me 264 Me 264: Amerikabomber

[KnightsCross20@psn 3,636]

The BR increase is fine. The repair costs could have used a slight decrease. 53.4k is a little ridiculous. Take 10k off, and it would be about right. 

[NoodleCup31 8,824]

OH WAIT REPAIR COST STILL AT 53K.

oof

[Pecanin 1,047]

Crying by Americans always results in Br increase or nerfs for Germans/Russians

[KnightsCross20@psn 3,636]

7 hours ago, Stavroforos said:

If this was an Allied bomber, it would be at least 5.3. 

And it would also only cost around 10k (save for the B-29)

[NoodleCup31 8,824]

5 minutes ago, xxx_freelancer_x said:

Crying by Americans always results in Br increase or nerfs for Germans/Russians

ALWAYS.

The only time they do something is when a T32 passes over 73% winrates haha.

The T29 rising above 68% and still going is no problem for balance especially because its oh so great counterpart Tiger 2 and IS 2 sit at 42% 

Abroomz about to surpass the 2A5 in WR and KD, Merkava and M60 RISE have passed OP Leo L44 and the T20 sits at 70% winrate for months until they make the Tiger H1 somewhat useable against it.

[Pecanin 1,047]

6 minutes ago, *KnightsCross20 said:

And it would also only cost around 10k (save for the B-29)

 

And would have all of its historical armament disregarded and fitted with 20 x 12.7 mm guns

1 minute ago, NoodleCup31 said:

ALWAYS.

The only time they do something is when a T32 passes over 73% winrates haha.

The T29 rising above 68% and still going is no problem for balance especially because its oh so great counterpart Tiger 2 and IS 2 sit at 42% 

Abroomz about to surpass the 2A5 in WR and KD, Merkava and M60 RISE have passed OP Leo L44 and the T20 sits at 70% winrate for months until they make the Tiger H1 somewhat useable against it.

Remember how they cried about addition of Panther II & Tiger II 10.5 ....then Gaijin introduces entire line up of T tanks that were never in service and they shut up

 

Abrams has broken armor atm ...Leo has parts of armor removed to please Yanks

 

They butchered Ju 288 c also for crying 

 

At crying they are masters ...at game ..not so much

 

Maybe Gaijin need some guy like they have at that other game ...to tell them that most tanks in this game have B.S info cards

[KnightsCross20@psn 3,636]

25 minutes ago, xxx_freelancer_x said:

They butchered Ju 288 c also for crying

I know it’s off topic but don’t even get me started with the 288. Bought it for its performance, only to get nerfed AND then BR raised. 

Anyways, don’t want the thread to wonder off topic. Like I said lower the repair cost (it’s higher than the 177), and I’d be fine with it. I will still get kills from the guy tail dragging me. Just will have to adjust my attack routes a little to match some of my other heavies, to get that additional altitude. 

[Stavroforos 15,367]

1 hour ago, xxx_freelancer_x said:

Crying by Americans always results in Br increase or nerfs for Germans/Russians

gErMaNy sUfFeRs

[NoodleCup31 8,824]

18 minutes ago, Stavroforos said:

gErMaNy sUfFeRs

Statistically this can't even be called a meme anymore.

 

[Stavroforos 15,367]

1 hour ago, NoodleCup31 said:

Statistically this can't even be called a meme anymore.

 

Oh, okay, if the statistics say so. 

[AlphaX3069 114]

This plane needs a damn br increase, it's so much faster at cruising alt and hard to catch up to. The gunners are OP as hell, I was sniped literally no joke 2 km away from one burst when I was chasing it (trying to at least). It's basically a b17 with those gunners, why the hell is at 4.0

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

4 hours ago, AlphaX3069 said:

The gunners are OP as hell

 

The gunners are wrong. Pray that they never fix it to 151s:

 

 

[150octane 411]

8 hours ago, Chomusuke1 said:

The gunners are wrong. Pray that they never fix it to 151s:

 

 

The real Me 264 never flew with any bombload or defensive armament. It also had either 1340 hp Jumo 211 or 1750hp BMW 801, depending on the prototype, not the 2050 hp Jumo 213 you have in the game. Be grateful for what you have :^)

 

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

14 hours ago, _Wingman_ said:

Me 264 never flew with any bombload or defensive armament

 

That is not an excuse for the game developers to pick and choose whatever random and least effective assortment of engines, bombs, and defensive weapons that fits their whim instead of actually following manufacturer documentation and giving us the following:

 

 

15 hours ago, _Wingman_ said:

2050 hp Jumo 213

 

I would rather have the correct BMW 801 G-2 with GM-1

[Pony51 6,572]

On 22/07/2019 at 23:54, Chomusuke1 said:

That is not an excuse for the game developers to pick and choose whatever random and least effective assortment of engines, bombs, and defensive weapons that fits their whim instead of actually following manufacturer documentation and giving us the following:

 

Apart from the engines the 3D model is fairly accurate. 

 

The FM on the other hand is exceedingly suspect.  It does not fly like a very long wing aircraft at all. 

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

16 hours ago, Pony51 said:

Apart from the engines

And the turrets (notice that it says 151Z) and payload and the external racks and the missing rato and the extended wingtips.....

[KnightsCross20@psn 3,636]

On 21/07/2019 at 17:51, AlphaX3069 said:

This plane needs a damn br increase, it's so much faster at cruising alt and hard to catch up to. The gunners are OP as hell, I was sniped literally no joke 2 km away from one burst when I was chasing it (trying to at least). It's basically a b17 with those gunners, why the hell is at 4.0

The easiest way to take down a 264 is using a P-61. Get up to alt. Head on the 274, making sure you are below it, so as to avoid the top turret. If you don’t get it in the first pass, dive away, and get below it. Stay below its top gunners as you re-engage. Use the 61’s own turret. If you have good energy, nose up and finish it off.

 

[Pony51 6,572]

10 hours ago, Chomusuke1 said:

And the turrets (notice that it says 151Z) and payload and the external racks and the missing rato and the extended wingtips.....

 

No data on the never built 151Z (not that I ever saw one.  Maybe the same as BV 328, but that was never more than artist dawing).

SC2500 not in game.

RATO?  show data

Extended wings? why need that?

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

On ‎07‎/‎08‎/‎2019 at 12:28, Pony51 said:

No data on the never built 151Z

 

Didn't stop many never built vehicles from making it into this game. Here is this grey diagram from a Ju 390 for an FDL-C 151Z...the FDL-B 151Z should not be that different apart from the PVE6 and the fact that the gunner is not prone:

 

Edited August 10, 2019 by Chomusuke1

[Pony51 6,572]

21 minutes ago, Chomusuke1 said:

 

Didn't stop many never built vehicles from making it into this game. Here is this grey diagram from a Ju 390 for an FDL-C 151Z...the FDL-B 151Z should not be that different apart from the PVE6 and the fact that the gunner is not prone:

 

 

It is a stretch.

 

I do think a production 264 bomber would have used the turret systems of the 288/388 and He 177.  Those 2 big bubbles on top are a major drag.

And no side gunner

[Pecanin 1,047]

11 minutes ago, Pony51 said:

 

It is a stretch.

 

I do think a production 264 bomber would have used the turret systems of the 288/388 and He 177.  Those 2 big bubbles on top are a major drag.

And no side gunner

 

When was drag ever even consideration in WW II bomber design

[KnightsCross20@psn 3,636]

2 hours ago, xxx_freelancer_x said:

 

When was drag ever even consideration in WW II bomber design

The 264 itself is the epitome of drag consideration. The B-29 and He-177 as well. As the war went in, the more emphasis was placed on reducing drag. 

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

On ‎10‎/‎08‎/‎2019 at 01:16, Pony51 said:

It is a stretch

 

It is a stretch that you people have implemented the vehicle with an incorrect set of engines and everything else rather than the BMW 801G and then have the audacity to call it "the Me 264 that the players requested":

 

 

No one requested this errorred fantasy piece of junk. What was expected was the definitive version that someone already had started complete with BMW engines:

 

Edited August 11, 2019 by Chomusuke1

[Pony51 6,572]

8 hours ago, Chomusuke1 said:

 

It is a stretch that you people have implemented the vehicle with an incorrect set of engines and everything else rather than the BMW 801G and then have the audacity to call it "the Me 264 that the players requested":

 

 

No one requested this errorred fantasy piece of junk. What was expected was the definitive version that someone already had started complete with BMW engines:

 

I did not ask for this monstrosity, I did not want this, I would have made it with BMW 801G, and many other changes (if I had any chose in matter).

 

I am just like you, just a guy who plays what is given, makes the most of it, and does bug reports.

 

Everyone who works in the forums and moderates in the game (language, abuse, etc) are not employees of Gaigin, please remember that.

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

On ‎07‎/‎08‎/‎2019 at 12:28, Pony51 said:

RATO?  show data