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SU-152 "Taran" (СУ-152 "Таран") was a fully enclosed Soviet tank destroyer built in 1965, that never progressed past the experimental stage.

 


History

In the early 1960s the Soviet military concluded that the armor-piercing ammunition used by the T-54 and T-55 medium tanks, and the T-10 and T-10M heavy tanks was unable to penetrate the frontal armor of the newest American M60 and British Chieftain main battle tanks. The Soviets therefore began parallel research on several different anti-tank weapon systems: development of new APDS and shaped charge ammunition for existing tank guns, new rifled and smoothbore tank guns with a caliber of 115–130 mm and anti-tank missiles among others.

One of these projects became the SU-152 "Taran". The factory designation was Object 120 (Объект 120). In terms of firepower and mobility it surpassed all foreign tank destroyers. It was similar to the British FV 4005 Stage 2 that was developed in July 1955 and that was armed with a large 183 mm gun. The main reason SU-152 "Taran" wasn't adopted was the development of effective 125 mm smoothbore tank guns and anti-tank missiles.

Armament

The SU-152 "Taran" was armed with the 152.4 mm M-69 "Taran" rifled gun, with a barrel length of 9045 mm, fitted with a powerful muzzle brake. With an overall length of about 10 meters it is probably the longest gun of any type ever installed in a fully enclosed armoured fighting vehicle. The gun had a maximum direct fire range of 2050 meters. The SU-152 "Taran" carried 22 rounds of APDS and high-explosive ammunition. The gun had a semi-automatic breech block, with a rate of fire of 3–5 rounds/min. The high-explosive ammunition had a 43.5 kg shell and a maximum charge of 10.7 kg. Firing the 12.5 kg APDS shell with a maximum charge (10.7 kg), which gave it a muzzle velocity of 1720 m/s, the M-69 "Taran" had an armor penetration of 290 mm of RHA at 90° at a range of 2000 meters.[1]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SU-152_"Taran"

http://weaponsas.narod.ru/Say_object120.htm

 Опытная самоходная установка "Объект 120"

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Таран_(противотанковая_САУ)

Type Tank destroyer
Place of origin 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
Production history
Produced 1965
Number built 1
Specifications
Weight 27 metric tons
Length 6870 mm (hull)
Width 3120 mm
Height 2820 mm
Crew 4

Armour 30 mm (hull front, turret front)
Main
armament
152.4 mm M-69 "Taran" rifled gun
(9045 mm long barrel)
Engine V-54-105 diesel engine
353 kW
Transmission mechanical
Operational
range
280 km
Speed 63.4 km/h
Classification

self-propelled anti-tank gun

Combat weight, t

27

The crew , man.

4

History
developer

OKB-3 , plant number 9

Manufacturer

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

Years of development

with 1957 on 1960

Years of production

1960

The number of issued, pcs.

1

dimensions
The length of the body , mm

6870

Housing width in mm

3120

Height mm

2820

booking
booking Type

protivosnaryadnym

Forehead body, mm / deg.

thirty

weaponry
The caliber and gun brand

152-mm M-69

type guns

anti-tank gun

The length of the barrel , calibers

59.5

Ammunition gun

22

BH angles, degrees.

-5 ... + 15

Angles GBV hail.

360

sights

TS-22

machine gun

1 × 14,5-mm

Mobility
Type of engine
B-105-B[show]
Engine power, L. from.

400

The speed on the highway, km / h

63.4

Cruising on the highway , km

280

Type of suspension

individual, torsion

Logo Wikimedia Commons Taran (anti ACS) at Wikimedia Commons

 


 

 

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I'll give it a +1 but like I said in the other section, I'd prefer if they made it an event/tournament reward.  Wish we could find info on the gun properly converted to US penetration standards though.

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So this thing has a 17 hp/t~ p/w, a 63.4km/h top speed and a 12s reload thanks to semi-auto loading mechanism, and it has been established it's penetration at 10 metres vs vertical is >450mm 

Does anyone know it's gun depression? and turret traverse speed?

Sadly taran did not have a stabilizer so it wouldn't be able to capitalize on it's good mobility as much

 

On 1/22/2017 at 6:28 PM, Conraire said:

I'll give it a +1 but like I said in the other section, I'd prefer if they made it an event/tournament reward.  Wish we could find info on the gun properly converted to US penetration standards though.

event/tournament would suck. This thing could be a better alternative to the IT-1 giving people a different top tier TD to play vs an ATGM (though I mainly want to actually be able to attain the taran should it be added)

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3 minutes ago, F7UCutlass said:

So this thing has a 17 hp/t~ p/w, a 63.4km/h top speed and a 12s reload thanks to semi-auto loading mechanism, and it has been established it's penetration at 10 metres vs vertical is >450mm 

Does anyone know it's gun depression? and turret traverse speed?

Sadly taran did not have a stabilizer so it wouldn't be able to capitalize on it's good mobility as much

I could not find any thing on the gun depression, or turret traverse speed.

5 rounds per minute is pretty good.

 

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23 minutes ago, wynn45 said:

I could not find any thing on the gun depression, or turret traverse speed.

5 rounds per minute is pretty good.

 

it varied 3-5 rpm but i'm assuming 5 rpm is with the ready ammunition, and 3 rpm was otherwise.

Though looking at the size of the cannon on the taran, It'd be safe to assume it has a huge breech to tote and that probably does not leave it very much depression, It'd guess your standard soviet -4 or -3 deg. depression.

It had an electric turret traverse, so I would think somewhere from 12 to 20 deg/s 

 

 

Edit: I found the vertical guidance, It was -5 to +15 deg.

 

Also, "The maximum rate of fire "Taran" reached 2 shots in 20 seconds "

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6 minutes ago, F7UCutlass said:

it varied 3-5 rpm but i'm assuming 5 rpm is with the ready ammunition, and 3 rpm was otherwise.

Though looking at the size of the cannon on the taran, It'd be safe to assume it has a huge breech to tote and that probably does not leave it very much depression, It'd guess your standard soviet -4 or -3 deg. depression.

It had an electric turret traverse, so I would think somewhere from 12 to 20 deg/s 

 

 

Edit: I found the vertical guidance, It was -5 to +15 deg.

 

Also, "The maximum rate of fire "Taran" reached 2 shots in 20 seconds "

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2 minutes ago, Mercedes4321 said:

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The Russian wikipedia page for the taran XD

 https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Таран_(противотанковая_САУ)

It's got more than the english one

 

Also, Taran had TS-22 sight which had 3,5x and 7,0x which is the same as T-62.

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With 1'720m/s muzzle velocity this thing is a pretty much a point and click gun.

+1 ples gib:crazy:

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Also gib ISU-152 ML-20S, ISU-152-2 BL-8, ISU-152 BL-10, ISU-152K, ISU-152M, Object 704, Object 268, and SU-152G.

 

And the SU-14 152, SU-14 203, SU-14-1 152, SU-14-1 203, S-51. Bias hammers. :3

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4 minutes ago, wynn45 said:

that would be nice but unlikely. 

In the russian techtree is always a place for a new tank:popcorn:

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with the british getting the FV4005, it's only fair to give this to the soviets as a counter measurement

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1 minute ago, Telamont said:

No the Russians don't need anymore top tier super armor. 7.3 and up Russia is a xxxxx to deal with already.

This has 30mm of armor. 

The gun is not stabilized.


Average rate of fire would be 3-4 Rounds/Minute giving it a 20s-15s reload with an aced crew, which is good for a 152, but not enough to make it better than the T-62, IT-1 or T-10M.

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This isn't the first time that this was suggested, but I suppose this would be alright for inclusion.  Its only real selling points are its monstrously powerful gun and pretty good mobility, but the armor (or lack thereof) would make it autocannon fodder for SPAAGs and aircraft, not to mention that pretty much everything it faces that DOESN'T have an autocannon will one-shot it regardless of where it gets hit thanks to the hull-break mechanic's implementation.

 

This is pretty much the epitome of a glass cannon.

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10 minutes ago, Z3r0_ said:

This isn't the first time that this was suggested, but I suppose this would be alright for inclusion.  Its only real selling points are its monstrously powerful gun and pretty good mobility, but the armor (or lack thereof) would make it autocannon fodder for SPAAGs and aircraft, not to mention that pretty much everything it faces that DOESN'T have an autocannon will one-shot it regardless of where it gets hit thanks to the hull-break mechanic's implementation.

 

This is pretty much the epitome of a glass cannon.

Cannon would have around 400-415mm pen at 10 metres in-game (because gaijin doesn't convert penetration standards at top tier) and thus wouldn't be leaps and bounds better than the chieftain, Though it'd have MUCH higher velocity and hopefully Post-penetration damage. 

However, the 60 degree pen would be around 180-190mm 10 metres, which would be HEAT-FS level 60 degree pen.

 

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