tanks/vehicles T-80U: The Soviet Huntress

[WulfPack 1,693]

 

In the early 80s, after NATO unveiled their new generation of MBTs, it was becoming apparent that the T-80 would need a major upgrade to compete.It would receive the designation of Object 219AS and the more recognized T-80U. The “U” comes from the word improved in cyrillic (uluchenny/улучшенный). The main upgrade was going from Kontakt-1 to Kontakt-5. A “heavy” ERA which added protection for both HEAT based munitions and KE. It would alos recive a new 1250 HP gas turbine engine, to accommodate the added weight. Those upgrades and the new FCS would make the T-80U one of the deadliest MBTs built by the Soviet Union.

 

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Size comparisons:-

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T-80U and M1A1

T-80U and BMP-2

T-80U and T-90A

 

Designation:-

T-80U Main Battle Tank

Dimensions:-

Length: 22.9 feet

Length with gun forward: 31.6 feet

Height: 7.1 feet

Width: 11.5 feet

Ground Clearance: 1.4 feet

Crew: 3 (Driver, Gunner, Commander)

Weight: 46 tons

Protection Estimates:-

Kontakt-5 Layout:-

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Turret Front:-

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530 - 570-MM vs KE

Kontakt-5 adds about 150 - 200-MM

550 - 700-MM vs CE

Kontakt-5 adds about 800-MM

Mantle:-

About 350-MM of Steel

Upper Frontal Plate:-

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AW Estimates for the make up

50mm of steel

35mm of textolite

50mm of steel

35mm of textolite

50mm of steel

 

with later ones being

 

55mm of steel

35mm of ceramics

35mm of steel with a 5mm gap

35mm of ceramics

50mm of steel

400-500 vs KE

Kontakt-5 adds about 150 - 200-MM

450-550 vs CE

K-5 adds about 800-MM
Lower Frontal Plate:-

80-MM of Steel

Upper Side Plate:-

80-MM of Steel

Lower Side Plate:-

20-MM of Steel

The front portion of the side is protected with Kontakt-5

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Mobility:-

Engine: GTD-1250 Gas Turbine Outputting 1250 horsepower

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Early models may have had the GTD-1000TF Gas Turbine Outputting 1100 horsepower and Kontakt-1 in place of Kontakt-5 (May be what is incorrectly referred to T-80A)

Top speed: 43.4 mph

Top speed in reverse: 6.8 mph

Firepower:-

125-MM 2A46-1

Munitions:-

3BM-32 ‘Vant’ APFSDS

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Penetration: 430 - 560-MM @ 2K @ 0

Muzzle Velocity: 1700 MPS

3BK-29 HEAT-FS

Penetration: 650-MM @ 0

915 M/S

9M-119 ‘Refleks’ ATGM

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Penetration: 700 - 750-MM

Guidance System: SACLOS Laser

Average Muzzle Velocity: 400 MPS

Maximum Muzzle Velocity: 800 MPS

Range 75-4000 M

Rate of Fire: 6-8 RPM

Ammunition load: 45 in total with 28 in the automatic loader and 17 additional rounds

7.62-MM PKT

Ammunition load: 6 250 round boxes totaling 1500 rounds

Maximum gun angles: -5/+14
Horizontal turret traverse rate: 24 Degs/S

Gun elevation rate: 3.5 Degs/S

12.7-MM NSVT

Maximum gun angles: -15/+85
Ammunition load: 450 in total

The NSVT is Stabilized on both planes

 

Sources:-

http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/

http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/MBT/t-80u_armor.html

https://aw.my.com/us/news/general/development-t-80u

https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/search/label/T-80

http://btvt.narod.ru/4/t-80u.htm

Pictures: http://www.vitalykuzmin.net/

 

 

Edited June 3, 2018 by WulfPack

[Radom 4,245]

Open for discussion.

 

prefix/tag updated 

Edited March 17, 2018 by Radom

[*DragonFire6437 10]

This tank gey

[Smutol 2,730]

Its too soon. ATM we need more tanks of similar performance to those we have at the top now. 

[KapitanRedDead 462]

If this were to be added in game it would just be another time warp terminator and we don't need many more right now.

[nayfas2 1,428]

t80 or t72av at 9.0 and maybe t80bv at 9.3 would be a better choice atm, we need more 9.0-9.3 tanks jump to another step its not wise atm.

[kamikazi21358 998]

The T-80 is literally the number one reason I am playing Russian tanks.  When they added the Leopard 1, I started to get the hit the Gaijin was going Cold War, and once they started adding vehicles from the late 70’s, I knew soviet MBT would come some day.  When they added the T-64A and the MBT/KPz-70, composite armor was opened up as a feature in WT and when I recently saw the devblogs for the T-64B, Abrams, challenger, Leo 2, etc.  people thought ‘OMG M1 ABRAMS’, I thought ‘hehe, only a matter of time now...’

[Admiral_Aruon 2,264]

it'll only be a matter of time so +1 for when that time comes.

 

either this and/or the Ukrainian T-80UD with the weaker but more reliable engine would work.

[dotEXCEL 5,969]

+1 GIB

[dotEXCEL 5,969]

1 hour ago, Admiral_Aruon said:

it'll only be a matter of time so +1 for when that time comes.

 

either this and/or the Ukrainian T-80UD with the weaker but more reliable engine would work.

reliablility is not modeled ingame. otherwise at least 50% of all Chieftains would have a broken engine at the start of every game

[TasteTheTea 3,203]

10 minutes ago, dotEXCEL said:

reliablility is not modeled ingame. otherwise at least 50% of all Chieftains would have a broken engine at the start of every game

Seems to happen already on some maps to be honest 

[Laviduce 1,779]

Sure once:

 

1) tier 7 is a thing. 

2) there are counterparts (i.e. Leopard 2A4, M1A1HA, Challenger 1Mk3, Type 90, Leclerc Serie 1, Ariete).

3) the other newer vehicles have been balanced (via BR!).

[dotEXCEL 5,969]

1 hour ago, Laviduce said:

Sure once:

 

1) tier 7 is a thing. 

2) there are counterparts (i.e. Leopard 2A4, M1A1HA, Challenger 1Mk3, Type 90, Leclerc Serie 1, Ariete).

3) the other newer vehicles have been balanced (via BR!).

you really think Tier 7 will be a thing? i dont thinks so. i think that they will throw everything in T6....

Edited March 17, 2018 by dotEXCEL

[dotEXCEL 5,969]

1 hour ago, Time4Tea said:

Seems to happen already on some maps to be honest 

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[Nope 10,634]

can we wait until modern fcs and regenerative steering

 

because whats the point of a t80u if you cant even use the glorious agava-2 on the t80uk

 

 

this is truly the pride of soviet tank technology and theres nothing you can do to convince me otherwise other than essa

 

imagine having actual visibility at night hot damn play some of that overused disney princess music

[TasteTheTea 3,203]

1 hour ago, dotEXCEL said:

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Sorry, just a cheap jab at the issue of immediate spawn attacking on some maps in this game. I'd just come out of a game on Karelia where my Chieftain had it's engine shot almost immediately after leaving spawn. Nevermind, carry on .

[DINGA_ 302]

2 hours ago, dotEXCEL said:

reliablility is not modeled ingame. otherwise at least 50% of all Chieftains would have a broken engine at the start of every game

 

Reliability was only a issue when you didn't use the tank for long periods, so if they was to model that as long as you drove every day it would be fine. just break down on the 1st game. you just spawn in and you watch your crew dismount throw there head sets off and kick the side skirts as you get a return to garage tab. But guess what Chieftain wouldn't be the only tank to suffer this.

[CoMurey2 131]

I want to play it.

 

[WulfPack 1,693]

5 hours ago, Admiral_Aruon said:

Ukrainian T-80UD with the weaker but more reliable engine would work.

Probably .3 lower than this

3 hours ago, Laviduce said:

Type 90,

Might require something more

1 hour ago, Nope said:

can we wait until modern fcs and regenerative steering

 

because whats the point of a t80u if you cant even use the glorious agava-2 on the t80uk

Maybe she'll get a suggestion in future

[_EQUAI_ 356]

“Soon” +1

[Laviduce 1,779]

3 hours ago, dotEXCEL said:

you really think Tier 7 will be a thing? i dont thinks so. i think that they will throw everything in T6....

If they throw everything into tier 6 they will create a mess. There will be too much powercreep.

Edited March 17, 2018 by Laviduce

[kev2go 5,112]

As an M1A1 counter not exactly.

 

Not unless its the M1A1 HA 

 

 

With the M1A1 that gajin had already teased I think The T-80BV would be a be more balanced opponent. T80U is just kind of hard to balance Given its Protection and Its insane mobility.

Edited April 14, 2018 by kev2go

[Kocyra 5,742]

I mean we will be there by patch 1.82 

[WulfPack 1,693]

10 minutes ago, kev2go said:

As an M1A1 counter no.

 

Not unless its the M1A1 HA and it has M829A2

 

 

With the M1A1 that gajin had already teased T80B and T80BV will be more balanced opponents.

If the T-80U gets the 3BM-46, sure

[Conraire 5,723]

27 minutes ago, WulfPack said:

If the T-80U gets the 3BM-46, sure

 

Had to vote no on this one.  If it'd been the T-80B or BV I would of probably voted yes.  As those would be more evenly balanced versus the M1 Abrams or M1A1. 

 

Sadly once you get past M829 with the 120... the ammo goes nuts.  So even M829A1 would be hard to balance against.  Even 3bm46 doesn't compare well to M829A1, from the information I have on hand.  German DM43 or 53 come close, but still.