tanks/vehicles Experimentaleintwicklung Kampfpanzer Keiler (leo 2 EARLY, EARLY prototype)

[Rohrkrepiererer 1,393]

6 hours ago, Solid_Snake01 said:

Bad news is if the T-64 comes in the game you got to remember to use Sabot against it because HEAT is useless against composite armor.

 

I don't know bout you guys, but I will tell you how I play my Leopard A1A1. 

I load up 30 rnds of APDS, 5 rnds of HESH for lightly armored targets such as SPAAG and light tanks, and 5 rnds of HEATFS for things like IS4Ms and T10Ms if they are in a weird position where I know I can't pen with APDS.

This loadout is working out very well for me so far, I am considering to load up 20 or 25 rnds of APDS since 30 is a bit many but I don't know yet.

 

So in conclusion, I think if you play the Leo with that loadout, you are equipped to fight any opponent from the front and you are able to quickly dispatch of any SPAAGs that you encounter.

Let me know how you guys play the Leopard, I would be interested. o7

[Solid_Snake01 974]

Yeah in all honesty i recommend Gaijin to make a Rank 6 with high BR because in the Q&A they said when the T-64 comes they will add other nation tanks similar to its performance which i wish they was more specific what performance they are referring to is it Armor or firepower or both.

 

GF Rank 6 only for tanks because most of Rank 5 tanks can't do anything to tanks like the T-64 for example T-64 vs Tiger 2 105 or Panther 2.

[Rohrkrepiererer 1,393]

21 minutes ago, Solid_Snake01 said:

Yeah in all honesty i recommend Gaijin to make a Rank 6 with high BR because in the Q&A they said when the T-64 comes they will add other nation tanks similar to its performance which i wish they was more specific what performance they are referring to is it Armor or firepower or both.

 

GF Rank 6 only for tanks because most of Rank 5 tanks can't do anything to tanks like the T-64 for example T-64 vs Tiger 2 105 or Panther 2.

 

Most of the time, when they are talking about performance, they are referring to combat capability aka the overall value the tank has for a team when you put an average player into that specific tank. They have simulations for that sort of stuff. All in all I think the devsare mostly looking at firepower, armor and mobility, since those are the three main mechanics the game is representing to us...

[arczer25 5,202]

On 12.02.2017 at 7:08 AM, Solid_Snake01 said:

Bad news is if the T-64 comes in the game you got to remember to use Sabot against it because HEAT is useless against composite armor.

with protection equivalent of 130mm/68 degree you can forget even using Sabot (expect for Chieftain at mid/close ranges against unangled T-64), only thing that ATM can defeat it frontal armor somewhat reliably are 600mm+pen ATGM

[Rohrkrepiererer 1,393]

22 hours ago, arczer25 said:

with protection equivalent of 130mm/68 degree you can forget even using Sabot (expect for Chieftain at mid/close ranges against unangled T-64), only thing that ATM can defeat it frontal armor somewhat reliably are 600mm+pen ATGM

 

Also, I'd bet you, that Gaijin would come up with a vehicle for every nation that fits some sort of composite armor, if the T64 is added. It would have the most armor in the game, and arguably the best gun...

[Results45 2,200]

2 hours ago, Rohrkrepiererer said:

Also, I'd bet you, that Gaijin would come up with a vehicle for every nation that fits some sort of composite armor, if the T64 is added. It would have the most armor in the game, and arguably the best gun...

 

 

T-64 mod. 1961/1971 would be just about equivalent to the M60AX:

 

 

 

https://vk.com/doc-20674223_437179592?hash=6a7ec5ace9b1a3a945&dl=48ff2e98730e745c8d

 

IMO anything later (T-64A/64B/64BM/T-72/72A) would require things like MBT-70, Chieftain Mk.10, and AMX-32 

[WulfPack 1,693]

1 minute ago, Results45 said:

 

T-64 mod. 1961/1971 would be just about equivalent to the M60AX:

 

 

 

https://vk.com/doc-20674223_437179592?hash=6a7ec5ace9b1a3a945&dl=48ff2e98730e745c8d

 

IMO anything later (T-64A/64B/64BM/T-72/72A) would require things like MBT-70, Chieftain Mk.10, and AMX-32 

Do you mean the T-64 or T-64A?

[Rohrkrepiererer 1,393]

31 minutes ago, WulfPack said:

T-64 mod. 1961/1971 would be just about equivalent to the M60AX

 

Japanese? French? British?

[Nope 10,634]

2 hours ago, WulfPack said:

Do you mean the T-64 or T-64A?

 

And wouldn't the M60A3 be enough should FCS be implemented?

[WulfPack 1,693]

35 minutes ago, Nope said:

 

And wouldn't the M60A3 be enough should FCS be implemented?

I don't know how you could model in a FCS.

[Rohrkrepiererer 1,393]

52 minutes ago, WulfPack said:

I don't know how you could model in a FCS.

 

It would basically be like auto aim and dynamic lead/range... Very fun IRL. Not so much in a game. Except for maybe Steel Beasts Pro.

Edited February 14, 2017 by Rohrkrepiererer

[WulfPack 1,693]

13 minutes ago, Rohrkrepiererer said:

 

dynamic lead/range... 

Wouldn't laser range finders do that too?

[Rohrkrepiererer 1,393]

No, laser rangefinders only take range, but that instantly (speed of light and computing speed). The Chieftain has a laser rangefinder for example. The rangefinding mechanics are pretty rudamentary in WT. Laser rangefinders can also overheat.

 

FC systems basically do all the aiming work for you: range, lead and tracking. Modern FCS can ID the target and choose ammo accordingly, for example KE for tanks, HEAT for soft targets, and so on.

 

FC systems would basically make the game a point and click adventure...

Edited February 14, 2017 by Rohrkrepiererer

[Nope 10,634]

32 minutes ago, Rohrkrepiererer said:

No, laser rangefinders only take range, but that instantly (speed of light and computing speed). The Chieftain has a laser rangefinder for example. The rangefinding mechanics are pretty rudamentary in WT. Laser rangefinders can also overheat.

 

FC systems basically do all the aiming work for you: range, lead and tracking. Modern FCS can ID the target and choose ammo accordingly, for example KE for tanks, HEAT for soft targets, and so on.

 

FC systems would basically make the game a point and click adventure...

 

Some FCS don't do all the aiming work. Russian FCS in particular, as it only adjusts the reticule and gives out a mil value corresponding to how much lead would be required to hit the target based on the lazing. The gun at that point needs to be aimed manually. That has been one of the biggest weaknesses of Russian tanks during the Cold War.

[Rohrkrepiererer 1,393]

2 minutes ago, Nope said:

 

Some FCS don't do all the aiming work. Russian FCS in particular, as it only adjusts the reticule and gives out a mil value corresponding to how much lead would be required to hit the target based on the lazing. The gun at that point needs to be aimed manually. That has been one of the biggest weaknesses of Russian tanks during the Cold War.

 

But you catch my drift, FC systems would not make the game more fun to play...

[dotEXCEL 5,969]

 

well you could give the US this. and yes it existed

[Rohrkrepiererer 1,393]

14 minutes ago, dotEXCEL said:

 

well you could give the US this. and yes it existed

 

 

Japanese? French?

[dotEXCEL 5,969]

8 minutes ago, Rohrkrepiererer said:

 

Japanese? French?

For Japan Type 74 G, for France AMX 40 (because 25,5hp/ton)

Edited February 15, 2017 by dotEXCEL

[Rohrkrepiererer 1,393]

3 minutes ago, dotEXCEL said:

Type 74 G, AMX 40

Do you have any sources on armor, penetration and mobiliy? You need hard facts to implement a vehicle. Same applies to your M60 2000

[dotEXCEL 5,969]

6 minutes ago, Rohrkrepiererer said:

Do you have any sources on armor, penetration and mobiliy? You need hard facts to implement a vehicle. Same applies to your M60 2000

i have infos for the AMX40 and the M60-2000. but not the for the Type 74G (still in use today gets replaced by Type 10, and NO its not to new, considering that we get the Type 87 next Patch and that SPAAG is still in use by the JSDF as well). but this Suggenstion is about the Keiler. We should focus us on that o7

 

 

Edited February 15, 2017 by dotEXCEL

[Rohrkrepiererer 1,393]

6 minutes ago, dotEXCEL said:

i have infos for the AMX40 and the M60-2000. but not the for the Type 74G (still in use today gets replaced by Type 10, and NO its not to new, considering that we get the Type 87 next Patch and that SPAAG is still in use by the JSDF as well). but this Suggenstion is about the Keiler. We should focus us on that o7

 

Would you pls send me your Info about the M60 2000 and the AMX40? I'd like to take a look at them.

[dotEXCEL 5,969]

11 minutes ago, Rohrkrepiererer said:

 

Would you pls send me your Info about the M60 2000 and the AMX40? I'd like to take a look at them.

 

you will see them in my upcomming suggestions m8 but first i have to ask a mod if such things are even considered to be in the game. only because we see a t64 does not mean that we just can suggest for example Leo 2AV or other things. i first wanna make sure the Effort on making a suggestion isnt wasted

Edited February 15, 2017 by dotEXCEL

[Rohrkrepiererer 1,393]

1 minute ago, dotEXCEL said:

 

you will see them in my upcomming suggestions m8

 

Very kind of you.

 

[WulfPack 1,693]

57 minutes ago, dotEXCEL said:

 we get the Type 87 next Patch and that SPAAG is still in use by the JSDF as well)

 Nevermind.

Edited February 15, 2017 by WulfPack

[Rohrkrepiererer 1,393]

14 minutes ago, WulfPack said:

we get the Type 87 next Patch and that SPAAG is still in use by the JSDF as well)

That has absolutely nothing to do with top tier MBTs...

Besides, the Top tier SPAAGs have nothing to do with potential new top tier MBTs. Japan is lacking an SPAAG at rank V atm, and they are getting sth that fits...