tanks/vehicles T-80UK: A Command Tank With Teeth

[WulfPack 1,693]

 

As is common with Soviet tanks, a command version of the T-80U was a certainty. Unlike previous command tanks, T-80UK was more than just a simple “upgrade” with just more radios. UK brought three notable things, the Agava-2 first generation thermal sight, Shtora-1 APS, and the use of remote programmable HE-Frag and Shrapnel shells. The Agava would allow the UK to remove the L-4A "Luna-2" IR lamp on the right side of the gun and replace it with Kontakt-5 tiles. More importantly, UK could engage enemy positions with greater accuracy and allow for night time engagements without revealing it’s position. Shtora-1 was an entire complex of laser warnings and SACLOS or Laser guided ATGM jamming.The use of programmable shells would allow UK to detonate them in air, to increase their effectiveness.

Additional “Minor” Changes:-

Navigational Equipment: TNA-4

Atmospheric Monitoring Equipment

New radios: R-163U and R-163K

Autonomous power unit: AB-1-P28

Loose stowage may have also been removed to make room

T-80UK never saw service with the USSR but instead with the Russian Federation. It would enter service at some point in the early 90s(Late 1992 or Early 1993).

Shtora stuff:

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An explanation I didn't write

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Shtora-1 is an electro-optical jammer that jams the enemy’s semiautomatic command to line of sight (SACLOS) antitank guided missiles, laser rangefinders and target designators. It is most effective when used in tandem with a hard kill system such as the Arena.

The Shtora-1 system comprises four key components, the electro-optical interface station, which includes a jammer, modulator, and control panel; a bank of forward-firing grenade dischargers mounted on either side of the turret that are capable of firing grenades dispensing an aerosol screen; a laser warning system with precision and coarse heads; and a control system comprising control panel, microprocessor, and manual screen-laying panel. This processes the information from the sensors and activates the aerosol screen-laying system. Shtora-1 has a field of view of 360-degrees horizontally and -5 to +25-degrees in elevation. It contains 12 aerosol screen launchers and weighs 400kg. The screening aerosol takes less than 3 seconds to form and lasts about 20 seconds. The screen laying range is between 50-70 meters. The system is activated when the laser warning system detects the threat laser system. The tank commander (TC) presses a button that automatically orients the turret in the direction of the threat. It then triggers the grenade launchers. The aerosol screen is effective over a frequency band of 0.4-14 Em. The composition of this cloud is claimed to screen the tank against laser rangefinders and designators and is also claimed to be sufficiently hot to seduce IR homing weapons away from the MBT. The electro-optical jammers, designated TShU17, introduce a spurious signal over the 0.7-2.5 Em band, into the guidance circuitry of the incoming ATGM through the use of a coded pulsed IR jamming signal. The jammers provide coverage over 20 degrees in azimuth on each side of the main armament and through 4 degrees of elevation, and is effective within 2 seconds of target identification. It is claimed to be effective against Western ATGMs such as TOW, HOT, MILAN and Dragon, as well as Eastern Bloc ATGMs such as the AT-3. The TShU1-7 has a specified life of 1,000 hours, a mean time between failures (MTBF) of 250 hours, and a radiation source of 50 hours. Shtora-1 has four methods of operation: fully automatic, semiautomatic/target designation, and manual and emergency mode. According to the manufacturer, the system reduces the hit probability by the following factors: TOW and Dragon, Maverick, Hellfire, and Copperhead laser seeker systems by a factor of 4-5:1; MILAN and HOT by 3:1; Artillery and tank projectiles fired from systems with laser rangefinders by 3:1.14 There is no reference to success against the Russian AT-4 and AT-5 or cannon-launched laser beam riders like the AT-10 and AT-11.

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Designation:-

T-80UK Main Battle Tank

Dimensions:-

Length: 22.9 feet

Length with gun forward: 31.6 feet

Height: 7.1 feet

Width: 11.5 feet

Ground Clearance: 1.4 feet

Crew: 3 (Driver, Gunner, Commander)

Weight: 46 tons

Protection Estimates:-

Turret:

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Kontakt-5 Layout:-

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530 - 570-MM vs KE

Kontakt-5 adds about 150 - 200-MM

550 - 700-MM vs CE

Kontakt-5 adds about 800-MM

Mantle:-

About 350-MM of Steel

Upper Frontal Plate:-

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AW Estimates for the make up

55mm of steel

35mm of ceramics

35mm of steel with a 5mm gap

35mm of ceramics

50mm of steel

400-500 vs KE

Kontakt-5 adds about 150 - 200-MM

450-550 vs CE

K-5 adds about 800-MM

Lower Frontal Plate:-

80-MM of Steel

Upper Side Plate:-

80-MM of Steel

Lower Side Plate:-

20-MM of Steel

The front portion of the side is protected with Kontakt-5

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Mobility:-

Engine: GTD-1250 Gas Turbine Outputting 1250 horsepower

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Top speed forward: 70 KMH/43 MPH (4 Forward Gears)

Top speed in reverse: 11 KMH/6.8 MPH (1 Reverse Gear)

Firepower:-

125-MM 2A46-1

Munitions:-

(Chosen by year)

3BM-46 ‘Sivnets’ APFSDS

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Penetration: 600- 650-MM @ 2K @ 0

Muzzle Velocity: 1700 MPS

3BK-29 HEAT-FS

Penetration: 650-MM @ 0

915 M/S

9M-119 ‘Refleks’ ATGM

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Penetration: 750-MM

With ERA: 700

Guidance System: SACLOS Laser

Average Muzzle Velocity: 400 MPS

Maximum Muzzle Velocity: 800 MPS

Range 75-5000 M

Rate of Fire: 8 RPM

Ammunition load: 45 in total with 28 in the automatic loader and 17 additional rounds

(The 17 additional rounds may have been removed, in order to make room)

7.62-MM PKT

Ammunition load: 6 250 round boxes totaling 1500 rounds

Maximum gun angles: -5/+14

Horizontal turret traverse rate: 24 Degs/S

Gun elevation rate: 3.5 Degs/S

12.7-MM 6P11 NSVT or 6P49 KORD

Maximum gun angles: -15/+85

Ammunition load: 450 in total

The HMG is Stabilized on both planes

 

Sources:-

http://www.tankinfo.ru/Country/SSSR/3/T-80/T-80UK.php

http://www.oruzie.su/tanki/633-t-80uk

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Т-80У

https://aw.my.com/us/news/general/development-t-80u

https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/search/label/T-80

Most of the pictures: https://www.vitalykuzmin.net

Shtora-1 Info: Armor Active Protection Systems May-June 1998

Edited June 15, 2018 by WulfPack

[Radom 4,245]

Open for discussion 

[Necrons31467 14,236]

Made an armour schematic a while back for the T-80U based on available data:

 

 

• Turret armour values are based off of the Swedish diagrams (linked below).
• Lower glacis is taken off of the known Sovjet lower glacis designs.
• Upper glacis is transferred from the T-80BV values, personal estimae of around 430mm.
• Upper glacis with Kontakt-5 is another personal estimate based on the data regarding M829A1's inability to penetrate the glacis arrays of T-72B Obr. 1989's (with Kontakt-5, again, linked below), as well as the level of extra protection provided by K-5 over the turret according to the Swedish diagram.

 

Might be useful perhaps?

 

 

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Jane's International Defence Review 7/2007, pg. 15

During the tests we used only the weapons which existed with NATO armies during the last decade of the Cold War to
determine how effective such weapons would have been against these examples of modern Soviet tank design. Our results
were completely unexpected. When fitted to the T-72A1 and B1 the 'heavy' ERA made them immune to the DU (Depleted Uranium)
penetrators of the M829A1 APFSDS (used by the 120 mm guns of the Cold War era US M1 Abrams tanks), which are among the most
formidable of current tank gun projectiles. We also tested the 30mm GAU-8 Avenger (the gun of the A-10 Thunderbolt II Strike Plane),
the 30mm M320 (the gun of the AH-64 Apache Attack Helicopter) and a range of standard NATO Anti Tank Guided Missiles – all with
the same result of no penetration or effective destruction of the test vehicles. The combined protection of the standard armour
and the ERA gives the Tanks a level of protection equal to our own. The myth of Soviet inferiority in this sector of arms production
that has been perpetuated by the failure of downgraded T-72 export tanks in the Gulf Wars has, finally, been laid to rest.
The results of these tests show that if a NATO/Warsaw Pact confrontation had erupted in Europe,
the Soviets would have had parity (or perhaps even superiority) in armour

 

Anywho, as for this specific suggestion, I'm not entirely sure if it's necessary, atleast not unless FCS starts being represented (gaijn plss), and I can't see it being a premium for a while either for obvious reasons.

 

And though it pains me to say (I love the aesthetic of this thing) I think this is not needed, unless equally powerful vehicles are implemented.

There are also more interesting vehicles I'd like to see added before this one (T-90A, T-72B3, etc), assuming the 'base model' T-80U won't be skipped.

 

Edited June 15, 2018 by Necrons31467

[WulfPack 1,693]

11 minutes ago, Necrons31467 said:

Made an armour schematic a while back for the T-80U based on available data:

 

 

• Turret armour values are based off of the Swedish diagrams (linked below).
• Lower glacis is taken off of the known Sovjet lower glacis designs.
• Upper glacis is transferred from the T-80BV values, personal estimae of around 430mm.
• Upper glacis with Kontakt-5 is another personal estimate based on the data regarding M829A1's inability to penetrate the glacis arrays of T-72B Obr. 1989's (with Kontakt-5, again, linked below), as well as the level of extra protection provided by K-5 over the turret according to the Swedish diagram.

 

Might be useful perhaps?

 

 

Something I've always wondered, directly below the gunner's sights, is that two Kontakt-5 titles ontop of each other?

11 minutes ago, Necrons31467 said:

 

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(T-90A, 

 

Provided I can find suffenict information on the turret, that'll probably be next. Or I can be really lazy and do T-80UA....

Edited June 15, 2018 by WulfPack

[kamikazi21358 998]

The T-80U can be the tech tree tank and the T-80UK, since it is a command tank, could be an event tank(?)

 

[Admiral_Aruon 2,263]

On 08/07/2018 at 19:56, kamikazi21358 said:

The T-80U can be the tech tree tank and the T-80UK, since it is a command tank, could be an event tank(?)

 

WAYYYYY too early for tier 6 event tanks. either the T-80UK or T-64AK command tanks would make for worthwhile tier 6 minus 1 premiums if their ammo isn't just total LOLpen.

[kev2go 5,112]

why have the T80UK  a command tank over the front line T80U tank?

 

The only relevant  RL advantage the T80UK has over the T80U is the addition of thermal imaging sights, which is irrelevant for war thunder right now as gajin doesn't simulate any sort of night fighting devices.

Edited July 15, 2018 by kev2go

[WulfPack 1,693]

36 minutes ago, kev2go said:

why have the T80UK  a command tank over the front line T80U tank?

Never said UK should be added instead of U.

[ChrisXD62365 520]

"3BM-46 ‘Sivnets’ APFSDS"

That's a paddlin.

[RefrigerRaider 563]

WHAT?! I support!

 

let me add: the T-80UK is quite an upgrade over the T-80U. It has the new Agava-2 night vision sight with up to 2km range, compared to the 800m range of the T-80U. And the Shtora active protection system that jams incoming atgms. The IR Lamp would be removed and an extra Kontakt-5 tile will be added in its place. These features are not present in game, but could be added in the future, even with non functioning night vision or aps system, this tank will still make a nice backup!

 

heres a vid

 

 

Edited March 20, 2019 by RefrigerRaider

[kamikazi21358 998]

3BM46: “650mm at 0”.

 

new penetration analysis be like: “gib that mf-er 496mm at 0 at 10m and call it good.”

 

 

Which also, it would be historical to give the T-80U in game the 3BM46, if the game had historical ammunition for high tier.

[Milocat 4,842]

I would love to see this vehicle added along with this addition:  

 

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[jet_17_49 411]

Would be nice to have this when APS systems become a thing.

Edited April 28, 2022 by jet_17_49

[Elitemeercat22 5]

yes please

[MCmaddawg 341]

More T80's is always a good idea.

[whosmans 70]

+1

[JEI2 5,766]

+1

[NAYEONnaise 1,936]

+1, but only when NATO and China get more competitive tanks at top tier. 

[Yontzee 1,669]

Agreed ^^^ Nevertheless +1

[Yontzee 1,669]

Congrats on your post mate 

 

https://warthunder.com/en/news/7841-development-squadron-vehicles-t-80uk-en

[CTCrusader 214]

We know will get this! Which is great because the T-80U is a good tank. 

Edited August 31, 2022 by CTCrusader

[RamsesPharaoh 12]

It's good that the author is still playing

[Anime_Thighs_OwO 140]

LET'S xxxx GOOOOOOOOOOO

The T-80U's are my favorite MBT family

[warner7 81]

It is cool, but gaijin should care more about low tier tbh. 

[leroyonly 4,310]

As the T-80UK has been implemented with Update 2.19 Drone Age,

 

Moved to Implemented Suggestions.