Begleitpanzer 57 / German (1977)

[Ruslan_DR 686]

54 minutes ago, WulfPack said:

You said 200 RPM. I'm not sure if that's correct. Seems a bit high for something with a 4 round clip.

 

I don't know. It seems to have one hell of a feeding system.

 

hahaha. Oh, ****. He meant 4 CLIPS with 10 rounds EACH.

 

The mechanism picks out the ammo being used of 4 types it looks like, which means a 10 round clip for each kind of ammo, in 10 shot bursts.

 

[Ruslan_DR 686]

Now that i see the mechanism, the reload time looks to be really small, as the clips do not detach from the gun, but are instead loaded one at a time by feeding shells into the bottom, using a sort of 1-way latch. while loading 10 rounds may not seem particularily fast, remember these are only 50mm, not the heaviest shells, you could load them quickly. You're also loading only the clip you select, if we go by WT terms, so if you're using AP the loader only loads the AP clip.

 

What this ALSO means, is that unlike any normal clip feed mechanism, the loader can instantly reload it even if one or two rounds were only fired, so you always have 10.

Edited September 25, 2016 by Ruslan_DR
added clarification

[WulfPack 1,693]

1 hour ago, Ruslan_DR said:

Now that i see the mechanism, the reload time looks to be really small, as the clips do not detach from the gun, but are instead loaded one at a time by feeding shells into the bottom, using a sort of 1-way latch. while loading 10 rounds may not seem particularily fast, remember these are only 50mm, not the heaviest shells, you could load them quickly. You're also loading only the clip you select, if we go by WT terms, so if you're using AP the loader only loads the AP clip.

 

What this ALSO means, is that unlike any normal clip feed mechanism, the loader can instantly reload it even if one or two rounds were only fired, so you always have 10.

Does this have a loader or an auto-loader?

[Ruslan_DR 686]

1 hour ago, WulfPack said:

Does this have a loader or an auto-loader?

 

It appears to have an autoloader, i think, but is also an autocannon. however, shells need to be manually fed into the loader's clips.

[Ruslan_DR 686]

I'm gonna be honest, as satisfying as all the new tanks are, making us lose less even though only 10% of people have them so far and the rest are grinding, but i could really still use a light to fight others. Honestly? this would be the last tank i want, at least until someone trips the balance, you know, again.

 

Other than that, it's pretty good.

[WulfPack 1,693]

10 minutes ago, Ruslan_DR said:

at least until someone trips the balance, you know, again.

Knowing when proper balance as been achieved, can be a difficult thing.

[alexport007 420]

Sounds fun. It would be like a German ZSU-57. Time for the Russians to reap the rewards of their mass-murder of M60s and Leos with the ZSU-57

 

[WulfPack 1,693]

6 minutes ago, SgtSully said:

Sounds fun. It would be like a German ZSU-57. Time for the Russians to reap the rewards of their mass-murder of M60s and Leos with the ZSU-57

 

We could always get ZSUs with faster firing 57s:)

[Ruslan_DR 686]

2 minutes ago, WulfPack said:

We could always get ZSUs with faster firing 57s:)

 

TOW Missiles and hiding behind hills. You can run, but you cannot hide. c:

 

I WILL FIND YOU AND GIVE YOU A NEW HOLE IN THE REAR OF YOUR HULL TOVARISCH.

 

Also that bofors is really enticing. Being an AA gun in real life too means some defense from aircraft.

 

[KontaKT 1,824]

7 hours ago, Ruslan_DR said:

 

TOW Missiles and hiding behind hills. You can run, but you cannot hide. c:

 

I WILL FIND YOU AND GIVE YOU A NEW HOLE IN THE REAR OF YOUR HULL TOVARISCH.

 

Also that bofors is really enticing. Being an AA gun in real life too means some defense from aircraft.

 

 

With an awful RoF, we would need usable fuzes... :p

[TheJoker1432 1,974]

This is PERFECT

 

This is probably the best suggestion on this entire forum right now

 

I am stunned

[WulfPack 1,693]

14 hours ago, Ruslan_DR said:

Also that bofors is really enticing. Being an AA gun in real life too means some defense from aircraft.

Whether or not it would be effective at that, would depend on elevation limit and traverse/elevation rates.

 

7 hours ago, Fighter117 said:

 

With an awful RoF, we would need usable fuzes... :p

Something like 200RPM is pretty good. Did Bofors make those in the 70s?

Edited October 2, 2016 by WulfPack

[Nope 10,634]

14 hours ago, Ruslan_DR said:

Also that bofors is really enticing. Being an AA gun in real life too means some defense from aircraft.

 

3P ammunition can also be used as an AA round as well as an HE round and an APHE round.

[WulfPack 1,693]

I'm not sure if this gives any additional information. 

[pieve 3,578]

On 03/10/2016 at 11:59 AM, WulfPack said:

I'm not sure if this gives any additional information. 

 

 

 

 

 

this is to ILLUSTRATE information

Edited October 7, 2016 by pieve

[dctpbpenn@psn 720]

Looks like a light modern Panther derivative... Would certainly be great to have!

[TheJoker1432 1,974]

8 hours ago, *dctpbpenn said:

Looks like a light modern Panther derivative... Would certainly be great to have!

Its a lot thinner

[Nope 10,634]

9 hours ago, *dctpbpenn said:

Looks like a light modern Panther derivative... Would certainly be great to have!

 

It's actually a Marder IFV derivative. Looks pretty sweet though, except the turret which I kind of feel is in the uncanny valley. You know when you play an Elder Scrolls or Bethesda Fallout RPG and interact with NPCs? Exactly, now you know how I feel.

[PantherAl 4,883]

On 2/10/2016 at 1:14 PM, Nope said:

 

3P ammunition can also be used as an AA round as well as an HE round and an APHE round.

 

I agree, 3P is amazing stuff... but I don't think it has the armour penetration performance of the Soviet 57 though.  Not far from, but not as good.

[Flak_Dancer 9,733]

Nice +1

[stefffff1871 2,448]

a really big +1

[blakeob 8,086]

Moved to further discussion. 

Edited October 31, 2016 by blakeob

[Firnen_ 8,253]

Shut up and take my money! (or time to grind^^)

 

I loved this tank in AW, so I want it here now as well.

Edited November 3, 2016 by xXDragonJacobXx

[Clockworkreaper 320]

+1 Please pass to dev team already!

[MoldyThesaurus 680]

Would make an interesting addition to the game.  It would definitely be effective against lightly armored vehicles and could defend itself from more armored vehicles.