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  1. 1. Should the MB.326G be added to the game?

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    • Yes, as prenium/gift/events vehicles
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  2. 2. Should the MB.326K be added to the game?

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I would like to suggest the Italian jet Trainer/Ground attacker Aermacchi MB.326 Version G and K

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The MB.326 was a Orriginally a light jet trainer aircraft but many variation was made to make it a Ground attacker, those varriation was one of the most successful Italian military jet for export with over 600 built. the Itlain used 135 Unarmed trainer MB.326 from 1962 and an additional 2 MB.326G for operational test. the MB.326G was a Ground attaker variation of the MB.326. as the trainer, it was a two sitted airplane but with internal strengthening, 6 hardpoint under his wing, a little more powerful engine and 2x 12.7mm Browning on the side of the nose. the date of the the first flight of the MB.326G was prior 1970 (date of the production of the MB.326K) many MB.326 was exported under the name MB.326GB and MB.326GC, a total of 220 sub-varriation of the MB.326 was produce in Italy or under license in other country like Brazil. the 2 MB.326 were later Converted to MB.326 wich was now a single sit ground attacker with more advanced instrument, 30mm guns and more powerful engine. the MB.326 was produced under licensse by south-Africa. 

 

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The MB.326G was powered by a powerful Viper 20 Mk.540 powerplant provided 1,524 kg of thrust making it considerably faster than the MB.326 and allowing a payload of 1814kg splited in 6 hardpoint under the wing. an base armament of 2x 12.7mm M3 Browning machine was at each side of the nose and additional gun pod could be installed under the wing along with a large and interesting selection of bombs and rocket.

 

The MB.326K as in service in Italy was conversion of the MB.326G that was already used. the New Viper Mk 600 engine, capable of 1,814 kg thrust to give an even better performance capable to reach up to 890km/h. the plane had strengthened airframe, the second seat was removed to make place for avionic and fuel, the 12.7mm guns was removed to make place to 30mm DEFA guns. the wing remain the same with the same capacity.

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MB.326K

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General characteristics MB.326G

Performance

  • Never exceed speed: Mach 0.8
  • Maximum speed: 814 km/h (439 knots, 506 mph) at 4,575m (15,000 ft) Note: Reference speed of the MB.326H who had the same engine and similar weight
  • Stall speed: 146 km/h (79 knots , 91 mph) (wheels and flaps lowered)
  • Range: 1,665 km (900 Nmi, 1,035 miles) with large tip tanks at 11,500 m (38,000 ft)
  • Service ceiling: 12,500 m (41,000 ft)
  • Rate of climb: 22.3 m/s (4,400 ft/min)

Armament

  • Guns: provision for 2 × 12.7 mm Browning machine guns
  • Bombs: Up to 4000 lb (1814 kg) of weapons on six hardpoints, including gun-pods, bombs, and rockets

 

General characteristics MB.326K

  • Crew: 1
  • Payload: 1,814 kg (4,000 lb)
  • Length: 10.65m (34 ft 11¼ in)
  • Wingspan: 10.56 m (34 ft 8 in)
  • Height: 3.72 m (12 ft 2½ in)
  • Wing area: 19.0 m² (204.5 ft²)
  • Empty weight: 6,535 lb (2,964 kg)
  • Max. takeoff weight: 12,996 lb (5,895 kg)
  • Powerplant:  1 x Rolls-Royce Viper 632-42 turbojet engine developing 4,000lb of thrust.

Performance

Armament

  • Guns: provision for 2 × 30 mm DEFA machine guns (125 rounds per gun)
  • Bombs: Up to 4000 lb (1800 kg) of weapons on six hardpoints, including gun-pods, bombs, and rockets

 

Hard-point capacity

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Each harpoint of the MB.326 had the possibility to carry one of the fallowing armament as long they didn't reach the carry limits of the plane himself.

her is a list of what a single hardpoint on the MB.236 could carry.

Cam

  • Tactical Photo-recce pod

Gun Pod

  • 12.7mm gun pod
  • twin 12.7mm gun pod
  • Matra SA.10 Gun pod (30mm Aden 150rounds)
  • SUU-11 A/A 7.62 Minigun pod (1500round)

Bomb

  • 260lb (118kg) bomb
  • Dropable 227l Fuel tank
  • Napalm tank

Rocket/missile

  • AS11 Air to surface missile
  • AS12 Air to surface missile
  • Matra 122 Rocket container (7 x 68)
  • SIMPRES Orione rocket launcher (18x BPD 50mm rockets)
  • 2x 127mm HVAR
  • 4x 127mm HVAR
  • 6x 127mm HVAR

 

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Source

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=431

http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_mb326_en.php

http://www.warbirdalley.com/mb326.htm

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/jet-warbird-news/iconic-aermacchi-mb-326-jet-returns-italian-skies.html

http://www.airforce.gov.au/raafmuseum/exhibitions/training_hang/macchi.htm

https://www.aviationsmilitaires.net/v2/base/view/Model/772.html

http://www.avionslegendaires.net/avion-militaire/aermacchi-m-b-326/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aermacchi_MB-326

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it's a bit slower than the F-84G but it's better armed. it would be nice to have them after the F-84G in the attacker line. there should be the G.80 and the G.82 before the F-84G and the MB.326G and MB.326K in that order in the tier 5 attacker. it would make a nice selection of tier 5 attacker. With the Various gun pods of the MB.326, the airplane can take down any other plane in an heart bit. but it's the various rockets pod that make it so versatile.

 

it should be BR.8.3 and 8.7 at least.

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Those can be at 7.0 of BR. Give both regular! Nice planes!

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11 hours ago, igeticsu said:

poor armament, but I want it!

 

you call it poor armament!? have you read the part about the gun pod? the 12.7mm, the 30mm and the BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 7.62mm up to 6 additional gun pod. this plane would tore in piece any other plane in an heart beat. gaijin would probably limit the load-out to not allow to have only the same gun pod just to keep the balance with the other plane.

On 2017-06-11 at 4:46 PM, *AceOfAces99 said:

Those can be at 7.0 of BR. Give both regular! Nice planes!

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the speed is not so far under the average jet and have heavy armament for the ground target. it's not a fast plane but a good ground attacker and heavy fighter, it's BR should be a bit higher to me.

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8 hours ago, Serpiko82 said:

Its performances are nothing OP, and Gaijin could easily balance it by limiting the loadout options, so it would be a nice jet attacker. Not sure at which BR though. 

 

I have to a agree. This is a very well rounded jet. Given the ground attack nature of the first 3 jets in beta, this would be a nice addition. +1

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10 hours ago, Serpiko82 said:

Its performances are nothing OP, and Gaijin could easily balance it by limiting the loadout options, so it would be a nice jet attacker. Not sure at which BR though. 

well, i dream of the 6x 7.62 minigun on the wing. i guess it would do nicely when you get to some bomber. but i presume that Gaijin will not offer All-Gunpod load-out for those plane. more likely to have the choice of 2 additional gunpod with some rocket pod. still nice too. i hope at least we could have a All-rocket loadout for the tank hunting.

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main argument point here would be "did italy operate the G and specially the K variants" or the K variant is a case like G.91R/3 where italy did not operate the better armed version. in 326's case south africa operated the better armed version? i need clarification.

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Good idea, but introducing "cold war" jets, means that Something must be done about nations status, we should have at one moment NATO nations against Warsaw pact ones.

The comfrontation with WWII German jets should reach the end (as it is already ridiculous to see G91 fighting US planes alongside old Me 262s). And it's the same with weapons which can't be only internal guns and GP bombs. This status is good for WWII period, but as WT is going up into 60's planes it's becoming to be a serious problem.

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9 hours ago, Ruthless95 said:

main argument point here would be "did italy operate the G and specially the K variants" or the K variant is a case like G.91R/3 where italy did not operate the better armed version. in 326's case south africa operated the better armed version? i need clarification.

the Italian G version was totally converted to the K version. same engine, same armament. it was for testing propose for the eventuality to buy more of those plane. at the end the 326G and K was use in operational test. the G variant was operated a few years. it was more about developing an ground attaker to sell it and maybe use in in their army. Italy did use the plane for test and demonstration and operated in 9th wing in grazzanise base.

 

sadly i was unable to find picture of the G variant. most of those was in fact simple trainer MB.326 painted in camo. i presume the G variant was converted not long after it was built.

 

On 2017-06-14 at 7:24 AM, Serpiko82 said:

Its performances are nothing OP, and Gaijin could easily balance it by limiting the loadout options, so it would be a nice jet attacker. Not sure at which BR though. 

i found additional information about more of his load out. as you can see in the new picture, there was more than those i initially indicate in the post.

 

6 hours ago, Malko07 said:

Good idea, but introducing "cold war" jets, means that Something must be done about nations status, we should have at one moment NATO nations against Warsaw pact ones.

The comfrontation with WWII German jets should reach the end (as it is already ridiculous to see G91 fighting US planes alongside old Me 262s). And it's the same with weapons which can't be only internal guns and GP bombs. This status is good for WWII period, but as WT is going up into 60's planes it's becoming to be a serious problem.

 

the other nation already have the plane from this era. i was reading even more about the MB.326. apparently, since Italy was recovering from WW2. it couldn't effort a jet bomber or supersonic interceptor like the other allied power. the MB.326 was a cheap alternative to a bomber and to offer an export plane that was for ground attack, close support and light bomber all at the same.

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With MB 326 it's up to Falklands in 1982, were it was used by Argentina Navy, South-Africa "bush wars" in the 80.s, and until now as I guess there is always some nations using it. And about Germany, in the 50.s US origin aircrafts  equiped the air forces like the majority of NATO nations (except, GB,France) . But all WWII jets deseapared with the fall or the Reich. And as I said, only GB and France had capacities to produce their own planes at this time, Italy did a little with the G91, which design was based on american F86.

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