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[*GLITCH-JEDI 13]

Largest Bristish Flying Boat World War 2 Era

I'm a big fan off Unique Vehicles off the world war 2 era as the industrial push for bigger and better was happening at a rapid pace. 

The Short Shetland was a British high-speed, long-range, four-engined flying boat built by Shorts Brothers at Rochester and Belfast for use in the Second World War. It was designed to meet an Air Ministry requirement for a very-long range flying boat. The design used the company's experience with large scale production of the Short Sunderland. The end of World War 2 prevented the Shetland from entering Mass production , although 2 protypes where produced , though it did have the distinction of being the first aircraft designed with a 110 Volt electrical system.

S.35 Shetland
Role	Reconnaissance flying boat
Manufacturer	Short Brothers
First flight	14 December 1944
Number built	2

 

Design and development

Specification R.14/40 replaced an earlier specification R.5/39 which was an up-armed revision of specification R.3/38 for a faster flying boat than the Short Sunderland among others, had tendered a design for R.5/39 but the Ministry had changed their minds about the need for an immediate replacement for the Sunderland. R.5/39 had considered a maximum weight up to 84,000 lb (38,102 kg) – R.14/40 allowed for a maximum takeoff of nearly 100,000 lb (45,359 kg) with a bomb load of 20,000 lb (9,072 kg). The projected engines were the Bristol Centaurus radial or the Napier Sabre inline.

Shorts and the other British manufacturer of big flying boats, Saunders-Roe (Saro), were involved in the competitive tender for R.14/40; Saro proposed the Saunders-Roe S.41. Rather than selecting either company's design, the Air Ministry asked the companies to submit a combined project, stipulating the terms under which the work was to be shared between them. The detailed design was performed by Saro, their experience with the "Shrimp" contributing to the hull shape, as well as building the wing. Shorts built the hull and tail and the final assembly.

 

 

Variants

Short S.35 Shetland 

The first prototype and what was to be the only Shetland I (Serial Number DX166) first flew on 14 December 1944, piloted by Shorts' Chief Test Pilot John Lankester Parker as captain and Geoffrey Tyson as co-pilot.^[1] The aircraft flew without gun turrets (its role having been revised to that of unarmed transport before its maiden flight^[2]); it was delivered to the Marine Aircraft Experimental Establishment (MAEE) at Felixstowe in October 1945. Testing indicated satisfactory water handling but the stabilising floats were mounted too low and did not offer sufficient clearance for takeoffs with maximum load.^[3] Flight testing revealed problems with the harmonization of controls and marginal longitudinal stability. Before the trials were complete, the aircraft burnt out at its moorings on 28 January 1946 as a result of a galley fire.

Short S.40 Shetland II

With the end of the war, the second prototype (Serial Number DX171) was completed as a civil transport and designated Shetland II. It was designed to carry 70 passengers but only 40 seats were fitted. Registered "G-AGVD," the Shetland Mk. II's first flight took place on 17 September 1947. After trials, it was delivered to Short's factory at BELFAST, but no orders were forthcoming and it performed only limited flight trials before being scrapped in 1951.

 

 

Specifications (S.35)

 

General characteristics

• Crew: 11
• Length: 110 ft 0 in (33.54 m)
• Wingspan: 150 ft 4 in (45.83 m)
• Height: 37 ft 0 in (11.28 m)
• Wing area: 2,624 ft² (243.9 m²)
• Empty weight: 75,860 lb (34,481 kg)
• Loaded weight: 120,000 lb ^[5] (54,545 kg)
• Max. takeoff weight: 125,000 lb (56,818 kg)
• Powerplant: 4 × Bristol Centaurus VII 18-cylinder air-cooled radial engine, 2,500 hp (1,864 kW) each

Performance

• Maximum speed: 263 mph (229 knots, 423 km/h)
• Cruise speed: 183 mph (159 knots, 295 km/h)
• Range: 4,000 mi (3,478 nmi, 6,440 km)
• Endurance: 25 hr 50 min
• Service ceiling: 17,000 ft^[5] (5,182 m)
• Rate of climb: 900 ft/min (4.6 m/s)

Armament

• Guns: (as planned)
  • Three turrets, each with 2 × 0.5 in (12.7 mm) Browning machine guns in nose, mid-upper and tail positions, and 1× 0.5 in machine guns in port and starboard beam positions
• Bombs: Up to 4,000 lb (1,800 kg) of bombs or depth charges

 

Edited September 25, 2017 by *GLITCH-JEDI
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[Spuds_McHaggis 899]

5 minutes ago, *GLITCH-JEDI said:

Largest Bristish Flying Boat World War 2 Era

 

The Short Shetland was a British high-speed, long-range, four-engined flying boat built by Short Brothers at Rochester, Kent for use in the Second World War. It was designed to meet an Air Ministry requirement (defined in Specification R.14/40) for a very-long range reconnaissance flying boat. The design used the company's experience with large scale production of the Short Sunderland. The end of World War II prevented the Shetland from entering production, though it did have the distinction of being the first aircraft designed with a 110 Volt electrical system.

S.35 Shetland
Role	Reconnaissance flying boat
Manufacturer	Short Brothers
First flight	14 December 1944
Number built	2

 

Design and development

Specification R.14/40 replaced an earlier specification R.5/39 which was an up-armed revision of specification R.3/38 for a faster flying boat than the Short Sunderland. Shorts, among others, had tendered a design for R.5/39 but the Ministry had changed their minds about the need for an immediate replacement for the Sunderland. R.5/39 had considered a maximum weight up to 84,000 lb (38,102 kg) – R.14/40 allowed for a maximum takeoff of nearly 100,000 lb (45,359 kg) with a bomb load of 20,000 lb (9,072 kg). The projected engines were the Bristol Centaurus radial or the Napier Sabre inline.

Shorts and the other British manufacturer of big flying boats, Saunders-Roe (Saro), were involved in the competitive tender for R.14/40; Saro proposed the Saunders-Roe S.41. Rather than selecting either company's design, the Air Ministry asked the companies to submit a combined project, stipulating the terms under which the work was to be shared between them. The detailed design was performed by Saro, their experience with the "Shrimp" contributing to the hull shape, as well as building the wing. Shorts built the hull and tail and the final assembly.

 

 

VariantsEdit

Short S.35 Shetland IEdit

The first prototype and what was to be the only Shetland I (Serial Number DX166) first flew on 14 December 1944, piloted by Shorts' Chief Test Pilot John Lankester Parker as captain and Geoffrey Tyson as co-pilot.^[1] The aircraft flew without gun turrets (its role having been revised to that of unarmed transport before its maiden flight^[2]); it was delivered to the Marine Aircraft Experimental Establishment (MAEE) at Felixstowe in October 1945. Testing indicated satisfactory water handling but the stabilising floats were mounted too low and did not offer sufficient clearance for takeoffs with maximum load.^[3] Flight testing revealed problems with the harmonization of controls and marginal longitudinal stability. Before the trials were complete, the aircraft burnt out at its moorings on 28 January 1946 as a result of a galley fire.

Short S.40 Shetland IIEdit

With the end of the war, the second prototype (Serial Number DX171) was completed as a civil transport and designated Shetland II. It was designed to carry 70 passengers but only 40 seats were fitted. Registered "G-AGVD," the Shetland Mk. II's first flight took place on 17 September 1947. After trials, it was delivered to Short's factory at Belfast, but no orders were forthcoming and it performed only limited flight trials before being scrapped in 1951.

 

 

Specifications (S.35)Edit

Data from British Flying Boats^[4]

General characteristics

• Crew: 11
• Length: 110 ft 0 in (33.54 m)
• Wingspan: 150 ft 4 in (45.83 m)
• Height: 37 ft 0 in (11.28 m)
• Wing area: 2,624 ft² (243.9 m²)
• Empty weight: 75,860 lb (34,481 kg)
• Loaded weight: 120,000 lb ^[5] (54,545 kg)
• Max. takeoff weight: 125,000 lb (56,818 kg)
• Powerplant: 4 × Bristol Centaurus VII 18-cylinder air-cooled radial engine, 2,500 hp (1,864 kW) each

Performance

• Maximum speed: 263 mph (229 knots, 423 km/h)
• Cruise speed: 183 mph (159 knots, 295 km/h)
• Range: 4,000 mi (3,478 nmi, 6,440 km)
• Endurance: 25 hr 50 min
• Service ceiling: 17,000 ft^[5] (5,182 m)
• Rate of climb: 900 ft/min (4.6 m/s)

Armament

• Guns: (as planned)
  • Three turrets, each with 2 × 0.5 in (12.7 mm) Browning machine guns in nose, mid-upper and tail positions, and 1× 0.5 in machine guns in port and starboard beam positions
• Bombs: Up to 4,000 lb (1,800 kg) of bombs or depth charges

 

 

Another copy and paste from Wikipedia.

 

No original content again!

[Josephs_Piano 7,044]

On 9/22/2017 at 10:04 PM, Mowie said:

 

Another copy and paste from Wikipedia.

 

No original content again!

 

did you need to requote the whole thing??

 

Anyway - the shame of it is that one of the links on the wiki page is to plans for the plane - that would have been interesting:

 

Edited September 24, 2017 by Josephs_Piano

[Spuds_McHaggis 899]

11 hours ago, Josephs_Piano said:

did you need to requote the whole thing??

 

Yes I did otherwise if they edited their post my post would have made no sense at all!

[Josephs_Piano 7,044]

1 hour ago, Mowie said:

 

Yes I did otherwise if they edited their post my post would have made no sense at all!

 

No - you didn't - 'cos if they edited their post you could have edited yours too....  just a waste of space and repeating their error....

[Spuds_McHaggis 899]

14 minutes ago, Josephs_Piano said:

 

No - you didn't - 'cos if they edited their post you could have edited yours too....  just a waste of space and repeating their error....

 

Really? So you know what I am thinking do you. Go troll else where.

[*GLITCH-JEDI 13]

Thank you for your concerns about "Copy Paste" . It's a theme off the modern age off computing . I did search all current topics for mention off the Shorts Shetland and their was no topic on the largest British flying boat.  Regardless off my sources the topic is pointing out that Short Shetland has an opportunity to fly in the skies in war thunder and compared to current vehicles in war thunder has justifiable reasons to be a valid flying boat in the British tech tree with its intended armaments.  I take note off your concerns off my "copy paste " but I ensure you that I don't spam and don't copy paste anything which I feel hasn't already been highlighted in the war thunder community. 

[*GLITCH-JEDI 13]

14 hours ago, Josephs_Piano said:

 

did you need to requote the whole thing??

 

Anyway - the shame of it is that one of the links on the wiki page is to plans for the plane - that would have been interesting:

 

Great additional information and by "copy paste " like myself.  I started the Shetland topic only to raise a debate if it should be considered for development in the game. I'm glad that you engaged in the debate with useful information that brings positivity to the information on the Shorts Shetland . 

[Mercedes4321 4,695]

12 hours ago, *GLITCH-JEDI said:

I started the Shetland topic only to raise a debate if it should be considered for development in the game

Isn't that what the Suggestion section is for?