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19 minutes ago, No_Camping said:

Sad but true

something thats even more sadder is: 

1) they ruin the fun for everyone else... im speaking of all the 9.7 T-72AVs played by people with below 100 battles since they are incompetent.

2) i still cant understand what a n00b thinks but its probably isnt even fun for them as well.

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Why would u make a guide when less then 5% of the playerbase reads the forum annyway ?     and of those 5 % so low numbers can even read or understand english.    if this game had region lock yeah i would fully understand the guides,   But seeing how this game is with all regions playing with eachother   (certain region should get a auto lock anyway)

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11 hours ago, cosworth1977 said:

Why would u make a guide when less then 5% of the playerbase reads the forum annyway ?     and of those 5 % so low numbers can even read or understand english.    if this game had region lock yeah i would fully understand the guides,   But seeing how this game is with all regions playing with eachother   (certain region should get a auto lock anyway)

This is really a strange way of seeing things in life...

And why would you share it, since very few people would read it?

Should Gaijin close this forum because of your argument?

 

As for the premise of your message, it is only partly valid. It is probably true that a small fraction of the players go on the forum. 5%? How would you know?

And my guess is that the vast majority of non-Russian (they have their forum) gamers have actually a pretty good knowledge of English. As your argument about regions playing together, I simply do not see its relevance here... For instance, JOB is made of players from 44 different countries, all speaking basic English...


Now, let's look at the actual numbers

I would say that more than 115000 reads for just these 3 posts is not as marginal as you seem to imply.

Anyway, the information is there on the forum, for those interested and willing to search and find it, and use it (maybe starting with you?)!

 

Cheers

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My only point was that 5% would even look on forum.    And the low numbers of people even understanding or can even read basic english.     That is why this game is always such a frustration to play.   

 

  You put plenty of energy into it and people are reading it.     If they learn from the map or gameplay tutorials is the biggest qeustion.  I would personal never read stuff like that.  More fun to learn it gameplay wise and if then something is not working,  then maybe the answer is on the forum.      But seeing its the internet and everybody cant put something on the forums of a game , i never trust anything what is on gameforums  .     

 

 

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Hi NO_CAMPING,


I just started playing WT and I have found your topic. I think it contains really useful tips and I will try to follow them as much as possible.


Above all, I share your main idea of playing to win the battle together with your team.


Finally, I think it's really welcome that there are people like you who take a lot of their time to help others.


So thank you very much!

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5 hours ago, Quantummax said:

Hi NO_CAMPING,


I just started playing WT and I have found your topic. I think it contains really useful tips and I will try to follow them as much as possible.


Above all, I share your main idea of playing to win the battle together with your team.


Finally, I think it's really welcome that there are people like you who take a lot of their time to help others.


So thank you very much!

 

@Quantummax Thank you so much for your very kind message! Glad to be helpful!
Do not hesitate to check out my YouTube channel which is focused on strategy for ground maps!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPXsOMjFipImh5KaJ7et2bQ

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2 hours ago, YEA_003 said:

@No_Camping круто! Очень интересные мысли! Жаль, что не все игроки думают также

Thanks! And yes, more people could benefit from these advices

Спасибо! И да, больше людей могут извлечь выгоду из этих советов

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On 16/09/2017 at 01:26, No_Camping said:

This tutorial is also available in French/Ce tutoriel est aussi disponible en français : "Améliorer votre jeu en bataille de chars"

(Updated 15 April 2021)

 

Hello fellow tankers!

 

For those who already read this post, you know my view on the goal to achieve in a battle (apart from having fun): WIN. Not the number of kills, not the final ranking in your team (ARPT), not avoiding dying to preserve your damn KDR... Winning the battle should be your only goal. If you do not agree, fine. Your loss, literally. With this is mind, a good player is above all characterized by his/her positive impact on the outcome of a battle .

 

If you are still with me, here are a few thoughts about ensuring that you are doing your best to help your team win a ground battle (see also my tutorial "Strategic tips for difficult ground battle maps" pinned in the same Army Academy section of the forum and featuring many videos). Of course, if you are already a beast, you will be amused by these advice. But if you are currently simply an average or good (or even bad) player, why not checking them out to improve your game and your tactical skills, and in passing, your win rate. Most of these simple tips are valid in all modes (AB, RB, SB ground battles). They are listed in a tentative logical order and are illustrated in one short video and some full game videos below.

 

Learn about the tanks: the ones you like and play and the ones you don’t (but, try them all!). Check out their weak and strong spots, their reload time, whether they should be angled (Tiger I...) or essentially not (M4 Jumbo, Panthers…), their reverse speed (with a Panther, if necessary, try to hide after a shot by going forward), the position of the crew (gunner, loader...)… Watch a tutorial about the different types of ammunition and learn about their use, damage, speed, weaknesses, and strengths… Learn to use the graduations in gunner view to elevate your gun depending on the distance of the target (use range finding (if you like it) and binoculars aiming), especially in RB/SB. Finally, learn to use smoke shells to protect the access to a spot you or your teammates want to reach, or to blind enemy tanks. Exploit smoke grenades to hide your retreat or hide your advance, or simply to confuse the enemy!
By the way, you can have very good results playing most tanks of any nation. There are a very few exceptions (French and Japanese Tier I; and yet, good players do also reasonably well there), but a "tank or nation bias" cannot be an excuse for an overall low win rate. Some players only develop one nation ground tech tree. That's their entire right but they will miss many great and fun tanks to play, with the risk of soon getting bored with the game. Most importantly, they will never properly learn the strengths and weaknesses of the many tanks they ignore, and will hence never fully learn how to properly fight them: you only properly learn to kill a tank after having died enough times playing it! As an unfortunate consequence, many one-nation players also quickly develop the frustrative misconception that all other nations tanks are OP compared to the ones they use, and then adopt a very defensive, overly prudent, and ultimately, very ineffective play style... adding to their frustration.

 

Arcade, realistic, and simulator modes: do not listen to snobs (who consider that their favorite mode is the "only true game") or nostalgic WoT players: the three game modes are as interesting and difficult as each other, but not necessarily for the same reasons. The three modes require for example a very good awareness of the environment: in AB, because all the enemies can see you, which affects strongly your placement and displacements; in RB/SB, because you do not see them, which will require concentration and anticipation skills. In RB/SB, aiming and shooting is more difficult than in AB, but nothing better to know your guns (depending on the ammunition used) and the "weak spots" of the different tanks than to practice in AB, which will give you very useful automatisms for RB/SB. AB will also teach you to take the best paths to move on a map (without being seen in AB, hence in RB/SB) and you will learn better than in RB/SB how to optimize the placement of your tank and the best way to angle it (or not) in close combat (the "green cross" of enemies is ruthless in AB try to make it red !).

That's why I advise starting with AB, also to understand the impact that a single player can have being active (the players who play only in RB/SB with too few AB games are usually too cautious, and/or sometimes lack a "battle plan"; see hereafter). Conversely, AB is tactically richer in the sense that the knowledge of the position of the opponents will give you and your teammates a better-informed vision to establish individual and collective plans/strategies at the scale of the whole map, that the faster tanks than in RB/SB will help you to implement. In any case, a complete player will benefit from his/her knowledge acquired in the three modes that will conversely help him/her to improve in each of them.

 

Before going to battle, prepare a coherent line-up: your BR is set by your top tank, so put at least 3 tanks of comparable power and BR in your line-up (arcade). The temptation is sometimes so great to try one’s new BR 8.7 toy, even if it is only supported by two BR 5.0 "weak" tanks. Don’t. Oh, and people taking their new (often premium) toy and leaving the battle once it’s destroyed are a shameful disgrace to this game (unfortunately, too common at BR>7.0). Note that in RB, a coherent line-up adapted to this mode necessitates at least 6 crew slots (medium/light tanks, heavy tanks, one SPG, at least one AA, and planes, if you also fly). Putting several tanks in your line-up will also allow you to adapt the tanks you play to the maps you will encounter (AB/RB/SB) or to the evolution of the battle (AB/RB).

 

Learn about the maps: a very good knowledge of the maps is mandatory to become and accomplished tanker. You should try to discover the fastest and safest routes between critical positions on a given map, and in particular, between the cap areas. It is also important to know the good shooting (and even camping...) spots on a map, and definitely to be able to avoid the bad ones... But most importantly, your advanced knowledge of the maps and of what the teams usually do on them will allow you to develop your strategic skills, to define your plan at the start of the battle, and to update it during the battle. Ultimately, this tactical knowledge will give you a decisive advantage on the battlefield and will also make the game even more interesting for you! After reading the present tutorial, you can consult my other tutorial also pinned in this forum section which is devoted to "Strategic tips for difficult ground battle maps" which strongly focuses on the notion of connected zones in Domination battles. This tutorial features many videos from my YouTube channel dedicated to map guides, other tutorials, and gameplays.

 

Spawn intelligently: when you have played enough battles, you should be able to realize why and how a battle is most of the time lost on such or such map. For instance, on the Korea map with 3 zones (see the first video below), most of the players of both sides usually spawn east to go camping above C. Simply don’t! Spawn in the west with direct access to the connected zones A and B, where this battle is simply always won. Good players first spawn west. Period. More generally, first spawn where you will have the most options (A and B in Korea, Tunisia, or Kuban…). In particular, when there are 3 (horizontal) zones (Korea, Sinai, Berlin, Tunisia...), try to privilege going toward a zone with easy access to another zone. In addition, if you see that the area covered by your first spawn point is heavily controlled by your team, respawn to go to an area where your team needs help. Just never let the game decide the spawn for you!

 

Mind the caps: there is no doubt that most battles are lost by the team who cared the less about the caps/zones (some players would be surprised that it is even truer in RB, and even more in SB battles). Taking, holding, retaking zones is the best way to ensure victory. Period. Do not worry, by doing this, you’ll have plenty of kill opportunities (see the full gameplay video below). Of course, this does not mean that one should just go banzai rushing to a zone or just stay there when it is captured... In particular, in RB, leave the captured zone, and wait for the enemy on their side of the zone. Also, learn to abandon a cap too well defended by the opponent if your team firmly holds the two other caps. Instead, be ready to fight at the junction between the enemy cap and the territory controlled by your team. Be smart, develop your tactical skills, lay your traps, but mind the caps!

A quick note about the Battle mode in AB/RB/SB (see also this video), where each team owns an already captured cap, usually near their spawn. Each cap takes several minutes to uncap and then cap, and for this reason, one must rather see this mode as a "death match" and therefore be more patient/cautious/defensive than in the Domination and Conquest modes where being aggressive near the caps is the best path to victory. Indeed, in Battle mode, the bulk of the ally team should first intercept the most aggressive enemies attacking the ally cap. To go too early to the enemy cap is, in my opinion, a suicidal error. But if you still decide to go there, you have to learn to take pauses and be patient, as the enemy will certainly have a numerical advantage near their cap. And of course in RB, never uncap the enemy zone if you are not sure to control it then (otherwise, the enemy will recapture it quickly and earn spawns points). However, there are a few maps (Finland, Berlin, or American Desert, where the 2 caps are very close to each other and in the center of the map) where it is essential to put a strong pressure on the enemy cap from the beginning of the battle.

 

Don’t necessarily go first to the cap were everybody goes: a battle is won by exhausting enemy tickets by taking and holding zones (something which should be reminded to many players…). Very often, one cap is completely ignored at the beginning of the game (B in Berlin, Tunisia, Korea…). In many maps where the three zones align vertically (Mozdok B, Eastern Europe B, Kuban B, Ardennes B…), the battle is won in the central zone, while one zone naturally belongs to the enemy and the last one belongs to our side. Go at once where the real fight will take place. To achieve that… Spawn intelligently (see above)!

 

Watch your f...ing map: most players are not watching their map enough (or at all) and that, surprisingly enough, even at high tiers. Of course, watching your mini-map (typically every 8-10 seconds) will help you spotting sneaky enemies or your next target. But most importantly, it allows you to assess the situation: which zone is in danger to be taken soon by the enemy, where your allies and enemies are (and hits on enemy targets in RB), which enemy or spot your allies are marking on the mini-map, where you should go next, where to respawn intelligently (see above)… Note that you can also access to a larger and more precise version of the mini-map by pressing "M" (default setting).

 

Move and be (re)active: if you are the best sniper/camper in the world, fine. But let’s be honest, most campers we cross and kill on the battlefield are mediocre players and lack the tactical skills of active players (alright, my in-game nickname might reveal a certain prejudice against campers; oh sorry, they call themselves “snipers”; sure...). Always remember the objective: caps/zones. Once you have taken or helped take one zone, hold it if the enemy is still present or counterattacks (which does not mean that you should stay right on the zone, especially in RB/SB where you should lay your traps as an enemy uncapping a zone reveals its presence), and move to the next one if the zone you already helped take is well secured, which leads me to…

 

Learn the critical spots of a map (and how to get there fast): learn to drive your tanks (stop wiggling and bumping into others; straight lines are faster!), and also learn the fastest way from one to another critical spot or cap of the map and the dangerous passages to be avoided. Try several options before discovering your favorite approaches, learn to be smart and to lay traps… This nice rock above C on Sinai, attacking B from the west in Sinai (contrary to what most players do), blocking the enemy entrance to B in Mozdok when spawning from the west side, going to the church in B in Poland by the little street to the west and not from the main street (from both camps)… Remember the spots where you have been killed so many times without being able to shoot at anything and those where you (or an enemy) had a surprisingly good run. Learn where the enemy usually go (to C in Korea, to the city A in Tunisia…) or what they often do on such or such map. Prepare your cunning plan (and read my tutorial "Strategic tips for difficult ground battle maps")!

 

Prioritize your targets: you often have the choice between several targets, whether in an urgent situation (the enemies saw you and you do not have time to retreat) or in a more serene situation, especially when ambushing a few enemy tanks. Choose (in an urgent situation, do it quickly!) your first target according to the following factors: the targets who saw you and those who did not (tunnel vision), the dangerousness of the targets, their reloading time, their placement... In an urgent situation, start with the most powerful target (at least to destroy its gun) hoping that the other tank will do you only limited damage or will miss you (angle your tank properly with respect to the latter). On the other hand, if the most powerful target has just fired and has a long reload time, start with the other target. In an ambush situation behind several tanks, start with the tanks in the rear, so that those in front do not realize too soon (or at all!) that their allies disappear one by one! In other serene situations, you will first choose the most dangerous target, especially if you have a good chance of being able to seriously damage or even destroy it.
Finally, if you encounter an opponent really too tough for your gun (T28/T95 against your Char 25t), be realistic and know when to retreat to eventually flank it and attack it later from a more favorable angle, or just hope that an ally with a more powerful tank will take care of it.

 

Do not get distracted by campers and far flanking enemies: Most campers are mediocre players without a plan (that's why most of them simply camp all games) and usually shoot at other campers, resulting in an absurd mutual annihilation. As a rule of thumb, never camp the campers, especially when they can be easily avoided (like campers over A in Tunisia, or campers from C in Mozdok), making them irrelevant. Why taking the risk of dying just to destroy an irrelevant player with no impact on the battle? Even when campers are blocking your only possible route (but most of the time, you can find an alternative safer route), you can try to outsmart them by exploiting the terrain and the mobility of your tank (see the two videos below) or first shoot smoke shells (if available) at their general direction to blind them. Yet, if a competent camper becomes a real trouble, he should become the priority target of allied airstrikes after being marked on the map. Moreover, especially in AB conquest maps, there will always be a few enemies to go for a wide route (like going to the east castle in the Fulda map, despite the cap being on A in the west). This kind of wide flanking is generally totally useless, these players never meeting any enemy (they often ultimately go to the enemy spawn where they quickly die after their long boring route). A common error is for a group of allied tanks to go meet them, hence not participating to the real fight in the area near the only cap. It is so frustrating to see 5 allies go chasing an isolated and irrelevant wide flanker, and falling for what I call "unintended psychological warfare"... Don't fall for it, and try to convince your teammates in the chat to simply ignore these far flanking trolls.

 

Lead by example: do not be afraid, you do not really die when your tank is destroyed… And forget your damn KDR (a useless measure of your talent in ground AB)! Take (reasonable) risks, especially if there is a good chance that this will help to win the battle, and make the best of your 3 available spawns in AB. You will be surprised that your acts of bravery will encourage some of your teammates to follow in your steps (hum, unfortunately, not always…). Fight up to the end and never give up: I have seen so many battles won with a few tickets left (remember that one kill is worth 100 tickets), or lost because some players actually gave up too soon or just left the game like the cowards and traitors they are. In fact, I find that the most interesting and memorable battles, the ones which actually show the kind of tanker you are, are those which seem (and are sometimes) desperate!

 

Cooperate with your teammates: even when not playing in a squad, be active in helping your teammates. An enemy at the corner? The friendly in front of you goes for it? Tag along, but again, do not bump on your ally while he tries to shoot! Also, never stand behind an ally shooting as you will block his retreat. Did the enemy fire? Go! Don’t let your buddy die! An enemy hiding behind a rock, and an ally attacking him from the right? Attack from the left, and let your ally take the kill if it is safer for him to do it; otherwise, go for it! An ally close to you crying for help in the chat? Look if you can help! Finally, in RB, when the caps are "vertical", meaning one belongs to each side, wait for your allies before capping the first zone so that the maximum number of teammates get spawn points (people rushing alone to this first cap with their fast but useless M22 or BT-5 are effectively working for the enemy).

 

Spread: as you advance toward the enemy, we just saw that it can be very effective to tag along with a squadmate or a simple unknown but active teammate (use the message "follow me" to encourage him to do so). Yet, do not join big groups of friendly tanks cluttered behind a house or a rock, or on a cap: they are perfect targets for artillery and planes... and you will be too if you go there. Hence, be aware of artillery (especially if you are in a paper tank), of enemies starting an air session in AB, and more generally, of the enemy planes in the air in all game modes (if you are in an AA, please focus on them)... which leads me to...

Use planes: in RB/SB, and preferably if you are a good pilot, do not hesitate to take planes (if possible fighters/attackers with some bombs and/or rockets). Yet, never forget that a plane cannot take a cap... and hence do not spawn in a plane just because you feel like it, if your team has too little presence on the ground or if capturing zones is becoming an urgent matter... If allied tanks become too isolated, they will also become weaker targets for the enemy ground forces. In AB, learn to use bombs/rockets going for the most dangerously located or the most powerful enemy tanks (or even for the best enemy players! Watch the battle stats and the kill list), or to unblock a situation, or aiming at big groups of enemy tanks (see above). If you take a fighter, imperatively protect your allied bomber and/or attacker. If not, just stay in your tank and leave the fighter to a less useless teammate. Depending on the month of the year (it seems that Gaijin is continuously changing opinion on the matter), light ground targets can be rammed by planes or not. If ramming is on, do not hesitate to do it (play by the rules, even if you do not agree with them), but only after having accomplished your primary task (bombing ground targets or defending your allied planes).

Use artillery: as light and medium tanks can launch artillery strikes, again preferably target big groups of enemy tanks (artillery will have a better chance to hit something), or use it on tanks located at a critical spot. Avoid using artillery on heavy or well armored tanks and rather focus it on light/medium tanks and SPAAs. Be altruistic: aiming an artillery strike at the single enemy facing you instead of targeting a big group of enemies elsewhere will have a lower potential impact on the battle and may cause your own death later... In fact, do not launch artillery on a cap which is about to be captured by your team, even if one enemy is still there. In RB/SB, launch your artillery at the beginning of the battle on the first cap near the enemy spawn (only in maps with 3 "vertical" caps) or on spots where you know that the enemy is bound to pass through or to camp. In RB, artillery also serves the purpose of locating enemies, as hits will appear on the mini-map of all allies.

 

Use in-game messages: point on the map to a particularly dangerous or well-positioned enemy that most of your teammates, not watching their f...ing map, may have missed. Of course, this is essential in RB/SB, where you should also systematically point to the location of an enemy who just killed you, after respawning. Do not hesitate to use the automatic messages “cover me” or “follow me” (the latter also to locate yourself on the map in SB), but with moderation and only if you actually know what you are doing… Do not forget to thank an ally who just saved your life… And do apologize if you accidentally kill an ally (especially in SB), or in case you bump into an ally who was trying to kill an enemy and missed because of your clumsiness...The battlefield is large enough so that no one should need to do that…

Finally, especially in RB/SB but also in AB, follow the thread of the "kill list" (on the right of your screen) to identify a particularly effective enemy, trying to locate his position (only in AB/RB) by the allied tanks he has eliminated and which hence disappear from your mini-map.

 

Do not be suicidally euphoric: very often, one of the two teams has a very good start, for instance holding the 3 zones after 2 minutes. Then, the leading team pushes like crazy (people pushing right after taking A in Finland is typical of mass suicide; secure B instead) and ultimately loses. Be patient, the enemy will come soon enough. Yet…

 

Advance with the front line: once the enemy is falling back and your teammates are advancing (not in a suicidal manner), do not stay back. Advance with them! And since you are now getting close to the enemy spawn...

 

Let's talk about spawn-killing: in AB, spawn-killing should only be the final reward of an already won battle, when the caps are already secured, and when the enemy is agonizing with a few tanks left. Note that players complaining about this late kind of spawn-killing are just hypocritical crybabies. What do they expect? That the other team will nicely wait for the few enemy tanks left near the caps? Grow up! After all, Nazi Germany was ultimately spawn-killed by the allies... By the way, no, spawn-killing in War Thunder is not illegal.
Yet, most players going early to the enemy spawn hamper the chances of their team to win, for so many reasons, starting with: 1) they usually take a side way to get to the enemy spawn, hence being totally useless during their long drive; 2) totally alone, and the enemy still having many tanks, they usually die instantly; 3) even if they get 1 or 2 kills, it is not worth the long drive and restarting from spawn after being killed; 4) an early spawn-killer is one less tanker where the fight is actually taking place (near caps); 5) spawn-killers (like most campers/snipers) do not make the important kills which will decide of the outcome of the battle: those tanks holding or nearly capturing a zone are killed by the active players. Period. And hence, not all kills are equal. Need more reasons?
In RB, early spawn-killing (definitely not a fair-play attitude) can be indeed effective when properly done but still suffers from the same drawbacks as in AB if you go too soon to enemy spawn. Also, remember that if your team is losing – partly because you did not help where the fight is actually taking place, the enemy will not be spawning... as they are not dying... Unfortunately, the new (cheap) spawning points system tends to encourage (early) spawn-killing...
To combat early spawn-killing in RB, your team must be careful to monitor access to the spawn-killers' favorite spots (especially on some maps like Ardennes or Maginot Line), and you must mark them on the map if you have spotted some... especially if one of them killed you... Do not hesitate to change spawn, if the map has several. As for the late/final collective spawn-killing in a completely one-sided battle with an agonizing losing team stuck in their spawn... who cares (see the AB case above)?

In SB, because of the increased size of several maps, the limited number of tank spawns, and the smaller teams, early spawn-killing is usually totally useless (and, again, definitely not in the spirit of the game) and late spawn-killing may only serve to finish off an agonizing enemy, like in AB (although much less justified/effective than in AB because of the smaller team and fewer respawns).

 

Make friends and squad up: of course, when you play in a squad with in-game (or real!) friends, you are able to better coordinate your efforts and strategy. 4 players of the same level will do better in a squad, but only if they take the opportunity of communicating to apply the simple tips listed above. So "friend" people of comparable skill level as you who did well in a battle, who assisted you, or whom you assisted during the game. Squad up with them if they wish. In a sense, be the recruiter of your own squadron (that's how I started squadron JOB and still recruit new players)! A bit of showing off with these two videos where JOB squads achieved 38 kills (squad of 3) and 40 kills (squad of 4) in tank AB.

 

Conclusion: I hear many players complaining that they were in a stupid team and that there was nothing to do to win the battle. Sure, that happens sometimes. Still, there is no doubt that a single good tanker playing any nation can have a big or even huge impact on a battle, and consistently present win rates well above 50% in AB, RB, and SB ground battles. So, if your current monthly win rate is still below 55% in any tank mode you play, it is likely that you are not fully exploiting some of the above tips.


A word about cheaters: cheaters are a plague for all honest players and the game itself, and I personally do not understand where they derive their unhealthy pleasure. Before suspecting any illegal action, one must first be aware of the "hacks" that exist and those that simply do not exist. Let's say it straight away, and as repeated many times by Gaijin, hacks making shells ricochet on your tank, or increasing the penetration of your shells or the speed of your tank, or letting you shoot through impenetrable objects for others, or reducing your repair or reloading time simply do not exist. All these aspects are directly managed by Gaijin's servers and not by your client. The most used hacks are aimbots/wall-hacks that allow seeing enemies that you are not supposed to be able to see and which provide assistance for long-range shooting, although without being able to help to aim at tank weak spots. These hacks are of little interest in AB (except for some "miraculous" long distance shots) but have a huge impact in RB/SB, since enemies, at least those in your environment, will show some kind of markers. See this link and this link for more information from Gaijin on cheating and their fight against it.
What if you suspect a player of cheating? First, never tell someone that he is a cheater: if you're right, report him instead (see below) and do not warn him that he is on your watch list, the surprise of his ban will be even bigger; if you are wrong and just displayed your frustration at having met a skilled opponent, you are ridiculous and behaving like a complete n00b. If you suspect a player of cheating, watch the replay in question (by switching on player markers) on Gaijin's server only by selecting the player's view (button "2"; you may also try low graphical settings as some players use ULQ, because, of course, they have a computer from 1995...), because your replay on your client is not reliable at all (let alone the in-game kill-cam which just shows a very crude depiction of the kill; simply never trust the latter). If your suspicions are confirmed, look at some other replays of the player to be sure. In RB/SB, where these cheaters are the most numerous (and the easiest to identify), see if the player anticipates the motion of opponents without having been able to spot or hear them at all before (too timely rotation of his turret and/or switch to gunner view), and if he can spot distant opponents very quickly without a convincing search (using gunner view and/or binoculars). If you are now sure, report the player (preferably, for all replays that you have identified as suspicious) by indicating the time of the first cheating. You have to fill your report with a brief text where you will specify the nature of
the cheating
and other critical moments in the replay. Happy hunting... but without acting like a n00b! By the way, do not hesitate to read the post about combat etiquette in this section of the forum!

Cheers and thanks for sharing your thoughts!

 

No_Camping
“Commander” of squadron =JOB= (see JOB's profile on this forum and on ThunderSkill.com )
My credentials: typically 75% global win rates in ground AB/RB/SB (2 years playing completely alone; 3 years playing ¾ of my battles in squads), with 35000+/4500+/350+ battles there. I play all nations at all BR, even the "bad" tanks including 18000+ battles in Tier 5-7 with more than 90% of all the tanks in the game fully spaded.

 

 

A short video illustrating 11 of the above tips: ground AB at BR 8.0 on the Korea/38th Parallel map (not "37th", as I say in the video...). This is not a gameplay video, but rather an "attitude-in-game" video...
 

  • Don’t necessarily go first to the cap were everybody goes: at first, our squad went to the connected caps A+B where this battle is simply always won, while most of the other players in both teams initially went to camp/"snipe" above C.
  • Spawn intelligently: after my Maus is destroyed near B, and A+B being secured mostly by our squad of 4 (see the mini-map where my squadmates are in light-blue; I died near the bridge in front of B), I decide to go to C.
  • Mind the caps: my objective is clearly to capture C, not to camp/snipe...
  • Watch your f...ing map: the map shows the location of many enemy campers, and that of a courageous enemy Maus blocking/scaring our players camping above C.
  • Learn the critical spots of a map (and how to get there fast): exploiting the terrain (rocks) and the speed of my tank, there are two main ways to go fast from spawn to C without any trouble from enemy campers (which makes this systematic camping stalemate in C quite absurd) . I chose the less safe one as the Maus is blocking my alternative route.
  • Move and be (re)active: after dying near B, I go to C, uncap it, kill the Maus (with a bit of initial luck), and finally cap C... all this in 2 minutes!.
  • Use in-game messages: as I am approaching the Maus, I invite my teammates camping above C to "follow meeee!", with a mixed result, but...
  • Lead by example: as I rush to C and start fighting the Maus, my teammates finally decide to abandon their camping position and to help me with the Maus!
  • Learn about the tanks: after the Maus is disabled, the final blow is given by a single shot in the ammo rack (shooting at this spot on its left rear often one-shot kills a Maus) .
  • Spawn-killing: as the enemy team is agonizing, I consider that there is no shame in shortening their suffering as we dutifully do later in this battle.
  • Make friends and squad up : a good strategy is easier to implement when playing in a squad. Yet, a single player can have a huge impact in a battle, and a squad of 4 players not following the simple tips of this tutorial will simply not. Our squad finally took the 4 top spots of the team (playing German (x2), Russian, and British tanks) with a total of 20 kills and all three caps captured by us (JOB record in a 4-man squad is 41 kills in AB out of the 48 potential targets, with the rest of the team gathering... 2 kills).

 

 

A full game video illustrating the above tips: ground AB at BR 10.0 on the Mozdok map (Conquest)
Our 2-player squad essentially won this battle almost alone: 13+7=20 tanks + 2 helicopters killed; the only cap (re) taken 1+3=4 times; the rest of our team painfully gathered 7 kills and 0 cap, mostly camping and killed in spawn by two active enemy players (but who forgot to "mind the cap")... This video perfectly illustrates the fact that, even in Tier 6 ground games, the few active players in both teams are the ones who actually decide of the outcome of the battle, while most of the other players are just cannon fodders. It belongs to you to chose which type of player you wish to be or become.

 

 

A full game video illustrating the above tips along with more strategic tips: ground AB at BR 6.3 on the Finland domination map

This video is also featured on my other tutorial "Strategic tips for difficult ground battle maps" and also illustrates how you can exploit the mobility of your tank

 

A full game video illustrating the above tips along with more strategic tips: ground AB at BR 10.3 on the Abandoned factory domination map

This video is also featured on my other tutorial "Strategic tips for difficult ground battle maps" and also addresses the issue of spawn-killing (by the enemy team!) and the fact that a good tanker never gives up the fight!

 

 

A full game video illustrating the above tips along with more strategic tips: ground AB at BR 7.0 on the Berlin map (conquest, for a change)

This video is also featured on my other tutorial "Strategic tips for difficult ground battle maps" and addresses the problems with too passive camping and advertises the Lorraine 40t, one of my very favorite tanks (see my review on French tanks pinned on the forum )

 

 

 

But.... i have fun by getting a lot of kills or at least not dying a lot. Like a couple kills per match with one or two deaths is pretty fun. But if I go and get 11 kill streak with the Churchill Mk. I, that’s where I have the most fun. Another thing, most teams I play with don’t communicate at all and it sucks.

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As much as I would like to use these tips in battle, I most likely won't since I just forget everything when I'm battling lol, but I can see this helping a lot

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16 hours ago, Godzilla_Kirito said:

As much as I would like to use these tips in battle, I most likely won't since I just forget everything when I'm battling lol, but I can see this helping a lot

@Godzilla_Kirito I found out that it is a good practice (especially when I was starting the game, but still now) after a battle, to pause a few seconds and think about what just happened before going in the next battle...

- If the game was excellent: what were the decisive moves? In which part of the map did I fought? Why the enemy team did screw up?

- If I had a very bad game: In which part of the map did I fought? Did I take stupid routes? How did I die? Did I repeat the same mistake(s) again?

 

And ultimately try to remember those stuffs...
Do not hesitate to check out my YouTube channel, which is focused on strategy for ground maps!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPXsOMjFipImh5KaJ7et2bQ

 

 

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On 12/02/2022 at 16:16, No_Camping said:

@Godzilla_Kirito I found out that it is a good practice (especially when I was starting the game, but still now) after a battle, to pause a few seconds and think about what just happened before going in the next battle...

- If the game was excellent: what were the decisive moves? In which part of the map did I fought? Why the enemy team did screw up?

- If I had a very bad game: In which part of the map did I fought? Did I take stupid routes? How did I die? Did I repeat the same mistake(s) again?

Yeah. I just started RB on Friday, it worked the one time I did remember it. The other times i was just heading to a cap point and fighting for my life. I'll remember extra piece of advice. Also, any tips for air arcade?

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After tonight I would say the best way  to maximize your impact in tank battles and improve your win rate is not to implement a 300% RP Booster . It really is Putin's Handshake :D 

I cant pen a Russian tank from  the side at 100m with M36 90mm Cannon  ,that's when you know its time to give up .I would love to see that in a video ;) 

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11 hours ago, Godzilla_Kirito said:

Also, any tips for air arcade?

:burned:You mean flying planes??? Nah, sorry, I am a pure tanker!

(and I hate air AB where we have to kill AIs to win and where we have essentially a virtually infinite number of spawns)

 

For pure dogfighting, you may have a look at flip and Book3ends channels and other eRekt/[100]/GOD players. They have the reputation to air-spawncamp... but they are anyway the best pilots in the game in AB (and also very good in RB). They don't give a damn about killing AIs: they just kill humans :lol2:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC1B6GQHdbP_z8o9ya0sUeg

https://www.youtube.com/c/flip100

 

Let me also advertise the nice channel of my friend Spectra21, one of the very best French RB player (and very good in AB too) and probably the best French RB pilot with Leandrys (they always play together). Both are in the top 30 players in RB in the game, in terms of win rate.

He makes great uncommented videos, and I was personally amazed by his recent videos where he caps zones with planes in RB.

https://www.youtube.com/user/kimono93kaloula

 

10 hours ago, EddieVanHalo@live said:

After tonight I would say the best way  to maximize your impact in tank battles and improve your win rate is not to implement a 300% RP Booster

The dreaded booster curse! :crying:

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What a high-quality guide, well done @No_Camping. I wish I had found your post sooner, that could have saved me hours of trials and errors. I've played this game for God knows how long and I am now at a place where I can perform highly efficient at mid-high tier. I'd like to add to your post:

 

- When you are getting the hang of it, start customizing your controls, use custom sights and camouflages, etc. Make the game more enjoyable by exploring usually looked over features.

- With enough time learning how to play and reflecting on your matches, you will eventually become a veteran player. However, veteran players will stumble and get losing streaks now and then, and don't feel too bad about it. You're not a terrible player, your performance isn't dropping, your boosters didn't curse you. No, it's simply that people lose all the time!

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On 09/07/2022 at 10:53, SarisKun said:

What a high-quality guide, well done @No_Camping. I wish I had found your post sooner, that could have saved me hours of trials and errors. I've played this game for God knows how long and I am now at a place where I can perform highly efficient at mid-high tier. I'd like to add to your post:

 

- When you are getting the hang of it, start customizing your controls, use custom sights and camouflages, etc. Make the game more enjoyable by exploring usually looked over features.

- With enough time learning how to play and reflecting on your matches, you will eventually become a veteran player. However, veteran players will stumble and get losing streaks now and then, and don't feel too bad about it. You're not a terrible player, your performance isn't dropping, your boosters didn't curse you. No, it's simply that people lose all the time!

Thanks for your kind comment! Yes, this game has a steep learning curve...
Do not hesitate to check out my YouTube channel, which is focused on strategy for ground maps!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPXsOMjFipImh5KaJ7et2bQ

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If you only want to have a high win rate — just play in the squad with voice, really. But if you want to become a good player - that's a different story. Two mediocre players with voice can have a WR of 60%+. Two good players - 75%+. Three good players - 90%+. Who you consider a good player? The one who has a high Kill per Death ratio. Why? Because if you learned maps, timings, vehicles' weak spots, if you are realising your vehicle's strengths and playing around enemy's weaknesses, if your aim is good — your K/D ratio just can't be low. If you make more kills than the average player, then your WR will be higher as well. Simple logic, right? 

 

I don't know the situation with AB, but as for RB I disagree with some of your points (I went straight to them tbh):

1) Capturing point. Cap them only if it really matters. It is a waste of time in most cases. You could use this time to take a better position to stop the next wave of advancing enemies. Just uncapping it usually is enough. Let your teammates to cap it, if there are any;

2) Blocking spawn (aka spawn camping). How is cutting opponent's reinforcements not important? Rare are the cases when spawn blocking is inappropriate, even in early game. After winning at one direction and seeing that your mates have some troubles at other points you can go and try to help them directly, most probably dying as the result, or you can block enemy spawn, pretty much securing your victory at that one direction, while also cutting reinforcements for other ones (a lot of maps with two spawn points allows you to block both using one position). So you are ending up with an advantage on battlefield. Only if your team plays really bad you can lose. But let's be honest, in this case, any tactic is more likely to fail than to succeed, at least if you play alone.

 

Other points seems alright after my quick and lazy reading. I would add the use of teammates as exchange material and a source of information about the threat / position of the enemy. It may be cruel and selfish, but will help you to stay alive and thus have more chances to win.

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On 05/11/2022 at 01:58, GreedusTN said:

If you only want to have a high win rate — just play in the squad with voice, really. But if you want to become a good player - that's a different story. Two mediocre players with voice can have a WR of 60%+. Two good players - 75%+. Three good players - 90%+. Who you consider a good player? The one who has a high Kill per Death ratio. Why? Because if you learned maps, timings, vehicles' weak spots, if you are realising your vehicle's strengths and playing around enemy's weaknesses, if your aim is good — your K/D ratio just can't be low. If you make more kills than the average player, then your WR will be higher as well. Simple logic, right? 

 

I don't know the situation with AB, but as for RB I disagree with some of your points (I went straight to them tbh):

1) Capturing point. Cap them only if it really matters. It is a waste of time in most cases. You could use this time to take a better position to stop the next wave of advancing enemies. Just uncapping it usually is enough. Let your teammates to cap it, if there are any;

2) Blocking spawn (aka spawn camping). How is cutting opponent's reinforcements not important? Rare are the cases when spawn blocking is inappropriate, even in early game. After winning at one direction and seeing that your mates have some troubles at other points you can go and try to help them directly, most probably dying as the result, or you can block enemy spawn, pretty much securing your victory at that one direction, while also cutting reinforcements for other ones (a lot of maps with two spawn points allows you to block both using one position). So you are ending up with an advantage on battlefield. Only if your team plays really bad you can lose. But let's be honest, in this case, any tactic is more likely to fail than to succeed, at least if you play alone.

 

Other points seems alright after my quick and lazy reading. I would add the use of teammates as exchange material and a source of information about the threat / position of the enemy. It may be cruel and selfish, but will help you to stay alive and thus have more chances to win.


As for the 1st point about caps, I am sorry to say that I strongly disagree... With more experience, you'll realize that so many games (even with fewer players left in your teams) could have been won with a greater focus on caps (by the way, we are a dozen in JOB in the top 30 players with 90%+ monthly win rate in ground RB, and I can tell you we do focus on caps)...

As for your second point, there is a big difference between early pure spawn-camping, which is rather ineffective (you are often marked on the map – red zone – and usually isolated), and covering the routes from where enemies coming out from their spawn will probably come out. The latter is indeed effective on some maps, but certainly not on all.

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