light cruiser IJN Kuma Light Cruiser

[Culusion 254]

The Kuma class Light Cruiser (CL) was built between the years of 1917-1921 and was commissioned in 1920-1946, these light cruisers were the predecessors of the Tenryū class light cruisers. The Kuma class vessels were essentially enlarged versions of the Tenryū-class cruisers, with greater speed, range, and weaponry. 
14 July 1919, Launched at 0900 and named Kuma, the lead ship of the Kuma class light cruisers. Captain (later Rear Admiral) Aoki Tohei (27) (former CO of ASAMA) is appointed the Chief Equipping Officer (CEO). Kuma was refit in late 1934 with a tripod mast, two rotatable quadruple torpedo launchers, and an aircraft catapult for launching a reconnaissance float-plane, typically a Kawanashi E7K1 "Alf". 

Statistics:
Length: 162.1 meters (531 feet 10 inches) overall and 158.6 meters (520 feet 4 inches) water line length.
Beam: 14.2 meters (47 feet 3 inches)
Draft: 4.8 meters (15 feet 9 inches)
Propulsion: 4 shaft Gihon geared turbines, 12 Kampon boilers, 90,000 shp (67,000 kW) which achieved a speed of 36 knots (41mph, 67km/h)
Range: 9000 nautical miles (17,000 km) at 10 knots (12mph, 19km/h)
Complement: 450
Armor: Belt: 60 mm (2.4 in), Deck: 30 mm (1.2 in)

Armanent:
7 × 14 cm/50 3rd Year Type naval guns

2 × 8 cm/40 3rd Year Type naval guns


8 × 533 mm (21.0 in) Type 92 torpedo tubes(4x2) 
Diameter: 21 inches
Length Overall: 23 feet, 5 inches
Weight: 3792 pounds (1720 KG)
Explosive charge: 661 pounds (300 KG)
Range: 7000m @ 30 knots (34.5 mph, 55.6km/h)
Wander:  120m / 7,000m
(Couldnt find a picture of the 533 mm Type 92 torpedos :( )

48 naval mines

 

The number of 14 cm/50 3rd Year Type naval guns was increased from four on the Tenryū class to seven on Kuma: two forward, two on each side of the superstructure and three aft, which meant that only six guns could be brought to bear on a broadside. The torpedo launchers were also increased to four double launchers however, the Kuma class remained highly deficient in anti-aircraft protection, with only two 8 cm/40 3rd Year Type naval guns and two machine guns.

References:
 http://www.combinedfleet.com/torps.htm
 https://www.naval-encyclopedia.com/ww2/japan/kuma-class-cruisers/

Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuma-class_cruiser

 

[WulfPack 1,693]

+1

[leroyonly 4,311]

Kuma always gets a +1 from me ^^ and also,

 

Open for discussion. 

Edited November 12, 2018 by leroyonly

[Miki_Hoshii 2,449]

4 minutes ago, leroyonly said:

Kuma always gets a +1 from me ^^ and also,

 

Open for discussion. 

Sendai is better. But ill take a Kuma too

 

Edited November 12, 2018 by Miki_Hoshii

[BlitzkriegWulf 4,265]

1 hour ago, Culusion_IA said:

The Kuma class Light Cruiser (CL) was built between the years of 1917-1921 and was commissioned in 1920-1946, these light cruisers were the predecessors of the Tenryū class light cruisers. The Kuma class vessels were essentially enlarged versions of the Tenryū-class cruisers, with greater speed, range, and weaponry. 

 

You have my support, but I want Tenryuu crusier too! 

 

:3

[Culusion 254]

Just now, BlitzkriegWulf said:

You have my support, but I want Tenryuu crusier too! 

Had plans to make a suggestion for Tenryuu, just lemme get the Aoba one in development out of the way first

[Mercedes4321 4,695]

That AA armament seems pretty anemic, but otherwise I think it would be a fine addition.

[BlitzkriegWulf 4,265]

1 hour ago, Mercedes4321 said:

That AA armament seems pretty anemic, but otherwise I think it would be a fine addition.

 

Can't be as bad as the Clemson.... About the only way the Clemson could have a worse armament is if they had to hurl rocks and swears.

[leroyonly 4,311]

1 hour ago, Mercedes4321 said:

That AA armament seems pretty anemic, but otherwise I think it would be a fine addition.

Do note that her AA highly depends on the refit and time period. As over the time she served she had an additional 2x2 Type 96 25mm's installed and even later on had her number 5 gun replaced with an additional 2x3 Type 96 25mm's bringing her total up to 10x25mm barrels and 2x machine gun (As i am fairly sure her initial refit removed the 8cm guns as they were fairly obselete and after the refit don't get mentioned anywhere.) or 4x25mm barrels and 2x machine gun. Granted this isnt a whole lot but should be respectable enough for a fair few aircraft.

[Edytha_Paula 3,452]

Updooted, now pay up, Yorel :3

[aizenns 3,591]

Kuma-class light cruiser Kitakami and Ooi became Torpedo cruiser → High-speed transporter → Kairei career (Ooi sunk before modified to Kairen career)

These variants seems curious for game.

[Culusion 254]

39 minutes ago, aizenns said:

These variants seems curious for game.

i was thinking of covering Kitakami and Ooi, but I don't wanna do more than 3 a day currently as I have many other things to do, perhaps someone else will cover them though.

[aizenns 3,591]

1 minute ago, Culusion_IA said:

i was thinking of covering Kitakami and Ooi, but I don't wanna do more than 3 a day currently as I have many other things to do, perhaps someone else will cover them though.

Well, may I make suggestions of torpedo cruisers suggestion?

[Culusion 254]

6 minutes ago, aizenns said:

Well, may I make suggestions of torpedo cruisers suggestion?

Go for it! I encourage it in fact. feel free to use any info from here if its at all helpful.

[BlaZebura 3,688]

7 minutes ago, aizenns said:

Well, may I make suggestions of torpedo cruisers suggestion?

please do

 

 

I hope they add the third CLT as a premium(sort of what-if but hey, there's shittons of what-ifs ingame already lmao)

[Tasty95215 2,099]

I have some information for the Kuma's shells, so I'll post them here. I may need to separate these into separate posts, though. Starting with the 14cm Type 3 guns:

 

Spoiler

 

There's also an incendiary shell but I wasn't able to find pictures for that. That one was apparently for AA purposes anyways so it's not too big of a deal.

 

In any case, it's up to Gaijin as to which shells they want to implement for Kuma. There are a total of 4 different HE shells. Out of them the standard common projectile has the most explosive mass with 7.33 lbs of picric acid, but it's the slowest and has the least range. The Anti-submarine shells would be really slow and have weird ballistics but should be useful if submarines are ever implemented. Illumination shells aren't implemented at the moment, but the smoke shells might be pretty useful - I'm not experienced enough in naval battles to tell.

Edited November 12, 2018 by Tasty95215
Added Type 2 Common shell blueprint

[Culusion 254]

2 minutes ago, Tasty95215 said:

Spoiler

 

I have some information for the Kuma's shells, so I'll post them here. I may need to separate these into separate posts, though. Starting with the 14cm Type 3 guns:

 

  Hide contents

 

There's also an incendiary shell but I wasn't able to find pictures for that.

 

 

very nice

[Tasty95215 2,099]

Here are the shells used for the 8cm Type 3 guns: 

 

Spoiler

 

The 8cm Type 1 Armor-piercing Special Common round seems to be more of a semi-Armor-piercing shell, trading penetration for extra explosive mass. It should probably still penetrate enough for small boats and the like.

[Tasty95215 2,099]

Finally, here's the 25mm Type 96 AA gun, which is present on almost every WW2 Japanese ship.

 

 

HE shells

Spoiler

 

Armor-piercing shells

Spoiler

 

While the files say that it can penetrate over 60mm at 500 meters, it should be noted that this was tested against "Class 1 Mild Steel", which has a "tensile strength of 41-52 kg/mm^2 and a 20% coefficient of expansion". This is weaker than standard RHA, but I don't know by how much. Does anyone know what this penetration is equivalent to?

[wulfalier 2,470]

+1,still waiting for suggestion for Mogami "light" 

[Culusion 254]

15 minutes ago, wulfalier said:

+1,still waiting for suggestion for Mogami "light" 

Tomorrow  I'll see what I can find!

[CokeSpray 7,274]

I'll also drop in a +1 just so @leroyonly can have his fun boat in the game and stop telling me random fun facts about it when I'm busy putting out 3 fires, 2 floodings and pulling out a dud bomb out of my Emden's deck in the average naval RB battle.

[arczer25 5,202]

1 hour ago, Tasty95215 said:

Finally, here's the 25mm Type 96 AA gun, which is present on almost every WW2 Japanese ship.

 

 

HE shells

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Armor-piercing shells

  Reveal hidden contents

 

While the files say that it can penetrate over 60mm at 500 meters, it should be noted that this was tested against "Class 1 Mild Steel", which has a "tensile strength of 41-52 kg/mm^2 and a 20% coefficient of expansion". This is weaker than standard RHA, but I don't know by how much. Does anyone know what this penetration is equivalent to?

It's layered (25mm+35mm) and mild steel (non armor steel) hard to tell, but drop would be pretty high could be from 25% to even as high  50%

[_TomokoAnabuki 8,995]

I support this suggestion

[aizenns 3,591]

When searching about Kitakami, I find curious photo

 

In 1944 Kitakami was modified to Kaiten career.

Remove all torpedo tubes, Daihatsu and main guns, and it equip 2x twin 12.7cm AA gun, 12x Triple 25mm machine gun and 31x Single 25mm machine gun! (total: 67x 25mm)

 

Japanese designers seem very extreme