omnipotank 826 Report post Posted July 21, 2015 So I was reading some random descriptions today and found this hilarious bit of Gaijin propaganda. "A single-seat cantilever monoplane with a closed cockpit and retractable landing gear with a tail wheel. The first prototype flight took place on 21 June 1941. Only two of these fighters were built, with another rebuilt from the fourth I-185 prototype with the M-71 engine. The plane was powered by the 18-cylinder twin-row air-cooled Shvetsov M-82A radial engine with a rated output of 1,390 hp (maximum power in emergency mode – 1,600 hp). It had the three-blade variable-pitch AV-5-119 metal propeller. The fuel system included three fuel tanks: two in the central wing section and one in the fuselage. It used 4B-78 aviation fuel with an octane rating of no lower than 95. A single conduit in the bottom of the fuselage housed two oil coolers. The airplane possessed three 20 mm synchronized Shpitalny-Vladimirov ShVAK autocannons. Tests were carried out on the I-185/M-82A with an ammunition complement of 500, 510 and 520 shells. Four bomb racks were installed under the wing. They could carry four bombs of up to 100 kg or two of up to 250 kg. In addition, the design allowed the suspension of eight RS-82 rockets under the wing. The two I-185/М-82А prototypes underwent practical testing in combat operations on the Kalinin front in the winter of 1942, and earned glowing recommendations from front-line pilots. The I-185's first combat flight took place on 9 December 1942, and its last on 12 January 1943. The I-185/M-82A turned out to be a very reliable aircraft. Its engine didn't present any nasty surprises, and its maximum speed when it underwent state testing was only 15 km/h lower than that of the I-185/M-71. Its powerful armament also worked perfectly. Experts believed that this very plane could have been the prototype for a series of fighters. Nonetheless, the plane did not go into active service or series production" http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=I-185_(M-82) So notice this line right here . . . " Its engine didn't present any nasty surprises" . . . I know for a fact this plane was not produced because it was plagued with engine problems throughout its whole production. So why does gaijin hide the fact in that cheesy suspicious way? . . . It says the la-5 and yak-7 used a version of this engine with the various flaws fixed . . . BUT STILL!!! Why does it say it had no engine problems when it did! http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_polikarpov_I-185.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Technical Moderator Rapitor 10,702 Report post Posted July 21, 2015 It was not produced also because the engine was required on La-5, which was a proven airframe, why I-185 was good on paper but not more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphynx311@psn 124 Report post Posted July 21, 2015 If you had been looking at the I-185 (M-71) variant's description you would have noticed that they did indeed state that there were engine problems with that particular variant. I-185 (M-71) Following combat test results, production began on a new I-185 prototype in Novosibirsk, which, during its evacuation, was home to the N.N. Polikarpov design bureau and experimental plant. This prototype was intended to be a standard for series production. The designer corrected several flaws from the previous models in this aircraft, which is sometimes called the I-186, and combined its triple-cannon armament with the M-71 engine. The I-185/M-71 Series Standard took its maiden flight on 10 June 1942.The plane was powered by the 18-cylinder twin-row air-cooled Shvetsov M-71 radial engine with a rated output of 1,625 hp (maximum power in emergency mode – 2,000 hp). It had the three-blade variable-pitch AV-5-119 metal propeller. It used 2B-78, 3B-74 and B-95 aviation fuel with an octane rating of no less than 90. The M-71 engine hood's shape was altered and the plane's airframe made more aerodynamic. The I-185/M-71 Series Standard possessed three 20 mm synchronized Shpitalny-Vladimirov ShVAK cannons with 500-600 shells overall (tests were conducted with various amounts of ammunition). The central cannon had 250 shells, the left 140 shells, and the right 170 shells. The plane could carry up to 500 kg of bombs of various types (FAB-250, FAB-100, FAB-50, FAB-25) on four bomb racks mounted under the wing panels. As expected, the new I-185 possessed even better characteristics. In plant tests, it reached a speed of 680 km/h, but the new engine continued to fail. Only one I-185/M-71 Series Standard was built. The airplane was not put into service. N.N Polikarpov received a 1st degree Stalin Prize for creating the I-185/M-71 Series Standard in 1943. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fufubear 6,705 Report post Posted July 22, 2015 The m82 is the same engine on the la 5 through the la9. You're thinking of the m71 that engine had problems. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omnipotank 826 Report post Posted July 22, 2015 The m82 is the same engine on the la 5 through the la9. You're thinking of the m71 that engine had problems. then why is the i-185 . . . m71 at tier IV . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fufubear 6,705 Report post Posted July 22, 2015 then why is the i-185 . . . m71 at tier IV . . . Because if the m71 engine worked it would have output around 150 more hp. In wt there is no such thing as defects everything runs fine so the m71 can output its 2000 hp without trouble. So the i185m71 is flying how the soviets calculated it would fly which makes it pretty comparable to some late war props. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...