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  1. 1. Do you want the Panzerhaubitze 2000 ingame

    • Yes, it can direct fire, so why no!
    • Nope, not a chance!


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The PzH 2000 is a highly mobile and flexible weapon system which is deployed in both conventional missions as well as in asymmetric mission scenarios as indirect fire support. The fully automatic handling of the 60 round on-board ammunition reserve and a modern and precise 155 mm/ L52 ordnance enable the engaging of targets at a high rate of fire – within the shortest amount of time.  These characteristics make the PzH 2000 to the most  effective artillery system in the world – and to an absolute standard for modern artillery. The tube is an internally chrome-plated and laser-hardened 155 mm L/52 (60-rifles, right-hand spiral) 52-caliber long-stroke tube. Manufactured under the Joint Ballistics Memorandum of Understanding (Ballistics Agreement), all types of 155mm NATO ammunition can be fired.

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Designed for joint operations, the full autonomy of the complete system in terms of handling, navigation, fire control as well as its system-based stability enable completely new tactical mission possibilities. The PzH 2000 satisfies all international requirements for a modern tube artillery system and is currently in use with four NATO member countries.  More than 330 systems have been produced and supplied to date. Since September 2006 the PzH 2000 has successfully been deployed in Afghanistan. Together with the Canadian Forces the PzH 2000 of the Royal Netherlands Army could prove its international leading position, amongst others, during the Operation MEDUSA by reliably supporting the ISAF troops in Afghanistan.

Main characteristics of the PzH 2000:

  • Long range with a 155 mm/ L52 ordnance
  • High mobility
  • Turret and hull made from armored steel
  • Automatic aiming and round loading
  • Autonomy through a navigation system and fire control computer with ballistic functions
  • Superior range and area coverage
  • Capable of Multiple Rounds Simoultaneous Impact (MRSI)


Protection:
The vehicle's tower and tub are made of welded steel armor. This protects both the crew and stored in the tub ammunition. The inside of the vehicle was lined with a so-called Spall Liner to catch splinters of armor that peel off when fired inside the vehicle. The armor itself protects against shelling from weapons up to caliber 14.5 mm and splinters of 152 mm artillery shells. The top of the tub and the tower can be equipped with additional protection against bomblets, which is called 'Hedgehog Armor'. The Bombletschutz consists of a rubber material and is walkable. The bluff bodies have a length of 60 mm and are intended to protect against shaped charges. The term 'hedgehog armor' results from the spiked form of the bluff body. The 48 shafts of the propellant charge magazine are separated from the combat area by three sliding doors, so as not to endanger the crew in the event of an explosion of the cargo. In addition, there are two outlet openings in the tower roof, which are intended to divert the pressure generated during an explosion to the outside. An ABC protection system in the right rear part of the vehicle pan complements the protective equipment.
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The 'Hedgehog Armor' in detail

Ammo:
Manufactured under the Joint Ballistics Memorandum of Understanding (Ballistics Agreement), all types of 155mm NATO ammunition can be fired. The combat load of the PzH 2000 comprises 60 artillery rounds in caliber 155 mm in different, on order varying sorting. Explosive, Frag, Multispectral Smoke, Illumination, Bomblet, and SMArt projectiles are available. All types of ammunition are also available as base-bleed projectiles.
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Sources:
https://www.bundeswehrentdecken.de/aktuelle-reportagen/panzerhaubitze-2000
https://www.kmweg.com/home/artillery/self-prop-howitzer/pzh-2000/product-information.html
 

Books:
Panzer der Bundeswehr seit 1956, Karl Anweiler, Manfred Pahlkötter, ISBN-10: 3613028514 / ISBN-13: 978-3613028517
Panzerhaubitze 2000, Tankograd 5025  Taschenbuch, ASIN: B0030HTZGU

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You know me, I'm always down for any self-propelled artillery :DD
and it also looks so similar to my beloved Hummel (which I would like to see ingame as well, thank you ;))

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17 minutes ago, Stahlvormund101 said:

You know me, I'm always down for any self-propelled artillery :DD
and it also looks so similar to my beloved Hummel (which I would like to see ingame as well, thank you ;))

...as long as they have  direct fire capabilities.... they can be used as TD's

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I would actually argue, that if Gaijin were to implement a proper EC gamemode for all three modes, with a linear mapdesign that allows for progressive gameplay within a match, self propelled artillery could actually serve more of a purpose other than simple direct-firing at other vehicles...

 

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57 minutes ago, Cadianguardian said:

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Is there any concrete piercing ammo round ever developed for NATO 155mm? .

HEAT iirc

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22 minutes ago, WulfPack said:

What is the performance like? 

i'd need to guess.... but iirc its a french shell with ~6,8kg of composition B or was it US-developed.... i dont know anymore
i'd guess 600mm?

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Burst ROF: 3 rounds in 10sec
Consistent: 8rpm

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an interesting vehicle why not.

although there are a few problems, with the PzH 2000 regarding the meta.

  • small map spam in high tiers (abandoned factory and similar maps)
  • self-propelled howitzer.
  • probably extremely limited anti-tank capabilities.
  • lightly armored.
  • huge profile
  • 2.5 degrees of gun depression. (have fun shooting at trolls in m22's)

not sure if they just dunked an anti concrete shell in the side of that leopard. (did not seem like an heat shell hit) not sure if they specified what shell they used in the vid.

heat shells does xxxx** all atm in ground forces.

600mm of pen or not with heat, you can be sure that the driver of the m1 or t64b will just drink the copper jet, and ask for more.

but hey! it could work with extremely large maps, if lets say there would be a wiesel that would be disguised as a bush and observing enemy movements.

relaying the information to the pzh driver, map grids and so on. highly doubtful, going by ground forces team work standards.

and instead the wiesel, will just ninja steal the kill.

 

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2 minutes ago, mursuttaja said:

an interesting vehicle why not.

although there are a few problems, with the PzH 2000 regarding the meta.

  • small map spam in high tiers (abandoned factory and similar maps)
  • self-propelled howitzer.
  • probably extremely limited anti-tank capabilities.
  • lightly armored.
  • huge profile
  • 2.5 degrees of gun depression. (have fun shooting at trolls in m22's)

not sure if they just dunked an anti concrete shell in the side of that leopard. (did not seem like an heat shell hit) not sure if they specified what shell they used in the vid.

heat shells does xxxx** all atm in ground forces.

600mm of pen or not with heat, you can be sure that the driver of the m1 or t64b will just drink the copper jet, and ask for more.

but hey! it could work with extremely large maps, if lets say there would be a wiesel that would be disguised as a bush and observing enemy movements.

relaying the information to the pzh driver, map grids and so on. highly doubtful, going by ground forces team work standards.

and instead the wiesel, will just ninja steal the kill.

 

that shell in the vid was HE

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1 minute ago, LuizBarros99 said:

@dotEXCEL Did it fire any APDS or APFSDS? Or at least AP?

not to my knowlage
Explosive, HEAT ,Frag, Multispectral Smoke, Illumination, Bomblet, and SMART

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29 minutes ago, dotEXCEL said:

not to my knowlage
Explosive, HEAT ,Frag, Multispectral Smoke, Illumination, Bomblet, and SMART

Never saw any HEAT for the 155 round in at least the german inventory.

Also never heard of any HEAT round for this caliber of artillery tested or fielded...

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i think the researchable T-64B HE shell (let alone the Sturmpanzer II) has proven that; with enough explosive mass; HE shells provide enough force to be effective anti-tank weapons even at high tier- and essentially act as a counterpart to unconventional tactics with non-saboted shells at high tier, like with the Begleitpanzer or AMX-13 HOT.

 

+1. same as the suggestion for the french SPA.

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1 hour ago, Ronin_GE said:

Never saw any HEAT for the 155 round in at least the german inventory.

never said in german inventory. we are using DM21 DM 111 iirc which is HE
the important part is this:

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Manufactured under the Joint Ballistics Memorandum of Understanding (Ballistics Agreement), all types of 155mm NATO ammunition can be fired.

The US have at least one HEAT shell iirc
the french should have also developed an HEAT-shell

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6 minutes ago, dotEXCEL said:

never said in german inventory. we are using DM21 iirc which is HE
the important part is this:

The US have at least one HEAT shell iirc
the french should have also developed an HEAT-shell

Hmm, "Janes Handbook" on ammunitions does not list any 155mm HEAT round.

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1 minute ago, Ronin_GE said:

Hmm, "Janes Handbook" on ammunitions does not list any 155mm HEAT round.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/155.htm

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16 minutes ago, Delta_48 said:

This is kinda a tough one, since this SPG is usually used for indirect fire... does it even have the rounds to kill another tank with direct fire?

Rougly 100 pounds coming at you with nearly 900m/s...and then on contact detonate into fist sized shrapnel with (at that point) ~ 2000 m/s . Any tank hit by that will be a K-kill or at least an M-kill

2 minutes ago, dotEXCEL said:

The only heat round in that list is the copperhead...and thats surely not for direct fires :-P

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