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M4A2 (Sherman) “012403” of the PLA


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Another unique low tier vehicle that could be added to the new Chinese tech tree. Description from http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/china/chinese-tanks-1925-1950/:

 

“M4A2 (Sherman) “012403” of the PLA (specifically, the East China Field Army) in Xuzhou, circa October 1st, 1949, during a local parade for the proclamation of the People’s Republic of China. This vehicle is theorized to have been left behind by, and inherited from, the United States Marine Corps, who used M4A2 during the repatriation of Japanese occupation forces from China, following the end of the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945). No M4A2s are known to have been supplied to the KMT. The gun is apparently non standard, and may be anything a .50cal machine gun, a 37mm gun from a Chi-Ha, or a prop for the parade.”

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On 30/08/2019 at 17:06, Silent870 said:

 

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it might be just a dummy

i check information about this tank in china, the parade did mention something that can be translated by "temporary tube" for this tank. look like that was just a dummy gun to me. could be a simple as a broom stick put there 2min before the parade.

 

here is the tank now according to various source. it was repainted and installed in some dusty place of the Beijin museum

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at the same time, other modification like this was done on the M8 HMC turret. they mounted it on the LVT(a)4. it might be a 37mm M6

 

we still can see the hole for the broom stick. i wonder if there was still the whole broom or just the stick.

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I don't know about this though, it kinda looks like a broomstick. But when looking at the hole that the stick is supposed to stick out, it seems to be kinda big... I remember that when I went to the Military Museum of the Chinese People's Revolution last summer (or last last summer), it just said that this is a M4A2 that is left behind. The thickness of the stick sort of looks like a M2 browning but it seems to be much longer. I guess the best way to add this tank is to make it a april fools event vehicle (That maybe could be earned?), with the turret having a wooden broom stick and a functioning hull machine-gun. This tank should be pretty good at Br. 2.0 due to the .50 cal buff recently and should be a fun tank to play with. Also, Speaking of shermans in the PLA service, the Military Museum of the Chinese People's Revolution do have a captured M4A3 (76)w from the Korean war, dunno if it could be added.

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This Sherman's gun was confirmed by some official stuff of the celebration, just a wooden stick.

Not a secret, just a stick.

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I know, I mean that even if it is in game, the main gun will be the hull machine gun, the turret gun is a stick. It should also have a top mounted .50cal and maybe a coaxial?

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6 hours ago, Hinyanawi_Tenshi said:

This Sherman's gun was confirmed by some official stuff of the celebration, just a wooden stick.

Not a secret, just a stick.

Then give the tank APS, armor piercing stick, rounds.

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7 hours ago, tiger7742 said:

I know, I mean that even if it is in game, the main gun will be the hull machine gun, the turret gun is a stick. It should also have a top mounted .50cal and maybe a coaxial?

It has been fixed I think, maybe you could find it in Beijing museum

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On 16/06/2020 at 17:30, Hinyanawi_Tenshi said:

It has been fixed I think, maybe you could find it in Beijing museum

yes, now my chinese M4A1 can no longer shred teir one tanks ;(  Sure, the tank is now in the museum, still without a gun. It is together with a 76mm M4A3 that has been captured in the korean war (I kinda want a chinese M4A3)

On 20/06/2020 at 00:06, ShimakazeChan said:

I Would Like To Give The Chinese A Sherman With A Stick For Gun. Ironic +1.


No Threat For Me, More RP For Me. 

 

I see... you have a mind of a business man. :D

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After re-thinking and doing a few testing with the shermans that I have in game, I think maybe this tank can be a fairly decent 1.0/1.3/1.7, due to its roof mounted M2HB 50cal machine gun, which has been proved to be able to pen almost every tank from the side at this B.r (it would basically be a up-armoured M2A2), but may struggle slightly when fighting frontally (the armour of the sherman at this B.R is really effective though, so not much of a problem). I am thinking to make a suggestion next week, so I would again like to ask what everyone thinks.

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On 01/02/2021 at 09:04, tiger7742 said:

After re-thinking and doing a few testing with the shermans that I have in game, I think maybe this tank can be a fairly decent 1.0/1.3/1.7, due to its roof mounted M2HB 50cal machine gun, which has been proved to be able to pen almost every tank from the side at this B.r (it would basically be a up-armoured M2A2), but may struggle slightly when fighting frontally (the armour of the sherman at this B.R is really effective though, so not much of a problem). I am thinking to make a suggestion next week, so I would again like to ask what everyone thinks.

You could do a suggestion, but how many source you have could provide?

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7 minutes ago, Hinyanawi_Tenshi said:

You could do a suggestion, but how many source you have could provide?

How many sources do I need? Currently I have the photo, which proves the sherman in PLA service, and I have the tank encyclopedia page, not sure if this is enough.

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14 minutes ago, tiger7742 said:

How many sources do I need? Currently I have the photo, which proves the sherman in PLA service, and I have the tank encyclopedia page, not sure if this is enough.

Which gun it used for main weapon? If you could not get a source for it, that will be difficult.

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