tanks/vehicles SU-152 "Taran" (Object 120)

[wynn45 31]

SU-152 "Taran" (СУ-152 "Таран") was a fully enclosed Soviet tank destroyer built in 1965, that never progressed past the experimental stage.

 

History

In the early 1960s the Soviet military concluded that the armor-piercing ammunition used by the T-54 and T-55 medium tanks, and the T-10 and T-10M heavy tanks was unable to penetrate the frontal armor of the newest American M60 and British Chieftain main battle tanks. The Soviets therefore began parallel research on several different anti-tank weapon systems: development of new APDS and shaped charge ammunition for existing tank guns, new rifled and smoothbore tank guns with a caliber of 115–130 mm and anti-tank missiles among others.

One of these projects became the SU-152 "Taran". The factory designation was Object 120 (Объект 120). In terms of firepower and mobility it surpassed all foreign tank destroyers. It was similar to the British FV 4005 Stage 2 that was developed in July 1955 and that was armed with a large 183 mm gun. The main reason SU-152 "Taran" wasn't adopted was the development of effective 125 mm smoothbore tank guns and anti-tank missiles.

Armament

The SU-152 "Taran" was armed with the 152.4 mm M-69 "Taran" rifled gun, with a barrel length of 9045 mm, fitted with a powerful muzzle brake. With an overall length of about 10 meters it is probably the longest gun of any type ever installed in a fully enclosed armoured fighting vehicle. The gun had a maximum direct fire range of 2050 meters. The SU-152 "Taran" carried 22 rounds of APDS and high-explosive ammunition. The gun had a semi-automatic breech block, with a rate of fire of 3–5 rounds/min. The high-explosive ammunition had a 43.5 kg shell and a maximum charge of 10.7 kg. Firing the 12.5 kg APDS shell with a maximum charge (10.7 kg), which gave it a muzzle velocity of 1720 m/s, the M-69 "Taran" had an armor penetration of 290 mm of RHA at 90° at a range of 2000 meters.^[1]

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SU-152_"Taran"}

^{http://weaponsas.narod.ru/Say_object120.htm}

 Опытная самоходная установка "Объект 120"

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Таран_(противотанковая_САУ)

Type	Tank destroyer
Place of origin	Soviet Union
Production history
Produced	1965
Number built	1
Specifications
Weight	27 metric tons
Length	6870 mm (hull)
Width	3120 mm
Height	2820 mm
Crew	4
Armour	30 mm (hull front, turret front)
Main armament	152.4 mm M-69 "Taran" rifled gun (9045 mm long barrel)
Engine	V-54-105 diesel engine 353 kW
Transmission	mechanical
Operational range	280 km
Speed	63.4 km/h

Classification	self-propelled anti-tank gun
Combat weight, t	27
The crew , man.	4
History
developer	OKB-3 , plant number 9
Manufacturer
Years of development	with 1957 on 1960
Years of production	1960
The number of issued, pcs.	1
dimensions
The length of the body , mm	6870
Housing width in mm	3120
Height mm	2820
booking
booking Type	protivosnaryadnym
Forehead body, mm / deg.	thirty
weaponry
The caliber and gun brand	152-mm M-69
type guns	anti-tank gun
The length of the barrel , calibers	59.5
Ammunition gun	22
BH angles, degrees.	-5 ... + 15
Angles GBV hail.	360
sights	TS-22
machine gun	1 × 14,5-mm
Mobility
Type of engine	B-105-B[show]
Engine power, L. from.	400
The speed on the highway, km / h	63.4
Cruising on the highway , km	280
Type of suspension	individual, torsion
Taran (anti ACS) at Wikimedia Commons

 

 

 

Edited January 25, 2017 by wynn45

[blakeob 8,086]

Open for discussion. 

It'd be better if you could summarise it in your own words. I've approved it, but only because you have shown other sources.

Edited January 22, 2017 by blakeob

[wynn45 31]

34 minutes ago, blakeob said:

Open for discussion. 

It'd be better if you could summarise it in your own words. I've approved it, but only because you have shown other sources.

thank you

 

[Kocyra 5,742]

Taran! Taran! Taran! Taran! Taran!

 

I want muh 9 metre long 152mm doom cannon

Edited January 23, 2017 by F7UCutlass

[King_CSS_Salty 783]

Sounds Nice, we already have Experimental Germany 6.7 Tanks anyway. +1 see no reason to not add it

[Conraire 5,722]

I'll give it a +1 but like I said in the other section, I'd prefer if they made it an event/tournament reward.  Wish we could find info on the gun properly converted to US penetration standards though.

[Duhchuy 72]

Bit of a glass cannon, but seems like a nice 7.3-7.7 tank destroyer.

[Kocyra 5,742]

So this thing has a 17 hp/t~ p/w, a 63.4km/h top speed and a 12s reload thanks to semi-auto loading mechanism, and it has been established it's penetration at 10 metres vs vertical is >450mm 

Does anyone know it's gun depression? and turret traverse speed?

Sadly taran did not have a stabilizer so it wouldn't be able to capitalize on it's good mobility as much

 

On 1/22/2017 at 6:28 PM, Conraire said:

I'll give it a +1 but like I said in the other section, I'd prefer if they made it an event/tournament reward.  Wish we could find info on the gun properly converted to US penetration standards though.

event/tournament would suck. This thing could be a better alternative to the IT-1 giving people a different top tier TD to play vs an ATGM (though I mainly want to actually be able to attain the taran should it be added)

Edited January 24, 2017 by F7UCutlass

[wynn45 31]

3 minutes ago, F7UCutlass said:

So this thing has a 17 hp/t~ p/w, a 63.4km/h top speed and a 12s reload thanks to semi-auto loading mechanism, and it has been established it's penetration at 10 metres vs vertical is >450mm 

Does anyone know it's gun depression? and turret traverse speed?

Sadly taran did not have a stabilizer so it wouldn't be able to capitalize on it's good mobility as much

I could not find any thing on the gun depression, or turret traverse speed.

5 rounds per minute is pretty good.

 

Edited January 24, 2017 by wynn45

[Kocyra 5,742]

23 minutes ago, wynn45 said:

I could not find any thing on the gun depression, or turret traverse speed.

5 rounds per minute is pretty good.

 

it varied 3-5 rpm but i'm assuming 5 rpm is with the ready ammunition, and 3 rpm was otherwise.

Though looking at the size of the cannon on the taran, It'd be safe to assume it has a huge breech to tote and that probably does not leave it very much depression, It'd guess your standard soviet -4 or -3 deg. depression.

It had an electric turret traverse, so I would think somewhere from 12 to 20 deg/s 

 

 

Edit: I found the vertical guidance, It was -5 to +15 deg.

 

Also, "The maximum rate of fire "Taran" reached 2 shots in 20 seconds "

Edited January 24, 2017 by F7UCutlass

[Mercedes4321 4,695]

6 minutes ago, F7UCutlass said:

it varied 3-5 rpm but i'm assuming 5 rpm is with the ready ammunition, and 3 rpm was otherwise.

Though looking at the size of the cannon on the taran, It'd be safe to assume it has a huge breech to tote and that probably does not leave it very much depression, It'd guess your standard soviet -4 or -3 deg. depression.

It had an electric turret traverse, so I would think somewhere from 12 to 20 deg/s 

 

 

Edit: I found the vertical guidance, It was -5 to +15 deg.

 

Also, "The maximum rate of fire "Taran" reached 2 shots in 20 seconds "

Source?

[Kocyra 5,742]

2 minutes ago, Mercedes4321 said:

Source?

The Russian wikipedia page for the taran XD

 https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Таран_(противотанковая_САУ)

It's got more than the english one

 

Also, Taran had TS-22 sight which had 3,5x and 7,0x which is the same as T-62.

Edited January 24, 2017 by F7UCutlass

[Jan_Gustl_WT 1,746]

i support this +1 Russia needs more stronk tenks i love the crying of the wehrabos

[GaYyJinn 459]

i want the ultimate auto troll cannon

Edited January 24, 2017 by SoD

[MrNoobTubes 6]

I always love me some stronk Russian vehicles 

[hom3er 154]

With 1'720m/s muzzle velocity this thing is a pretty much a point and click gun.

+1 ples gib

[CVB_Zuikaku 469]

Also gib ISU-152 ML-20S, ISU-152-2 BL-8, ISU-152 BL-10, ISU-152K, ISU-152M, Object 704, Object 268, and SU-152G.

 

And the SU-14 152, SU-14 203, SU-14-1 152, SU-14-1 203, S-51. Bias hammers. :3

[wynn45 31]

that would be nice but unlikely. 

[Jan_Gustl_WT 1,746]

4 minutes ago, wynn45 said:

that would be nice but unlikely. 

In the russian techtree is always a place for a new tank

[swpixy 1,220]

+1 from me for this thing,its an interresting vehicle with one hell of a boomstick.

[hom3er 154]

with the british getting the FV4005, it's only fair to give this to the soviets as a counter measurement

[Telamont 123]

No the Russians don't need anymore top tier super armor. 7.3 and up Russia is a xxxxx to deal with already.

[Kocyra 5,742]

1 minute ago, Telamont said:

No the Russians don't need anymore top tier super armor. 7.3 and up Russia is a xxxxx to deal with already.

This has 30mm of armor. 

The gun is not stabilized.

Average rate of fire would be 3-4 Rounds/Minute giving it a 20s-15s reload with an aced crew, which is good for a 152, but not enough to make it better than the T-62, IT-1 or T-10M.

[Z3r0_ 4,127]

This isn't the first time that this was suggested, but I suppose this would be alright for inclusion.  Its only real selling points are its monstrously powerful gun and pretty good mobility, but the armor (or lack thereof) would make it autocannon fodder for SPAAGs and aircraft, not to mention that pretty much everything it faces that DOESN'T have an autocannon will one-shot it regardless of where it gets hit thanks to the hull-break mechanic's implementation.

 

This is pretty much the epitome of a glass cannon.

[Kocyra 5,742]

10 minutes ago, Z3r0_ said:

This isn't the first time that this was suggested, but I suppose this would be alright for inclusion.  Its only real selling points are its monstrously powerful gun and pretty good mobility, but the armor (or lack thereof) would make it autocannon fodder for SPAAGs and aircraft, not to mention that pretty much everything it faces that DOESN'T have an autocannon will one-shot it regardless of where it gets hit thanks to the hull-break mechanic's implementation.

 

This is pretty much the epitome of a glass cannon.

Cannon would have around 400-415mm pen at 10 metres in-game (because gaijin doesn't convert penetration standards at top tier) and thus wouldn't be leaps and bounds better than the chieftain, Though it'd have MUCH higher velocity and hopefully Post-penetration damage. 

However, the 60 degree pen would be around 180-190mm 10 metres, which would be HEAT-FS level 60 degree pen.