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ZSU-23-4 "shilka"


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  1. 1. Would you like to see this in the game (with or without radar)

    • yes, now (with radar to be implemented)
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    • yes, but later (when radar can be implemented)
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    • yes, but later (no radar but released to match other vehicles)
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Keep in mind that despite the vehicles introduction date it was still facing aircraft from around 1950, and was built to counter the planes from around that time.

 

what one might think of as "the last word in pre 1965 SPAA" the ZSU-23-4 "shilka" would be an excellent endgame AA vehicle for the USSR.

please note that it is radar assisted and not radar guided (the computer does not do the aiming and target identification, that is all down to the gunner and commander).

 

stats are in the link

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/zsu_23_4_shilka.htm

Entered service 1962 Crew 4 men Dimensions and weight Weight 19 t Length (gun forward) ? Hull length 6.54 m Width 3.13 m Height (in combat order) 3.57 m Armament Main gun 4 x 23-mm Projectile weight 0.19 kg Maximum slant range 2 km Maximum firing range 2.5 km Rate of fire 3 400 rpm Elevation range - 5 to + 85 degrees Traverse range 360 degrees Ammunition load Main gun 2 000 rounds Mobility Engine V-5P1 diesel Engine power 280 hp Maximum road speed 50 km/h Range 450 km Maneuverability Gradient 60% Side slope 30% Vertical step 1.1 m Trench 2.8 m Fording 1 m

zsu_23_4_shilka.jpg

zsu_23_4_shilka_s3.jpgzsu_23_4_shilka_s5.jpg

 

those of you who have played the ARMA series should know full well just how brutally effective this SPAAG is.

 

On a personal note, the main reason I like this SPAAG is because when firing in long bursts it sounds similar to a sewing machine.

 

 

Since some people are getting confused between the original model and the post 1965 variants here is a list of all the Shilka variants after the original

 

 

   ZSU-23-4V, improved variant developed in 1969;

   ZSU-23-4V1, improved variant with new fire control system, developed in 1971;

   ZSU-23-4M1, has improved radar, developed in 1972;

   ZSU-23-4M2, was optimized for firing against ground targets during Afghanistan war. It has no radar and carried 3 000 rounds. This variant was developed in 1978;

   ZSU-23-4M3, fitted with friend-or-foe identification system, new fire control system, improved radar, laser rangefinder. This variant has a 74% chance of hitting air target, comparing with 30% of the baseline model. This variant was developed in 1978;

   ZSU-23-4M4, recent upgrade, fitted with two Igla surface-to-air missiles, new vision devices, improved radar, improved transmission. This variant was developed in 1999;

   Donets, Ukrainian improved variant, fitted with upgraded turret, armed with additional Strela-10Msurface-to-air missiles. This variant is mounted on the T-80U main battle tank chassis and has much higher level of protection;

   ZSU-23-4MP Biala, Polish upgrade with added Grom anti-aircraft missile and a number of  improvements.

I am also moving in information from the site in the link as some people do not seem to be bothered to use it

 

Thin armor of the ZSU-23-4 provides protection only against small arms fire and artillery shell splinters.

 Vehicle has a crew of four, including commander, gunner, radar operator and driver

The Shilka has a tracked chassis and uses many automotive components of the SU-85 self-propelled artillery system. Vehicle is powered by the V-6P1 diesel engine, developing 280 hp. Until 1970 it was fitted with the V-6P diesel. The ZSU-23-4 is also fitted with auxiliary power unit.

 Development of the ZSU-23-4 Shilka began in 1957. The first prototype was completed in 1960. After extensive trials it entered service with the Soviet Army in 1962. Production of the ZSU-23-4 commenced in 1964. It was a very successful design. The Shilka is currently in service with a number of countries worldwide.

The Shilka is fitted with target surveillance and tracking radar and simple fire control system. It's radar has a tracking range of 6 - 10 km, depending on target's altitude.

The ZSU-23-4 was involved in a number of military conflicts. It appeared that vehicle is extremely effective against ground targets (soft ones, obviously).

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Late 50s and 60s? Nope. 

 

Just one thing - "Leopard 1" from 1965 (not prototype, normal production).

 

Your argument is invalid, go away. C:

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Just one thing - "Leopard 1" from 1965 (not prototype, normal production).

 

Your argument is invalid, go away. C:

Gepard might also be allowed, an SPAAG from 1968, entered service in 1973.

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Then Radar Guided missiles :P

 

But we already have Gepard in WT (at II tier)  :crazy:

 

At first add radar guided turrets for B-29, then Gaijin can think about missiles  ;)s .

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these would only fit into the game if late 50's-60's jet are introduced =_=

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these would only fit into the game if late 50's-60's jet are introduced =_=

 

Air is capped to 1953, ground is held to a different date seeing as how the Leopard 1, M62, and T-62 will be added

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Air is capped to 1953, ground is held to a different date seeing as how the Leopard 1, M62, and T-62 will be added

ye but these things vs early 1950's jets ? i mean common

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ye but these things vs early 1950's jets ? i mean common

 

The only jets that should be doing ground attack is the F-84, Vampire, Venom, Canberra's, B-57's, and IL-28

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i think it is generally considered that radar-guided aa guns, as i beleive the shilka has, are a tad too advanced.

 

but if timelines keep creeping up, who knows what the future holds

 

the shilka is fairly famous, if it is ever considered acceptable to add, i doubt it will be ignored

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i think it is generally considered that radar-guided aa guns, as i beleive the shilka has, are a tad too advanced.

 

but if timelines keep creeping up, who knows what the future holds

 

the shilka is fairly famous, if it is ever considered acceptable to add, i doubt it will be ignored

Well the M42 Duster was, originally, Radar Guided (Radar Fire Control System to be exact), though this was done through a secondary vehicle.

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The only jets that should be doing ground attack is the F-84, Vampire, Venom, Canberra's, B-57's, and IL-28

these things vs a vampire ? yee i dont like the odds of that

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what one might think of as "the last word in pre 1965 SPAA" the ZSU-23-4 "shilka" would be an excellent endgame AA vehicle for the USSR.

 

stats are in the link

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/zsu_23_4_shilka.htm

Entered service 1962 Crew 4 men Dimensions and weight Weight 19 t Length (gun forward) ? Hull length 6.54 m Width 3.13 m Height (in combat order) 3.57 m Armament Main gun 4 x 23-mm Projectile weight 0.19 kg Maximum slant range 2 km Maximum firing range 2.5 km Rate of fire 3 400 rpm Elevation range - 5 to + 85 degrees Traverse range 360 degrees Ammunition load Main gun 2 000 rounds Mobility Engine V-5P1 diesel Engine power 280 hp Maximum road speed 50 km/h Range 450 km Maneuverability Gradient 60% Side slope 30% Vertical step 1.1 m Trench 2.8 m Fording 1 m

zsu_23_4_shilka.jpg

zsu_23_4_shilka_s3.jpgzsu_23_4_shilka_s5.jpg

 

those of you who have played the ARMA series should know full well just how brutally effective this SPAAG is.

 

Mind if I ask: What the f*** is wrong with you ? And don't answer: nothing, because I don't like to repeating myself. 

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