Stop Nerfing the players who do the objectives

[Renamed_Awesome 36]

I'm an experienced player who is currently 5th in the world for win percentage at over 98% and 33rd for average relative position at over 96%.  I play for the win and do the objectives.  However you are ruining the game by nerfing according to stats in an effort to even out the game.  Every bullet that touches my plane kills me and a lot of the time they don't have to hit my plane to 1 shot me, if their stats are bad.  Many times low level players or those with win rates in the 50% and below range will shoot their tracers way off mark, extremely wide left or right and still 1 shot me.  I now can't hit planes as they consistently fly straight through my gunfire, with the black indicator spinning around, indicating that I'm hitting them, and I'l get nothing.  Not even a hit.  These players will flip over, get on me as my plane suddenly refuses to turn while just hanging in the air, and they one shot me.  It's insane and impossible, yet it happens game after game.  If you're going to ruin the game for the better players in an effort to "even out" matches, then at least man up and admit to us that you've screwed us over, and kindly refund the money we've spent.  Because, you've taken away what we paid you for.  After spending a lot of money on crews, planes and flying premium for over 4 years, you have ruined the game for me instead of expecting less skilled players to get better. It's shameful and dishonest.  Again, kindly stop the nerfing or refund my money and, at the very least, own up to it.  Also, every player with high level stats knows you're doing it so it's not the secret you think it is.

[_Cyanure_ 133]

Hi,

 

I am far away from you, regarding the level and the results, but may I ask you a replay, please ? It will be very interesting.

[blastedryan 967]

It's quite fitting that your title is "Cannon fodder"

[det1380@psn 122]

28 minutes ago, Renamed_Awesome said:

These players will flip over, get on me as my plane suddenly refuses to turn while just hanging in the air, and they one shot me.  It's insane and impossible, yet it happens game after game

 

Don't stall your plane out and keep an eye on your speed.  The slower you go the more an enemy can keep guns on you and get more shots on target.  Even the worst pilots would shoot you down in that position.  No nerfing is going on here.  Just be more aware of what planes are around you and plan your bombing runs a little more to avoid so much fire.

[TaCoBomB 943]

34 minutes ago, Renamed_Awesome said:

I'm an experienced player who is currently 5th in the world for win percentage at over 98% and 33rd for average relative position at over 96%.  I play for the win and do the objectives.  However you are ruining the game by nerfing according to stats in an effort to even out the game.  Every bullet that touches my plane kills me and a lot of the time they don't have to hit my plane to 1 shot me, if their stats are bad.  Many times low level players or those with win rates in the 50% and below range will shoot their tracers way off mark, extremely wide left or right and still 1 shot me.  I now can't hit planes as they consistently fly straight through my gunfire, with the black indicator spinning around, indicating that I'm hitting them, and I'l get nothing.  Not even a hit.  These players will flip over, get on me as my plane suddenly refuses to turn while just hanging in the air, and they one shot me.  It's insane and impossible, yet it happens game after game.  If you're going to ruin the game for the better players in an effort to "even out" matches, then at least man up and admit to us that you've screwed us over, and kindly refund the money we've spent.  Because, you've taken away what we paid you for.  After spending a lot of money on crews, planes and flying premium for over 4 years, you have ruined the game for me instead of expecting less skilled players to get better. It's shameful and dishonest.  Again, kindly stop the nerfing or refund my money and, at the very least, own up to it.  Also, every player with high level stats knows you're doing it so it's not the secret you think it is.

 

Yeah man stats are everything. If someone with a 40% winrate kills you it's definitely the game's fault and not yours. I mean how can a scrub with such low winrate kill an ace like you. You must feel very proud of your winrate...

[Renamed_Awesome 36]

blastedryan, that's why I have it! 

*det1380, it doesn't happen until they get close to me, and my plane doesn't slow down at first, it locks up.  Then it instantly slows down, defying physics.  IT's an instant change in flight characteristics depending on the level of the player attacking me.  Believe me, I'm well aware of about slow moving targets along with maintaining airspeed.  I'm not stalling out my plane, my plane is losing it's flight controls.  But, after looking at your 50's win percentage, I wouldn't expect you to understand.  You're on the benefiting side of this discussion.

 

[sardinha08@psn 3,179]

This is not 1.59 anymore. 

[AtomicDorito 31]

Even with 70000 Arcade battles, you don't understand the game. I can only hope this is some kind of joke.

Edited January 9, 2018 by AtomicDorito

[Goofy776@psn 47]

If your winrate is that high? Pliiiiz may i squad up with u so my winrate can increase some too??

 

[_Volacious_ 16]

11 minutes ago, AtomicDorito said:

Even with 70000 Arcade battles, you don't understand the game. I can only hope this is some kind of joke.

This is what happens when being "good" at the game involves diving and pressing spacebar.

[det1380@psn 122]

35 minutes ago, Renamed_Awesome said:

*det1380, it doesn't happen until they get close to me, and my plane doesn't slow down at first, it locks up.  Then it instantly slows down, defying physics.  IT's an instant change in flight characteristics depending on the level of the player attacking me.  Believe me, I'm well aware of about slow moving targets along with maintaining airspeed.  I'm not stalling out my plane, my plane is losing it's flight controls.  But, after looking at your 50's win percentage, I wouldn't expect you to understand.  You're on the benefiting side of this discussion.

 

Hey buddy, i just tried to give you advice.  I didn't knock your abysmal fighter stats.  Or your lack of ability to deal with other fighter pilots.  As far as win rates, anyone who spams planes with bombs is going to get a higher than average win rate.  Your ability to understand how aerial combat works is the issue here, not some conspiracy theory about how the game is singling you out.  I focus on fighter to fighter combat.  Sure i can hit space bar when i need to but I play the game to shoot down enemy planes.  Looks like if I see you I can have a few free kills   Anyways, planes fly and handle differently at different speeds.  Learn what those are.  And don't say you already know, because you would not have made this thread if you did.

[Tigerspook 315]

Oh damn, I am in the no-man's-land between "not good enough for the game to cheat me" and "not bad enough for the game to cheat for me". Whatever shall I do?

 

 

[TheBlackRaven91 3]

1 hour ago, Renamed_Awesome said:

I'm an experienced player who is currently 5th in the world for win percentage at over 98% and 33rd for average relative position at over 96%.  I play for the win and do the objectives.  However you are ruining the game by nerfing according to stats in an effort to even out the game.  Every bullet that touches my plane kills me and a lot of the time they don't have to hit my plane to 1 shot me, if their stats are bad.  Many times low level players or those with win rates in the 50% and below range will shoot their tracers way off mark, extremely wide left or right and still 1 shot me.  I now can't hit planes as they consistently fly straight through my gunfire, with the black indicator spinning around, indicating that I'm hitting them, and I'l get nothing.  Not even a hit.  These players will flip over, get on me as my plane suddenly refuses to turn while just hanging in the air, and they one shot me.  It's insane and impossible, yet it happens game after game.  If you're going to ruin the game for the better players in an effort to "even out" matches, then at least man up and admit to us that you've screwed us over, and kindly refund the money we've spent.  Because, you've taken away what we paid you for.  After spending a lot of money on crews, planes and flying premium for over 4 years, you have ruined the game for me instead of expecting less skilled players to get better. It's shameful and dishonest.  Again, kindly stop the nerfing or refund my money and, at the very least, own up to it.  Also, every player with high level stats knows you're doing it so it's not the secret you think it is.

Interesting claim, but do you have any evidence of such anomalies in the game's programming files? Or even at the minimum some recordings or replay files to share? It sounds to me like you are experiencing latency due to peer to peer connection issues with certain individual players. It is practically impossible for Gaijin to manipulate the client side controls for each individual player going by rank or win rate. Please educate yourself on these things before posting such grave claims. Otherwise you are just wasting our time, and your own.

[Touched_Grass 758]

1 hour ago, Renamed_Awesome said:

Every bullet that touches my plane kills me and a lot of the time they don't have to hit my plane to 1 shot me, if their stats are bad.

Hey man, just for your information, if a bullet hits your plane, you're supposed to end up like this:

I don't suppose you've noticed the number of times in your 70,000 games where a bullet hit you and this didn't happen? No, you're just coming to the forums to whine and complain like 99% of the players do. Learn to play. If you're actually one of the top players in the world, you'll figure out how to win and survive. I said it once before, and I'll say it again:

 

GIT GUD

[SneakySausage 786]

1 minute ago, TheBlackRaven91 said:

Interesting claim, but do you have any evidence of such anomalies in the game's programming files? Or even at the minimum some recordings or replay files to share? It sounds to me like you are experiencing latency due to peer to peer connection issues with certain individual players. It is practically impossible for Gaijin to manipulate the client side controls for each individual player going by rank or win rate. Please educate yourself on these things before posting such grave claims. Otherwise you are just wasting our time, and your own.

Server side him to server. Peer to server won't matter 

[Stona_WT 72,761]

1 hour ago, Renamed_Awesome said:

I'm an experienced player who is currently 5th in the world for win percentage at over 98% and 33rd for average relative position at over 96%.  I play for the win and do the objectives.  

 

Glad to have you here! And it's great that you play for objectives. At the end of the day, playing for objectives = playing for the win

 

1 hour ago, Renamed_Awesome said:

 However you are ruining the game by nerfing according to stats in an effort to even out the game.  Every bullet that touches my plane kills me and a lot of the time they don't have to hit my plane to 1 shot me, if their stats are bad.  Many times low level players or those with win rates in the 50% and below range will shoot their tracers way off mark, extremely wide left or right and still 1 shot me.  I now can't hit planes as they consistently fly straight through my gunfire, with the black indicator spinning around, indicating that I'm hitting them, and I'l get nothing.  Not even a hit.

 

I have huge doubts here. We do not nerf or boost players, so you are missing the point here.

And it's not like "every battle that touches your aircraft kills you". It's not possible. I would understand, if you would say something like "my pilot die all the time". It would means that you should invest crew points into his vitality and try to point your aircraft in a way that will not allow enemy to shot into your cockpit BUT, your story is different, so if you will be so kind and post a replay (or link a replay to one of your battles where every bullet destroy your aircraft I (and I think that other players also) will appreciate.

 

1 hour ago, Renamed_Awesome said:

These players will flip over, get on me as my plane suddenly refuses to turn while just hanging in the air, and they one shot me.  It's insane and impossible, yet it happens game after game.

 

Again, please show us some evidences. 

 

1 hour ago, Renamed_Awesome said:

 If you're going to ruin the game for the better players in an effort to "even out" matches, then at least man up and admit to us that you've screwed us over, and kindly refund the money we've spent.  Because, you've taken away what we paid you for.  

 

But as I said, we do not ruin the game. And we do not have influence on your aircraft during your battles. You are behind the "wheel". You are the one who control the aircraft.

 

1 hour ago, Renamed_Awesome said:

Because, you've taken away what we paid you for.  After spending a lot of money on crews, planes and flying premium for over 4 years, you have ruined the game for me instead of expecting less skilled players to get better. It's shameful and dishonest.  Again, kindly stop the nerfing or refund my money and, at the very least, own up to it.  Also, every player with high level stats knows you're doing it so it's not the secret you think it is.

 

We took nothing. And you never paid for being indestructible, super agile or for being able to have some aim assist help. We never offered and will never offer such things. You can spend your money on premium vehicles, crew points etc, but it will not gave you any big advantage on standard players who are simply good in piloting aircraft. I am sorry if you feel disappointed, but you should know this. You are a veteran player and as a veteran, you should know such thing have no place in War Thunder.

 

It's nice that you decided to ask for a help on forum and I hope that other players will direct you and help you to become a better pilot. Good luck!

[cashmeowsidehbd 1,269]

Uh.......ya! Nothing going on here, now be on your way.

[Sarin 2,329]

Sometimes, I play for fun, sometimes (usually for events), I play for win. Strangely enough, I don't experience much stuff like you complain about.

 

It sound a lot like despite all your playtime, you haven't quite figured out that in a multiplayer game that is based around many thing going really, really fast, what you see is not exactly what is on server. When playing on ~50 ping, which is really good, a .50 cal bullet will travel around 20 meters in time it takes for signal to get from server to you. That's more than wingspan of the planes you usually fly (on a side note...abusing Stalinbolt and low tier Soviet attacker against reserves and newbies for win rate farming, that's low). 

 

Gaijin might do many things to the game, but from your description, it sounds like you occassionally get ping/packet loss issues. That's usually problem either on your side, or provider's. Watch the numbers in left bottom corner, there's ping/PL meter.

 

Oh by the way, you're not gaming on wi-fi, are you? They can be prone to PL due to disruption.

[EpicBlitzkrieg87 8,350]

I personally don't understand how anyone could call themselves true veterans of this game when for all of their gaming career on WT was on the Ace-friendly and easiest mode in the game (Arcade). But that's just my personal opinion. Anyway...

2 hours ago, Renamed_Awesome said:

Then it instantly slows down, defying physics.  IT's an instant change in flight characteristics depending on the level of the player attacking me.

Physics in Arcade? Those never existed in Arcade in the first place  

Edited January 9, 2018 by EpicBlitzkrieg87

[EpicBlitzkrieg87 8,350]

3 hours ago, Renamed_Awesome said:

Every bullet that touches my plane kills me and a lot of the time they don't have to hit my plane to 1 shot me, if their stats are bad. 

First, stats don't matter. They don't show the player's growth (you can be a horrible pilot in the beginning and end up at the top but with bad stats) and in many cases they can lie about the player's experience (example: farming AI plane kills counts as kills in your stats, yet you actually have no knowledge of how to play properly).

 

Second, I don't think you know what happens when you get shot at...

 

I hope this explains 

 

 

Someone with 70k arcade battles should know what happens when your plane gets hit, right?

[Touched_Grass 758]

1 minute ago, EpicBlitzkrieg87 said:

Second, I don't think you know what happens when you get shot at...

 

I hope this explains

Thanks Mr RB guy, already posted the same thing above bro.

[Sarin 2,329]

Guys....posting pictures of planes shot down by heavy flak doesn't prove anything. I might as well post this as evidence to the contrary:

 

Try to be constructive instead of this next time, okay?

[ChuckYeahgurrr 68]

I was playing objectives and it was really fun until my monthly win rate got over 60% especially in solo.
The teams felt like I was on a middle school coed rec team playing the 1990s Chicago Bulls.
So now I am dog fighting and losing faster than Trump's credibility and it a ton more fun.
I can not imagine a dev team putting in such blatant RNG, even though a tad bit that nobody could see could make some sense to see how it worked.

[Coyote_Kisses 6]

Simple advice: Learn how to git gud and not blame the games physics for your lack of skill! 

Edited January 10, 2018 by Coyote_Kisses

[TRI_COLOR_SMOKE 42]

13 minutes ago, Coyote_Kisses said:

Simple advice: Learn how to git gud and not blame the games physics for your lack of skill! 

Good like your 49% win rate?