bombs The biggest bombs in game.

[Pony51 6,572]

Table of the biggest high-explosive bombs in game for each country from least to biggest.

800Kg and bigger ( note the Japanese Type 99 Num 80 AP 800kg bomb is AP (armor piercing) type designed for attacking battleships, thus its very low explosive load).

The earliest unit to carry that bomb is listed.

Note: WT Wiki has a page that lists all the bombs which has some additional info and destruction table, but lacks others.  Here is old destruction table.  Info for bombs can be found here, with some digging.

Data taken from modification data card in game.

 

	Designation	explosive	Mass kg	TNT equiv explosive	% ratio	Max armor pen	Dest rad	Frag rad	1st Unit	Qty	Rank
Japan	Num 80 Mod 1 ground	TNT	800	390	49%	134mm	16m	173m	H6K4	2	1
	Type 99 Num 80 AP	TNT	800	30.1	4%	83mm	3m	45m	H6K4	2	1
Italy	GP 800	TNT	822	357	43%	129mm	15m	164m	BR.20	2	1
USA	AN-M66A2 (2000lb)	Amatol	907	535.6	59%	159mm	19m	200m	B-17E	2	3
Germany	SC1000 L2 "Hermann"	Fp. 60/40*	1000	600	60%	175mm	21m	207m	Ju87R	1	1
UK	H. C. 4000lb Mk.II	Amatol	1814	1339	74%	280mm	46m	251m	Wellington 1c	1	2
USSR	FAB-1000 (welded)	TNT	1020	485	48%	148mm	18m	196m	Il-4	1	2
	FAB-1500M-46	TNT	1400	675	48%	194mm	23m	212m	Tu-4	8	4
	FAB-3000M-46	TNT	2983	1400	47%	288mm	48m	260m	Tu-4	4	4
	FAB-5000	TGA-16	5080	5041.5	96%	350mm	105m	370m	Pe-8	1	3

 

*Fp. 60/40 is Amatol of 60 % TNT, 40 % Ammoniumnitrat

 

Added to Germany

SC1800 "Satan"

Fp. 60/40

1800

1000

56%

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[Pony51 6,572]

 

UK and USSR have the biggest bombs in game, at 1814kg and a whopping 5080kg respectively (USSR also has a 2983kg one too). 

Just for speculation, what other *non-nuclear*, high explosive , bombs are out there?

 

While I found USA, German, and more UK bombs, I did not spend much time look for Japan, Italy, and other USSR big ones.

Listed are all High Explosive types, except 2 that are semi-HE.  NOT included are AP or "earthquake" bombs like Tallboy and Grand slam.

 

I also included what aircraft could carry that bomb in game (names crossed out have since been added)

 

	Designation	explosive	Mass kg	kg explosive	% ratio	Max armor pen	Dest rad	Frag rad	1st Unit	Qty	Rank
Japan	?
Italy	?
USA	AN-M56 L.C. (4201lb)	Amatol	1906	1472	77%	?	?	?	B-17G	2	4
	AN-M56A2 L.C. (4535lb)	Amatol	2057	1594	77%	?	?	?	B-17G	2	4
	Pumpkin Bomb (10525lb)	Composit B	4774	2858	60%	?	?	?	B-29 SilverPlate	1	4
Germany	PC1400 "Fritz" ( APHE )	Fp. 60/40	1400	320	23%	?	?	?	He111H-6	2	2
	SC1800 "Satan"	Fp. 60/40	1800	1000	56%	?	?	?	He111H-6	1	2
	SC2500 "Stahlmax"	Fp. 60/40	2500	1700	68%	?	?	?	Do217K	1	4
UK	M.C. 4000lb ( semi-HE )	Amatol	1814	900 aprox	50%	?	?	?	Wellington	1	2
	H. C. 8000lb	Amatol	3629	1800 aprox	74%	?	?	?	Lancaster	1	4
	H. C. 12000lb	Amatol	5442	4017 aprox	74%	?	?	?	Lancaster	1	4
USSR	FAB-9000

Image comparing the UK High Capacity (HC) bombs, of which we games has the H.C. 4000lb Mk.2 (green square)

 

Here is the full German bomb lineup, green is what is in game, red and blue are possible additions (image updated with new SC1800).

 

 

US 4000lb (and others) in front of B-29 and lady for size (and beauty)

http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Boeing-B29/IMAGES/bombs-b29.jpg

 

 

Here is a PumpkinBomb (just) fitted inside a B-29 Silverplate.

http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/B29-bomb-bay-Fat-Man.jpg

 

Inside Silverplate B-29, with Little Boy

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yUYZVkat_9g/VIw6Bcs0jEI/AAAAAAAAJsY/OdrhmRJxcAM/s1600/little-boy4_el-cajon-de-grisom.jpg

 

 

Added Japanese 1000kg bomb from this post here.

Working into chart above.

 

 

 

[cashmeowsidehbd 1,269]

Oh cool. I was going to say "my jokes". This is good info though.

[MasterofBlitz 226]

Well that is all the big bombs in Warthunder.

Too bad we cannot have some of the even bigger bombs like the Earthquake bombs (Tallboy, Grandslam), or the Pumpkin Bomb (A Fat man bomb shell loaded with full of High explosives). Also thanks for the table.

[sigma__zero@psn 4,650]

Nice comparison table. I hope we can get more big bombs like these. SC 2000 perhaps?

 

1 hour ago, MasterofBlitz said:

Too bad we cannot have some of the even bigger bombs like the Earthquake bombs (Tallboy, Grandslam), or the Pumpkin Bomb (A Fat man bomb shell loaded with full of High explosives).

 

Tankers would cry too hard .

[Pony51 6,572]

OK, everyone can stare in awe.

[Pony51 6,572]

Guess everyone is stunned in awe, can speak.

[TT33a 5,408]

You missed the SC 2000 pictured at the bottom:

 

[igeticsu 3,400]

I really want them to add the proper big german bombs -.-

[Pony51 6,572]

19 hours ago, TT33a said:

You missed the SC 2000 pictured at the bottom:

 

 

Those dimensions match the SC1800, or very close to it.  Do not recall another reference to an "SC2000."

 

Besides, SC2500 would be better, no? 

[TT33a 5,408]

5 hours ago, Pony51 said:

SC1800, or very close to it.  Do not recall another reference to an "SC2000"

Besides, SC2500 would be better, no? 

 

We want all bombs.....

Here are two references:

 

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/sc2000.html

http://www.luftarchiv.de/bordgerate/abwurf.htm

[Saltzer 2,454]

On 6/8/2017 at 10:05 PM, Pony51 said:

While I found USA, German, and more UK bombs, I did not spend much time look for Japan, Italy, and other USSR big ones.

 

Japan went up to 1500 kg bombs.

Spoiler

 

[TT33a 5,408]

On ‎06‎/‎08‎/‎2017 at 4:05 PM, Pony51 said:

	Designation	explosive	Mass kg	kg explosive	% ratio	Max armor pen	Dest rad	Frag rad	1st Unit	Qty	Rank
Germany	PC1400 "Fritz" (APHE)	Fp. 60/40	1400	320	23%	?	?	?	He111H-6	2	2
	SC1800 "Satan"	Fp. 60/40	1800	1100	61%	?	?	?	He111H-6	1	2
	SC2500 "Stahlmax"	Fp. 60/40	2500	1700	68%	?	?	?	Do217K	1	4

 

 

 

Should it not be more like this:

PC 1400

1st unit would be the Ju 88 A-1 or the Ju 87 D-3

SC 1800

1st unit would also be the Ju 88 A-1 or the Ju 87 D-3

SC 2000

1st unit would be the Ju 88 A-4

SC 2500

1st unit would be the He 111 H-6

[SD501st 2,503]

FYI, for everyone confused as to what the various prefixes of german bombs mean:

• SC - Sprengbombe, Cylindrisch - high explosive bomb, cylindrical
• SD() - Sprengbombe, Dickwandig - high explosive bomb, thick-walled, basicly meaning less HE filler but better penetration and/or fragmentation effect
• PC - Panzersprengbombe, Cylindrisch - armor piercing high explosive bomb, cylindrical
• PD - Panzersprengbombe, Dickwandig - armor piercing high explosive bomb, thick walled
• PC RS -Panzersprengbombe, Raketenunterstützt - armor piercing high explosive bomb with less than 15% high explosive content and small rocket engine in the rear, only able to be used from steep dives angles

 

Oh and there are also a variety of other types and prefixes, like the AB type bombs (Abwurfbehälter - container for multiple smaller bomblets, which can again be of various types...) or B type bombs(Brandbombe- inciendary bomb)... B type bombs came in a variety of further subcategories and trying to list them and all the other special types is one particular rabbithole I am not too keen on jumping down.

 

If you can read german and want to read more, including the official documents for quite a lot of them, this is the website for you.

Edited June 15, 2017 by SD501st

[Pony51 6,572]

On 6/15/2017 at 8:36 AM, SD501st said:

FYI, for everyone confused as to what the various prefixes of german bombs mean:

• SC - Sprengbombe, Cylindrisch - high explosive bomb, cylindrical
• SD() - Sprengbombe, Dickwandig - high explosive bomb, thick-walled, basicly meaning less HE filler but better penetration and/or fragmentation effect
• PC - Panzersprengbombe, Cylindrisch - armor piercing high explosive bomb, cylindrical
• PD - Panzersprengbombe, Dickwandig - armor piercing high explosive bomb, thick walled
• PC RS -Panzersprengbombe, Raketenunterstützt - armor piercing high explosive bomb with less than 15% high explosive content and small rocket engine in the rear, only able to be used from steep dives angles

 

@SD501st Thank you for that list. (I already knew them, but very useful for others) 

 

I the game only considers HE / TNT for damage,  no other type (AP) is used.

 

 

BTW, a question of the "SC 2000"  The more authoritative documents do not list an SC2000, and the dimensions given are the same as SC1800.

The only ways to be same dimensions but 200kg heavier is if it was an SD type, thicker walls.

SC 1800	1800	660	3500	1000
SC 2000	2000	660	3500	1200

 

Great list of ordnance here, I think has link to German bombs.

 

[SD501st 2,503]

7 minutes ago, Pony51 said:

 

@SD501st Thank you for that list. (I already knew them, but very useful for others) 

 

I think the only only considers HE / TNT for damage,  no other type (AP) is used.

 

 

BTW, a question of the "SC 2000"  The more authoritative documents do not list an SC2000, and the dimensions given are the same as SC1800.

The only ways to be same dimensions but 200kg heavier is if it was an SD type, thicker walls.

SC 1800	1800	660	3500	1000
SC 2000	2000	660	3500	1200

 

Great list of ordnance here, I think has link to German bombs.

 

I couldn't find much about the SC 2000 either, and the fact that it's dimensions are the same as the SC 1800 is confusing. The sources list 200 kg more explosive filler for the 2000 though, so it might be that the SC 1800, despite having the same length and diameter, has a different shape. Luftarchiv.de gives us this picture however:

http://www.luftarchiv.de/index.htm?/bordgerate/abwurf.htm

Nr. 8 being the SC 1800 and Nr. 9 being the SC 2000, which depicts them with different lengths, but the table further down on that page repeats the measurements being the same. 

Then, there's also this depiction of the SC 2000, which fits neither the SC 1800, nor the SC 2000 as depicted on the Luftarchiv.de picture:

 

My best guess is that they could be fitted with different tailcones and noses, depending on mission type(level vs dive attack), target type, drop altitude etc. which would explain this discrepancy... and simultaneously open a giant can of worms in terms of proper documentation.

[xX_Lord_James_Xx 2,400]

On ‎6‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 4:33 AM, Saltzer said:

 

Japan went up to 1500 kg bombs.

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Ah man, it says restricted at the top of the page, I cant read any further .

 

On ‎6‎/‎15‎/‎2017 at 0:17 PM, SD501st said:

I couldn't find much about the SC 2000 either, and the fact that it's dimensions are the same as the SC 1800 is confusing. The sources list 200 kg more explosive filler for the 2000 though, so it might be that the SC 1800, despite having the same length and diameter, has a different shape. Luftarchiv.de gives us this picture however:

http://www.luftarchiv.de/index.htm?/bordgerate/abwurf.htm

Nr. 8 being the SC 1800 and Nr. 9 being the SC 2000, which depicts them with different lengths, but the table further down on that page repeats the measurements being the same. 

Then, there's also this depiction of the SC 2000, which fits neither the SC 1800, nor the SC 2000 as depicted on the Luftarchiv.de picture:

 

My best guess is that they could be fitted with different tailcones and noses, depending on mission type(level vs dive attack), target type, drop altitude etc. which would explain this discrepancy... and simultaneously open a giant can of worms in terms of proper documentation.

Perhaps SC2000 is a misnomer? Maybe they rounded up SC1800 bombs when fit with heavier tips/tails since they might have gone over 1900kg when adding on other stuff?

[Hopit 4,416]

On 14/06/2017 at 11:33 AM, Saltzer said:

 

Japan went up to 1500 kg bombs.

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Isn't that an AP bomb? (considering the Mark 5 are AP bombs)

Edited June 17, 2017 by Hopit

[_Iluminas_ 3,769]

On 15.6.2017 at 3:36 PM, SD501st said:

 

Oh and there are also a variety of other types and prefixes, like the AB type bombs (Abwurfbehälter - container for multiple smaller bomblets, which can again be of various types...) or B type bombs(Brandbombe- inciendary bomb)... B type bombs came in a variety of further subcategories and trying to list them and all the other special types is one particular rabbithole I am not too keen on jumping down.

 

u forgot to mentation the SD 4 HL (german PTAB)   Bomblett   in an AB 500 where 74 and in an AB 250 where 40 of them each of them has a penetration of 60mm at 60°

Spoiler

 

Edited June 17, 2017 by JG27_Iluminas

[TT33a 5,408]

10 hours ago, JG27_Iluminas said:

forgot to mentation the German SD 4 HL

 

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waffen/PDF/SD4HL.pdf

[xX_Lord_James_Xx 2,400]

18 hours ago, Hopit said:

Isn't that an AP bomb? (considering the Mark 5 are AP bombs)

Well, it does say it's use is against Heavily Armored Warships, and the tip seems to be very thick for a standard bomb.

[Hopit 4,416]

1 hour ago, xX_Lord_James_Xx said:

Well, it does say it's use is against Heavily Armored Warships, and the tip seems to be very thick for a standard bomb.

If that bomb is what I think it is, the HE filler in it is absolutely garbage. (Considering currently the AP bombs are close to useless)

Edited June 18, 2017 by Hopit

[xX_Lord_James_Xx 2,400]

53 minutes ago, Hopit said:

If that bomb is what I think it is, the HE filler in it is absolutely garbage. 

Yeah, it says it has a loading factor of 3.3%. That means it only has about 50kg of explosives for that 1500kg bomb. And how current ship models are like bases, that bomb would be totally worthless, equal to 100kg bombs. Can't wait for WT ships, so they can update there ship models and make AP bombs useful. 

Edited June 18, 2017 by xX_Lord_James_Xx

[Pony51 6,572]

On 6/15/2017 at 11:17 AM, SD501st said:

I couldn't find much about the SC 2000 either, and the fact that it's dimensions are the same as the SC 1800 is confusing. The sources list 200 kg more explosive filler for the 2000 though, so it might be that the SC 1800, despite having the same length and diameter, has a different shape. Luftarchiv.de gives us this picture however:

http://www.luftarchiv.de/index.htm?/bordgerate/abwurf.htm

Nr. 8 being the SC 1800 and Nr. 9 being the SC 2000, which depicts them with different lengths, but the table further down on that page repeats the measurements being the same. 

Then, there's also this depiction of the SC 2000, which fits neither the SC 1800, nor the SC 2000 as depicted on the Luftarchiv.de picture:

 

My best guess is that they could be fitted with different tailcones and noses, depending on mission type(level vs dive attack), target type, drop altitude etc. which would explain this discrepancy... and simultaneously open a giant can of worms in terms of proper documentation.

 

The difference from an SC1800 to SC2000 is 200kg (440lb), that is a lot of weight!

Only way to do that and keep same primary dimensions is thicker walls and tapered shape, at that point will be an "SD" type, and have less explosive (that is if you follow the German bomb types)

 

The diagram looks much more like a SC1800 (or a PC1600).

[TT33a 5,408]

14 hours ago, Pony51 said:

have less explosive

 

What if it has a more effective explosive type?

 

.

Edited June 20, 2017 by TT33a