm. It gives a muzzle velocity of 1040m/s for the APCBC round, and i think around 900 for the HEAT-FS.

 

compare that to the regular 85x629x112R mm cartridge, that gives 800m/s for APCBC round.

 

The round themselves are strictly identical to the one of the smaller 85mm ammo. The APCBC BR-367 (we have it on the T-44 in game), becoming BR-372 on this new cartridge, and the 3BK2M HEAT-FS becoming 3BK7M on the new cartridge.

 

I've asked a demarre equation penetration for the BR-372 based on the BR-367 value with have in the game, and i'll also have the answer for the penetration of 3BK7 heat round, we know already that the 3BK7M penetrates 300mm on average (enough to penetrate the Tiger 2 glacis at any range)....

 

-BR-372 will have some 220-230mm of penetration at 10m (to be confirmed)

-3BK7 "cheap" variant HEAT will have 220-260mm of penetration (to be confirmed soon as well)

-3BK7M normal copper liner HEAT will have 300mm of penetration (certain).

 

definitely a strong gun. Note that those HEAT rounds are also available to the standard 85mm guns on T-34-85 or T-44 but with the name 3BK2/3BK2M, and less velocity...

 

Note: no WW2 era AP rounds such as BR-365A APBCHE or BR-365K APHE are ever used in the D-48/70, only the BR-372 variant of the BR-367 post war (1947-53 not sure exactly) 85mm APCBC-HE. No APCR whatsoever are used, nor the WW2 era BR-365P nor the post war BR-367P. The earlier HEAT-FS (1952-55, not sure exactly) BK-367/BK-367M are also never mounted on the D-48/70 cartidge, only the 3BK7M/3BK7 variant of the 3BK2M/3BK2 (1961-62)

Edited August 27, 2015 by bigbobthewhiteWT

[NemesisActual 2,474]

Yes, I support :)

[leopard2boy 12]

+1

[bigbobthewhiteWT 1,433]

I've asked a demarre equation penetration for the BR-372 based on the BR-367 value with have in the game, and i'll also have the answer for the penetration of 3BK7 heat round, we know already that the 3BK7M penetrates 300mm on average (enough to penetrate the Tiger 2 glacis at any range)....

 

-BR-372 will have some 220-230mm of penetration at 10m (to be confirmed)

-3BK7 "cheap" variant HEAT will have 220-260mm of penetration (to be confirmed soon as well)

-3BK7M normal copper liner HEAT will have 300mm of penetration (certain).

 

So i got my confirmation of penetration

 

only 208mm at 10m, but it's only an estimation. It seems too low for me.

 

222mm of penetration for the cheaper variant of the HEAT round.
 

[mistomaxo 446]

this and the kanonenjagdpanzer should come at the same time, they remind me of each other

[MoldyThesaurus 680]

The more tanks the merrier!

[Ruthless95 1,177]

1960, no thank you

 

no more tanks past the cut off date, the situation is bad enough already

to make sure you are not confused gaijin made the cut off date 1970 for tanks. now you can be sure this thing has no problem getting in game if the date is problem. any other problems you can carve out?

Edited October 13, 2015 by Ruthless95

[MostaFox 5,190]

to make sure you are not confused gaijin made the cut off date 1970 for tanks. now you can be sure this thing has no problem getting in game if the date is problem. any other problems you can carve out?

was it too difficult to read the date I made that post or what?

2nd person, well done

[Ruthless95 1,177]

2nd person, well done

yawn... just sayin

[Lord_Waka 1,932]

2nd person, well done

When you posted this, the addition of 1965 tanks was already confirmed and so the ASU-85 was already in the timeframe.

So the peoples that correct you are far from being the most wrong here. 

[MostaFox 5,190]

When you posted this, the addition of 1965 tanks was already confirmed and so the ASU-85 was already in the timeframe.

So the peoples that correct you are far from being the most wrong here. 

it was confirmed in like August or July or something so give it a break

[Lord_Waka 1,932]

it was confirmed in like August or July or something so give it a break

August or July -> For the 70s, damn.

 

The 1965 tanks (So later than the ASU-85) were already confirmed months before May. 

[MostaFox 5,190]

August or July -> For the 70s, damn.
 
The 1965 tanks (So later than the ASU-85) were already confirmed months before May.

calm down

[Kazumi_ 6,575]

+1

does it have a rangefinder?

[CokeSpray 7,274]

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