tanks/vehicles 9P149 Shturm-S ATGM Carrier

[CptSlyPT 1,238]

there is also those soviet armoured cars (4*4) with a lot of missiles in a turret... i think its called BDRM or something

[CoMurey2 131]

21 hours ago, CptSlyPT said:

there is also those soviet armoured cars (4*4) with a lot of missiles in a turret... i think its called BDRM or something

it has been suggested too.

[kev2go 5,112]

compared to how lacking the bmp is compared to the It1 i, not really enthusiastic about agtm carriers with paper armor that is weak enough to be penned by HMGs like the 50 cal. ( then again its really just a Armored taxi cab for troops than a proper armorred fighting vehicle) 

 

itls reall be nothing more than a meme vehicle like the bmp. bmp is the po2 of tier end tier ground forces.

Edited November 11, 2017 by kev2go

[captinjoehenry 278]

Looks good to me.  It would be nice to have a rank 6 ATGM vehicle for the USSR.

[kev2go 5,112]

28 minutes ago, captinjoehenry said:

Looks good to me.  It would be nice to have a rank 6 ATGM vehicle for the USSR.

 

tier doesnt matter though. B.r does. 

 

Tier 6  and yet its  its worse than the It1 in protection ( HMG like 50 cal. or DSHK will  pen it)  and amount of AGTMs it can carry ( 12 vs 15) . If anything its with a b.r of 7.3-  like the bmp 1 due to paper armor ( except with more AGTMS)  

 

 

Edited November 11, 2017 by kev2go

[CoMurey2 131]

I think Soviet really needs another ATGM platform to be introduced to the game. Soviet depended on them heavily in their strategies...

 

I hope to see one soon.

21 hours ago, kev2go said:

 

tier doesnt matter though. B.r does. 

 

Tier 6  and yet its  its worse than the It1 in protection ( HMG like 50 cal. or DSHK will  pen it)  and amount of AGTMs it can carry ( 12 vs 15) . If anything its with a b.r of 7.3-  like the bmp 1 due to paper armor ( except with more AGTMS)  

 

 

Armour thickness is not everything! even if Shturm-S was put as rank 6 and of BR of 9.0 that will not matter! this vehicle has a specific role which is to sniper enemy vehicles from far away...

 

So, it must be played in cover all the time....

 

This vehicle relay on stealth and long distance engagements.

[WulfPack 1,693]

21 hours ago, kev2go said:

 

tier doesnt matter though. B.r does. 

 

Tier 6  and yet its  its worse than the It1 in protection ( HMG like 50 cal. or DSHK will  pen it)  and amount of AGTMs it can carry ( 12 vs 15) . If anything its with a b.r of 7.3-  like the bmp 1 due to paper armor ( except with more AGTMS)  

 

 

That is the problem with the IT-1 being in the game. Picking something that has usable armor means a prototype T-10 based project or a T-64 based project that never left the drawing board. 

Edited November 12, 2017 by WulfPack

[Laviduce 1,779]

34 minutes ago, WulfPack said:

That is the problem with the IT-1 being in the game. Picking something that has usable armor means a prototype T-10 based project or a T-64 based project that never left the drawing board. 

I thought there was another problems with the IT1 and other missile tank destroyers, the not implemented minimum engagement ranges.

[kev2go 5,112]

1 hour ago, CoMurey2 said:

I think Soviet really needs another ATGM platform to be introduced to the game. Soviet depended on them heavily in their strategies...

 

I hope to see one soon.

Armour thickness is not everything! even if Shturm-S was put as rank 6 and of BR of 9.0 that will not matter! this vehicle has a specific role which is to sniper enemy vehicles from far away...

 

So, it must be played in cover all the time....

 

This vehicle relay on stealth and long distance engagements.

 

yes it is... Armor  still matters Even in highe tier to a certain degree. Yes anything at 8.7 can pen IT1  but at least in IT1 does not need to worry about SPAA's , or  tank Machine guns like the DSHK or American 50 cal which can be able to penetrate and kill you.WHilst the Shturm drivers would have to keep that in mind.

 

IT1 can also be used as a sniper.....

Edited November 12, 2017 by kev2go

[kev2go 5,112]

1 hour ago, WulfPack said:

That is the problem with the IT-1 being in the game. Picking something that has usable armor means a prototype T-10 based project or a T-64 based project that never left the drawing board. 

 

I suppose There is no choice then.  for dedicated agtm vehicle,

 

However  There still exisist the T62M as a option. Can fire Both standard shells, and Agtm's. and Presto you have service tank that isnt a T10 or T64 paper project. AS cherry on top the Applique armor raises the protection levels of the covered Areas to comparable levels of the T64A.

 

BDD on UFP combined with standard steel armor raised Protection levels agianst KE to 320mm and 450mm against HEAt.

 

Turret areas protected By BDD BROW gives protection of 380mm against KE, and 450mm agianst heat.

 

Edited November 12, 2017 by kev2go

[Retry 7,363]

2 minutes ago, kev2go said:

 

yes it is... Armor matters Even in highe tier. At least to not worry about SPAA, or tank Machine guns liek the DSHK or American 50 cal to be able to epentrate and kill you.

 

IT1 can also be used as a sniper.....

He didn't say armor doesn't matter in high tier, he said armor isn't everything, which is true.

 

The Shturm S's missile would have good penetration and easily be the fastest ATGM in the game. (~2x faster than the IT-1's ATGM).  A guided warhead covering 2 kilometers in 5 seconds is nothing to sneeze at.

 

BR 7.3 is far too low for this weapons carrier.

[CoMurey2 131]

On 11/12/2017 at 6:43 PM, kev2go said:

 

yes it is... Armor  still matters Even in highe tier to a certain degree. Yes anything at 8.7 can pen IT1  but at least in IT1 does not need to worry about SPAA's , or  tank Machine guns like the DSHK or American 50 cal which can be able to penetrate and kill you.WHilst the Shturm drivers would have to keep that in mind.

 

IT1 can also be used as a sniper.....

I agree with you, but this vehicle is way better than the IT-1 in armament in all aspects!!!

 

1- Higher penetration capability.

2- Faster velocity Missiles.

3- Longer range of engagements (up to 7km compared to 3km for IT-1).

4- Faster reloading speed (8 RPM, the 3-4 RPM is not correct! I have seen the reloading mechanic in action and its unbelievably fast!).

5- better maneuverability over all terrain (way better than the IT-1).

I can keep on going.....

 

So, do you see the advantages of this vehicle, Shturm-S in the right hands will devastate opponent team...

 

I still really want it to be added. it will add a lot to the game. I can live with virtually no armor...

 

Edited November 18, 2017 by CoMurey2

[WulfPack 1,693]

57 minutes ago, CoMurey2 said:

 

4- Faster reloading speed (8 RPM, the 3-4 RPM is not correct! I have seen the reloading mechanic in action and its unbelievably fast!).

KBM's own site states 3-4 RPM.

"The CV launch rate is up to 3-4 missiles per minute."

https://www.kbm.ru/en/production/ptrk/531.html

[CokeSpray 7,274]

Suggestion passed to the developers for consideration.

[leroyonly 4,311]

As the 9P149 Shturm-S has been previously implemented,

 

Moved to Implemented Suggestions.