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T26E5 Assault Tank (Jumbo Pershing)


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  1. 1. Add in the T26E5?

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As it stands right now, we have a bit of a gap from the M4A3E2 76W Jumbo Sherman to the T32. One vehicle I would like to propose to go into this slot is the T26E5.

 

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After seeing how successful the M4A3E2 was in the field with units, the OCM board pushed forth a design of the T26 (Soon to be M26) to fulfill the same role with the M26 units. Unlike the Jumbo Sherman, the M26 version was to be made from the ground up as an Assault tank.

 

The original requirements put forth a 4.75 inch hull front at 46 degrees as well as an 8 inch turret front including the Gun shield/Mantlet.

 

On January 18th, 1945, the OCM board placed an order of 10 of the T26E3's to be redesigned to such requirements by replacing the forward armor and turret. By February 8th the order was accepted. The order was abridged on March 29th to have the following changed based on combat Intel.

 

Front hull casting to be increased to 6 inches at 47 degrees with lower frontal hull at 4 inches at 54 degrees. Frontal turret casting to be made at 7.5 inches at 10 degrees, 3.5 inches on the sides and 5 inches in the rear to protect the crew as well as acting as a balancing weight for the new requirement of the Gun Shield which was to be 11 inches in thickness. Based off captured designs of the Panther G, the gun shield was designed much akin to it to eliminate the shot trap in the design. The lower section of the Gun Shield was flat at 0 degrees but rounded off at the top. The shield rounded off to remain 11 inches in LoS thickness above the barrel but was 11 inches actual thickness below at a 0 degree angle. With these new changes in mind, the Board increased the order to 27 units.

 

The first pilot was finished and delivered to Aberdeen testing grounds in July of 1945 with the remaining 26 units finished by August. With the war over shortly after their completion, the units were placed into reserves for a possible conflict with the Soviet Union. After 1948, the units were re-purposed as test vehicles against new ammunition types including newer HEAT and HVAP shells due to their thick armor.

 

The units were used for testing up until 1956 and helped in designing the newer M47 and M48 vehicles.

 

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Specification Sheet

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More images below including the test report of weapon testing on the units.

 

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Information comes from the following sources.

 

DoD Report AD48311 May 1954

DoD Report AD389304 July 1964

Pershing: A History of a Medium Tank T20 Series by R. P. Hannicutt

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So, I guess you want to add it between M4A3E2 (76) and T32, am I right? The only question I have is whether this tank would be medium or heavy, following WT standards. Because for now all Assault Tanks are considered Heavy Tanks in WT standards.

 

Anyway, it would be nice to have something more in USA tech tree. I already spaded everything up to tier V. And playing exclusively on tier V becomes boring after some time.

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Would prefer to see the T26E4. 

sure... but without the Panther ammo welded onto it since that was a field mod... so maybe as a prem with it...

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Gib baby T32. /o/

 

 

sure... but without the Panther ammo welded onto it since that was a field mod... so maybe as a prem with it...

 

The only problem with that, the T26E4 without the field modifications would be too similar to the M26E1. :(

so yeah..

 

The T26E4 uses almost the same gun as the T32, but it doesn't have the armor(without the field modifications), so..

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sure... but without the Panther ammo welded onto it since that was a field mod... so maybe as a prem with it...

 

Well it would most likely be a prem since only 25 were made and as you stated rightly it was a field mod. 

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The only problem with that, the T26E4 without the field modifications would be too similar to the M26E1. :(

so yeah..

 

The T26E4 uses almost the same gun as the T32, but it doesn't have the armor(without the field modifications), so..

and? it'd be alighter armoured T32... so it could be on a lower BR... think about that...

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and? it'd be a lighter armoured T32... so it could be on a lower BR... think about that...

 

Of course, but with the current BR, where would it go? :3

 

If I remember, the current M26 Pershing is tier 4 on 6.7 BR, with the T32 on 7.0 in tier 5.

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nope Tier IV

 

Just checked, my apologies. xD

I was mistaking it for the M46.

 

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Onto the topic, this would be a good addition between the Jumbo Sherman and the T32. :D

It's like how the M4A3 and the M4a3E2 are side by side in the tech tree.

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The main reason why I chose the T26E5 is the fact that the US line needs more vehicles in the 6.7 range and the T26E5 fits perfectly at that BR before the T32.

 

It has the same gun as the M26, less mobility, great frontal armor, and would serve as a vehicle to act as a shock tank to absorb blows while giving the M26's a chance to flank. The T26E4 is not capable of doing this as all it has going for it is the gun which mind you would be the same rate of fire as the T32.  Unlike the M26E1, which used a different single piece cartridge which was easier to handle in the vehicle, the T26E4 will have all the same problems with the same armor as the M26. For that reason, it's basically putting in a worse off M26E1 due to the maximum of 4RPM vs 6RPM.

 

Since the game classifies Assault tanks as Heavies, it would basically be a Heavy for all intents and purposes.

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Well it would most likely be a prem since only 25 were made and as you stated rightly it was a field mod. 

T32 says hello!

 

Only 4 built in 1945

90-mm experimental gun

Never saw service

In game it sees Tiger E

 

New IS3 lol.

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New IS3 lol.

 

Uwot m8, sure the mantlet and upper gacis is thick, and hard to kill, especially hull down, but the IS-3 was in all means, impenetrable from the front back then.

 

But unlike the IS-3, the lower glacis on the T32 is not very hard to penetrate and the shot trap under the mantlet is much larger, while having a massive muzzle brake that can knock out the barrel if anyone shoots it.

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T32 says hello!

 

Only 4 built in 1945

90-mm experimental gun

Never saw service

In game it sees Tiger E

 

New IS3 lol.

You mean 1/10 games it sees a Tiger E unless someone pulls it out of their lineup after their 6.7 dies. Get a T32, and see how often it goes into 8.0/7.7 matches. Nearly every time, and it rarely is top dog unless you feel like getting a 7m 30 sec lockout each time you find out you're bottom bucket.

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.... No wonder it wasn't already in.  Never noticed it hadn't been suggested before.  +1 from me.

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T32 says hello!

 

Only 4 built in 1945

 

So they were actually built.

 

90-mm experimental gun

 

and it passed trials.

 

Never saw service

 

Hasn't stopped the German paper tanks being in-game.

 

In game it sees Tiger E

 

MUH GURMUN!

 

 

New IS3 lol

 

Not even close, but whatever floats your boat.

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Hasn't stopped the German paper tanks being in-game.

we never demanded the KWK 46 Tiger II and the Panther "we're even gonna use a false descrition ingame)))))" II... it was gaijin that falsely believed those Paper (KWK 46) and Fantasy (PantherII) tanks would balance out IS-4M and T-54s..

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+1.The KT spammers need to feel the pain.

we never demanded the KWK 46 Tiger II and the Panther "we're even gonna use a false descrition ingame)))))" II... it was gaijin that falsely believed those Paper (KWK 46) and Fantasy (PantherII) tanks would balance out IS-4M and T-54s..

Adding those POS instead of the M47 and  M48 was one of the stupidest decisions gaijin ever made.

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+1.The KT spammers need to feel the pain.

 

if they went through Tier I and II they already now the Pain... T-34 does say you somethign?

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I believe that the Super Pershing would fit better in the heavy line...

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I believe that the Super Pershing would fit better in the heavy line...

the Super Pershing would be a prem at best... IT WAS A FIELD MODIFICATION if you talk about the one iwth the additional panther armor

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