Sprengbombe Cylindrisch & Spezialbombe 2500 (SB & SC 2500)

[N4CR_ 537]

7 hours ago, Ghostmaxi said:

About the Ab 500 and 250, how does it work? I have read some about it but i didnt quite understand it. Does one half pop off, the bombs fall out and the other half stays on the plane and it looks like the cluster bomb dropping like in Battlefield 1 or does the whole thing drop, seperate mid air in 2 pices and the bombs fall out? 

The latter one would be harder to use and implement imo.

It has a case with a hinge around the tail if you check diagrams, so they do not separate completely. The shear wire holding the pieces together is cut by the fuse trigger then the casing splits open and the guts of doom come raining out

 

There is some more info here https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C151706

 

I guess in summary, think giant steel (often HEAT bomblet) banana of doom. 

Edited October 29, 2021 by N4CR_

[Ghostmaxi 873]

4 minutes ago, N4CR_ said:

It has a case with a hinge around the tail if you check diagrams, so they do not separate completely. The shear wire holding the pieces together is cut by the fuse trigger then the casing splits open and the guts of doom come raining out

 

There is some more info here https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C151706

 

I guess in summary, think giant steel (often HEAT bomblet) banana of doom. 

But does it say on the plane or fall off?

 

[N4CR_ 537]

10 minutes ago, Ghostmaxi said:

But does it say on the plane or fall off?

 

yes, sorry I made an absolute mess of that first comment structure

Edited October 29, 2021 by N4CR_

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

***edited***

 

 

On 29/10/2021 at 08:28, Ghostmaxi said:

About the Ab 500 and 250, how does it work? I have read some about it but i didnt quite understand it

 

Here is some info:

 

Edited October 30, 2021 by syndrome23

[Ghostmaxi 873]

3 hours ago, Chomusuke1 said:

 

Which one? Pony51 or ColdMatches? Pay no heed to them. They seem like nice contrarians who want to continue to use the FAB-5000 unopposed on non-soviet players without any retaliation by other factions since the rest of us lack our largest bombs in the game. Like it was stated before, to avoid any issues, trace this (link), give it 1,200 kg filler, and implement it into the game. It is not that difficult

 

 

Here is some info:

 

Thank you know i know 100% a bit sad to implement in game, hard to use.

[Target1331 3,055]

8 hours ago, Chomusuke1 said:

Which one? Pony51 or ColdMatches? Pay no heed to them. They seem like nice contrarians who want to continue to use the FAB-5000 unopposed on non-soviet players without any retaliation by other factions since the rest of us lack our largest bombs in the game. Like it was stated before, to avoid any issues, trace this (link), give it 1,200 kg filler, and implement it into the game. It is not that difficult

Seriously? You continue spreading such false statements? No one in this thread ever indicated anything being opposed to overall implementation of some bigger bombs to the German Luftwaffe, and no one here ever indicated favoritism that the Soviets should be the only ones having high caliber bombs like the FAB-5000.

There has been no opposition to getting e.g. the SC 2500, which btw has been the initial topic of this thread and the first pages mentioning nothing of the SC 2000, no opposition for the He 111 and Ju 88 getting their higher bomb loads, with Pony51 and others also showing no indication against the implementation of the SC 2500.

 

The only bomb people have an issue here is the SC 2000 because:

a) there is not enough information on it,

b) what information is available is contradicting each other in some aspects,

c) so far, there has been not a single picture or manual of an aircraft that shows/indicates it specifically used the SC 2000, which means there is currently no need for the SC 2000 anyway, as no aircraft manual shows support for it. In fact all screenshots of manuals etc. in this thread never mention an SC 2000, it goes from SC 1800 to SC 2500 directly with nothing in between.

 

Best regards,

Phil

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

16 hours ago, Target1331 said:

No one in this thread ever indicated anything being opposed to overall implementation of some bigger bombs to the German Luftwaffe

 

 

I can find more but they will be from outside this thread

 

16 hours ago, Target1331 said:

In fact all screenshots of manuals etc. in this thread never mention an SC 2000, it goes from SC 1800 to SC 2500 directly with nothing in between.....first pages mentioning nothing of the SC 2000

 

That is exactly the idea. This is purely a SB/C 2500 thread. All SC 2000 references have been deliberately kept out of this thread by myself. The first person who mentioned the SC 2000 was you on Tuesday at 16:22 near the bottom of page 2, it seems, so I in turn responded on page 3 (which was ultimately censored for what; the word contrarian?)...If you want the SC 2000 debate it is over here:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/364923-gross-bomben-the-lw-biggest-bombs-and-wt-inclusion

Or, if you are saying that you want me to make a SC 2000 thread, then perhaps someday I might, but it is all heavily dependent on money (to buy research materials/books/manuals), the outcome of this very thread, & the outcome of the SC 10 thread

 

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no opposition for the He 111 and Ju 88 getting their higher bomb load

 

Actually, there is active opposition by gaijin's lack of bug approval or bug fixes. For example, in order for the He 111 (H-6, H-16 [H-3 is fine]) to get their higher correct (and then higher) bombload, both these models would need to be heavily reworked as detailed in these two still unapproved threads here:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/535170-29026-incorrectmissing-bombloads-on-the-heinkel-he-111-h-6

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/535574-29036-incorrectmissing-bombloads-on-the-heinkel-he-111-h-16

TLDR, Essentially, the game's H-6 & H-16 are incorrectly using the external Lastenaufhängerahmen bomb rack used specifically on the H-11/H-20 models resulting in very dubious and false in-game bombloads. Gaijin had the opportunity to fix this issue when they reworked the He 111 models a few years ago but they failed to fix it. For the Ju 88 A-4, I will make a thread on it as well, depending on the outcome of these two 111 bug reports above, but I'll tell you it will be an uphill battle as the wing bomb racks are still missing even after Gaijin reworked that aircraft model as well

 

Edited October 31, 2021 by Chomusuke1

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

[Ghostmaxi 873]

By the devblog of the S 199 it seems to get the SD 50 and SD 70 does anyone know if german planes will also get them?

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

On 07/12/2021 at 10:46, Ghostmaxi said:

By the devblog of the S 199 it seems to get the SD 50 and SD 70 does anyone know if german planes will also get them?

No idea. You should ask them directly in the questions to the team section...I bet that they will never answer

[mixu83 209]

Looks like were getting the SC 2500, this is from the 1st "Wind of Change" Dev server patch notes:

• He 111H-16 - SC2500 “Max” bomb has been added.

[Pony51 6,572]

Link to Dev Notes

 

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

 

On 11/03/2022 at 11:43, mixu83 said:

Looks like were getting the SC 2500, this is from the 1st "Wind of Change" Dev server patch notes:

• He 111H-16 - SC2500 “Max” bomb has been added.

 

A couple of questions:

Why just on the He 111 H-16? Did they even read this thread?

Are the bombloads finally corrected on the He 111 H-6 & H-16? Anyone have screenshots of their bombloads from the current dev server?

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/535170-29026-incorrectmissing-bombloads-on-the-heinkel-he-111-h-6

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/535574-29036-incorrectmissing-bombloads-on-the-heinkel-he-111-h-16

 

Edited March 13, 2022 by Chomusuke1

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

It is now six months later and the He 111 H-16 remains the only craft in the game with the SC 2500....Why is this bomb still missing from our other aircraft?:

 

Edited September 15, 2022 by Chomusuke1

[NoodleCup31 8,824]

IIt really should be added to the other planes that could carry it as well.

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

[Thodin 6,784]

SC-2500 destructrion radius was nerfed during the last days. As I mouseover'ed it yesterday, it showed no longer the 84m destruction radius....

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

I wonder if they ever implement in the SB 2500, will that one have the original destruction radius?

[Drahau 682]

On 25/03/2023 at 09:26, Chomusuke1 said:

I wonder if they ever implement in the SB 2500, will that one have the original destruction radius?

No.

THis also true for the 1800 as they nerfed the radius greatly one time to the point its only slightly better than the 1000.

 

But he, PE8 5000 can go through solid ground and several buildings worth and kill a maus with ease.