Key planes not in Game

[Earthwalkers 1]

Having Played War thunder for a while now I am surprised that there are 3 very important aircraft that aren't featured in game but others like the higher tier jets (Japanese and German like the ME 262 U1 H4) the and aircraft which played minor roles in World War 2.

 

These Aircraft are.

 

1. The Westland Whirlwind: This twin engined British fighter was well received by the pilots who flew it despite being in service for only 2 years many saying it was a waist of a good aircraft similarly what happened with the Bristol Brigand. This aircraft would make a good lower tier counterpart to the likes of the bf110 and a couple of the Japanese ones. It's surprising for a game that features of all things the Supermarine Attacker and the Kikka that never actually fought any battles that this isn't in the game. If in game it would be able to be used as a fighter bomber as well which was it's main purpose.   

  

 

2. Another British aircraft this time one of the forgotten bombers, The Handley Page Hampden Bomber: Also known as 'the flying pencil' this would also make a good lower tier aircraft in the attack aircraft or bomber groups seeing as it was used very early on in the war. This like the Whitley bore the brunt of early bombing over europe sadly it was unsuited as a bomber and was withdrawn from active service in 1942. Having this in the game would be quite fun and unusual.  

 

3. The Dornier Do 24: This surprised me that this wasn't in game: This floatplane was used by both sides during the war and used for a long time afterwards. The only German Floatplane is the BV 238 which only flew once. This could be used like the PYB Catalina seeing as they were used for bombing and anti submarine duties. Also it would work well with the odd and crazy roundels in the game.

 

[Dan_RAFBC 1,201]

There are still many British aircraft I want to see (just a few below):

Handley Page Hampden

Handley Page Halifax (other variants)

Avro Lancaster (other variants)

Avro Lincoln

Avro Shackleton

Fairey Battle

Fairey Barracuda

Fairey Albacore

Fairey Swordfish (other variants)

Supermarine Seafire (other variants)

Gloster Meteor Mk1

English Electric Canberra (other variants)

Avro Manchester

 

Lend Lease:

Lockheed Ventura

Consolidates Liberator

Boeing Fortress

North American Mitchell

North American Mustang

 

[AnimeDreamBoi 3,076]

B-26 is long overdue. 

They put prototypes into the main tree, but all we have for the B-26 is a pretty rare A-26. 

Over 5,000 made after all. 

 

Ki-51 also a fairly numerous aircraft for Japan that we don't see. 

[Sarin 2,329]

1 hour ago, Eden_Earhart said:

B-26 is long overdue. 

They put prototypes into the main tree, but all we have for the B-26 is a pretty rare A-26. 

Over 5,000 made after all. 

 

Ki-51 also a fairly numerous aircraft for Japan that we don't see. 

 

It's actually a common error, A-26 and B-26 were different planes. The confusion comes from the fact that after war, B-26 was retired and A-26 was redesignated B-26. And frankly, game needs both.

 

In addition to what was already written here...

The game is badly missing Italian aircraft. Re.2005, G.55, M.C.205...

US are missing P-51H, P-40 variants. 

British need Hornet, lend-lease aircraft like P-40 or B-17 that made significant impact on early war.

[fufubear 6,705]

D4y and b6n.  The main dive and torpedo bombers of the IJN are missing.

 

Honorable mention to the ki 48 and Ki 51 seeing that they served the IJA for the entire war.

[furiosinge 2,453]

Key planes not in game: italian ones XD

[thedab 737]

the 1943 bf109G-6,the one we got ingame is a mid 44 plane with mw-50,and we missing the 43 G-4

 

and any of the 1943 Spitfires

Edited January 10, 2017 by thedab

[alexmcguiness 436]

On 7 December 2016 at 2:13 PM, Sarin said:

US are missing P-51H

 

I'm under the impression that the H would be completely imbalanced in the current game. If so, gib Brits the Spiteful, and actually stop the Sea Fury from running at "peace-time settings".

[RohmMohc 11,494]

23 minutes ago, alexmcguiness said:

 

I'm under the impression that the H would be completely imbalanced in the current game. If so, gib Brits the Spiteful, and actually stop the Sea Fury from running at "peace-time settings".

yes and put them all to 6.7 and above...

[Yikus_Maximus 963]

G3M Rikko. That thing was a key plane and sank Prince of Wales and Repulse.

[Fallenkezef 5,183]

Bomber Mosquito.

 

I want to deliver cookies at high speed

[Been_Benuane 717]

To cut and paste from my other thread: 

 

 

• P-40B, P-40C, P-40K, P-40K
• P-38F
• P-43, P-47D-15
• There's a "P-51(e)" in the game but the tree projected both a P-51B & P-51C. And a P-51H and F-82B
• P-61B
• F-84C
• F3F-1
• F4U-4c
• F7F-2
• F8F-2
• B-24J, PB4Y-2
• PBJ-1
• AJ-1 Savage.
• Bf 109C, Bf 109K-14
• FW 190A-3, FW 190G-3
• Ju 88G, Ju 88P-1, Ju 88P-4, Ju 188A-1, Ju 188E-2
• Bf 110G
• Do 17M, Do 17Z-10, Do 215B-5
• He 177A-5
• FW 200C-3, FW 200C-4
• Ju 86
• Ju 287
• Me 262B-1a, Me 262HGII
• Hurricane Mk.IIC
• Blenheim Mk.IF, Blenheim Mk.IVF
• Mosquito F.Mk.II, Mosquito B.Mk.IV
• Whirlwind Mk.I
• Welkin F.Mk.I
• Hornet F.3
• Fulmar Mk.II
• Barracuda Mk.II
• Seafire Mk.IB, Seafire Mk.IIB
• Sea Fury F.Mk.X
• Sea Hawk F.1
• Manchester Mk.I
• Ki-44-II ko
• Ki-61-KAI Ko, Ki-61-KAI Otsu
• Ki-102 Ko
• Ki-108
• Ki-109
• Ki-21-II
• Ki-48-I, Ki-48-II
• Ki-32
• Ki-51
• A5M2 (not that I miss that)
• A6M5 hei
• D3A2 mod 22
• D4Y1, D4Y3
• G3M2
• G4M2, G4M3
• B6N2
• J1N1-s
• J5N1
• J8N1

[Shady_Oreo_147 163]

It is indeed weird that STILL there are a lot of historically relevant vehicles missing, especially if you compare them to the amount of prototypes in game. There's a lot of suggestions in here, if you support the addition of an aircraft you should vote for these ideas @thepastlivesinsi!

[Sirchby 3,711]

On 8/1/2017 at 3:55 AM, RohmMohc said:

yes and put them all to 6.7 and above...

 

Haha.

NEVER.

 

6.7 is only reserved for Jets.

 

Best mistake ever made by Gaijin ever.

 

A prop fighter will stop propelling due to excessive overtiering comprised of late jet fighters.

 

6.3, or no jets at all in 6.7.

[Saltzer 2,454]

1 minute ago, BravoBigBooms said:

6.7 is only reserved for Jets.

...said who exactly?

Tier V is jets, BR is not restricted.

[Sirchby 3,711]

Just now, Saltzer said:

...said who exactly?

Tier V is jets, BR is not restricted.

 

Said from Pulkzerstorer which is obliterating ground forces with 50 mm guns onboard from 6.7.

+Yak-17, even if it's performing not very good as a 6.7 jet fighter

 

If a 6.7 jet fighter like Yak-17 has enough trouble if uptiered to 7.7, then at what stake will the P-51H survive as a prop fighter with the same BR as Pulkzerstorer & Yak-17, or even higher as requested by someone irresponsible?

[Tantor57 10,319]

FW 190 A9 nearly 900 produced and 2000 HP at take off power is still not in the game to replace to atrocious A8 which should be downtiered to 4.7 but sits at 5.0 cause of overwhelming armament.

 

 

[RohmMohc 11,494]

22 minutes ago, BravoBigBooms said:

 

Haha.

NEVER.

 

6.7 is only reserved for Jets.

 

Best mistake ever made by Gaijin ever.

 

A prop fighter will stop propelling due to excessive overtiering comprised of late jet fighters.

 

6.3, or no jets at all in 6.7.

ooh scarred that your P-51 H and other Über-Super Props wouldnt club axis WWII Props?

[Saltzer 2,454]

15 minutes ago, BravoBigBooms said:

If a 6.7 jet fighter like Yak-17 has enough trouble if uptiered to 7.7, then at what stake will the P-51H survive as a prop fighter with the same BR as Pulkzerstorer & Yak-17, or even higher as requested by someone irresponsible?

I don't get where your argument is going? If the P-51H is good enough it can be at 6.7, if it is not performing good enough it would not be at 6.7 in the first place (BR compression not withstanding).

[RohmMohc 11,494]

1 minute ago, Saltzer said:

I don't get where your argument is going? If the P-51H is good enough it can be at 6.7, if it is not performing good enough it would not be at 6.7 in the first place (BR compression not withstanding).

pretty much this... with my first poste i was mostly refering to the fact that the P-51H and other such powerful Props would most likely club the living hell out of most Props in the 6.0 and below area

[Tantor57 10,319]

8 minutes ago, RohmMohc said:

pretty much this... with my first poste i was mostly refering to the fact that the P-51H and other such powerful Props would most likely club the living hell out of most Props in the 6.0 and below area

The only plane that could compete would be Ta 152H1 and FW 190 D13 with Jumos 213EB engine but would still get beaten in climb.

[Sirchby 3,711]

10 minutes ago, Saltzer said:

...said who exactly?

Tier V is jets, BR is not restricted.

 

Tier 5 is always jets, obviously.

 

But 6.7 is also jets currently, when you consider these:

 

I didn't say 6.7 is for Tier 5 only.

I say 6.7 is for jets only. For now.

 

 

Then here we have this:

 

 

 

Just now, RohmMohc said:

ooh scarred that your P-51 H and other Über-Super Props wouldnt club axis WWII Props?

 

Yeah, I'd rather do that every day.

Cant have American Air Supremacy without having to club German Air Parity. /s

 

My motion is simple:

"6.3, or no jets at all in 6.7."

 

6.7 should have been reserved for prop at its peak technology like:

P-51H + XF5U

I-250 + I-107

Me 209 + Fw 190 (Engine Upgrade)

Griffon Spitfires

Ki-94-II + Ki-64

 

But looking at current 6.7 opponents, the P-51H would not get in without the others coming in too.

 

My principle is "why the only prop when the others actually have comparable props instead of pushing jets at that BR?".

 

 

Putting in P-51H too early will end up as chaos.

[Cpt_Branko 9,698]

Hmmm

 

P-40C & P-39D (both relevant for early war US aviation, and also their lend lease versions as British and Soviet premiums respectively)

P-47C & P-51B (US 1943-44 aircraft, quite significant in the actual war)

 

FW-190A9 (definitive version of the Anton), Bf-109G6 / early (for 1943 events, without MW50).

 

MC.205 (most produced of the Serie V italian fighters), as well as G.55. Also the Regianne fighters (Re.2000, 2001, 2002 and 2005) would be interesting. Altogether this would give Italy a good representation.

 

Seafire Mk I, II, III to represent actual wartime Seafires.

 

[droppopWT 931]

I just want a B26

[GETREKT1 32]

Shackleton 

Westland Welkin 

Swift??? Not sure.