Heinkel He 111 H-20/R3

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

The Heinkel He 111 H-20 was one of the final bomber models of the He 111 series. Equipped with the more powerful Jumo 213 E engine, it was the fastest of all the He 111 H bombers with a maximum speed of nearly 480 km/h. Armed with MG 131s in the A, B, C, & S-Stands (nose, dorsal, rear gondola, & sides) and an MG 81Z in the D-Stand (fwd gondola), its bombload, carried externally on a Lastenaufhängerahmen rack, comprised of the following loads:

1 x 2,500 kg

2 x 1,800 kg

2 x 1,400 kg

3 x 1,000 kg

4 x 500 kg

2 x 500 kg + 1 x 250 kg

8 x 250 kg + 1 x 500 kg

4 x 250 kg + 1 x 500 kg

9 x 250 kg

20 x 50 kg

16 x 50 kg

3 x BSB

In War Thunder, the He 111 H-20 would fill the gap between 1944 - 1945 as the game's newest He 111 model, the H-16, ended production in late 1943. Over 550 H-20s were newly produced throughout 1944 while a further 500 older models were upgraded to H-20 standards as well. This suggestion is specifically for the Heinkel He 111 H-20/R3 nocturnal level bomber. Main improvements over the current He 111 H-16 would be:

 

~45 km/h increase in maximum speed

More powerful Jumo 213

Flame damper tubes
MG 131 in all positions except the D-Stand according to the manual
360° Drehlafette DL 131/1C turret in B-Stand
More armor around the B-Stand

Able to carry the 2,500 kg bomb

Maximum bombload of 3,600 kg

 

Some more information:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Manuals:

http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.com/archiv/Dokumente/ABC/h/Heinkel/He 111/He 111 H-20.pdf

http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.com/archiv/Dokumente/ABC/h/Heinkel/He 111/He 111 H-20 Wa.pdf

http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.com/archiv/Dokumente/ABC/h/Heinkel/He 111/He 111 H-20 Teil 12 A Schusswaffenanlage.pdf

http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.com/archiv/Dokumente/ABC/h/Heinkel/He 111/He 111 H-20 Teil 12 B Abwurfwaffenanlage.pdf

http://www.muzeumlotnictwa.pl/index.php/digitalizacja/katalog/2062

Edited October 4, 2019 by Chomusuke1

[ItssLuBu 1,803]

Approved and open for discussion, please spoiler some of the photos for ease of viewing the overall thread. 

[Solarmod 1,204]

More indigenous planes for Germany! +1 

[Milocat 4,857]

Ooh yes, I would love to see the ultimate evolution of the He 111.  +1.

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

Apparently, some H-20 were converted to launch the Vergeltungswaffen 1:

 

 

 

Edited October 9, 2019 by Chomusuke1

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

On 07/10/2019 at 18:28, Chomusuke1 said:

Apparently, some H-20 were converted to launch the Vergeltungswaffen 1:

 

 

 

 

True, but implementing the V1 would be a bit of a daunting task.  It's not like your typical air-launched rocket or guided missile - it flies a certain distance until an internal odometer trips and shuts off the engine, causing it to fall onto the target, rather than being fired directly at it.  How do we make this work in War Thunder?  I mean, I guess we could disregard this and make them just be really heavy, long-ranged dumb-fire rockets if all else fails.

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

Lastenaufhängerahmen rack with 2500 kg bomb:

 

[KnightsCross20@psn 3,636]

Would be a great addition! 

[MandolinMagi 603]

I actually suggested this a while ago, good idea.

[Solarmod 1,204]

On ‎11‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 14:52, Z3r0_ said:

 

True, but implementing the V1 would be a bit of a daunting task.  It's not like your typical air-launched rocket or guided missile - it flies a certain distance until an internal odometer trips and shuts off the engine, causing it to fall onto the target, rather than being fired directly at it.  How do we make this work in War Thunder?  I mean, I guess we could disregard this and make them just be really heavy, long-ranged dumb-fire rockets if all else fails.

I mean, another thing you could do is have there be special missions where you fly in formations with smart bomb planes, and have interceptors try to stop you. 

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

4 hours ago, Solarmod said:

I mean, another thing you could do is have there be special missions where you fly in formations with smart bomb planes, and have interceptors try to stop you. 

 

We actually had that at a couple of points where the Allies were defending an airfield in Britain from V-1s and the Axis had to try to stop them.  Basically, all the Axis had to do was run away from everybody and they'd win by default, because the V-1s were too fast and too numerous, so the Allies would get overwhelmed and lose, unless the Germans actually went out of their way to fight.

[DANIEL4444MZBR 3]

+1

[Solarmod 1,204]

16 hours ago, Z3r0_ said:

 

We actually had that at a couple of points where the Allies were defending an airfield in Britain from V-1s and the Axis had to try to stop them.  Basically, all the Axis had to do was run away from everybody and they'd win by default, because the V-1s were too fast and too numerous, so the Allies would get overwhelmed and lose, unless the Germans actually went out of their way to fight.

Really? I didn't know that.

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

On 24/10/2019 at 08:26, Solarmod said:

Really? I didn't know that.

 

Yep.  It wasn't a very fun event.

[Solarmod 1,204]

4 hours ago, Z3r0_ said:

 

Yep.  It wasn't a very fun event.

Sounds like it.

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

 

Edited January 28, 2020 by Chomusuke1

[Kasukaru 2,164]

It's an actual plane which flew in WWII? Then yes, +1 !

[Pony51 6,572]

In case it was not know, one of the 111H-20 sill exist.

 

 

 

[Solarmod 1,204]

9 hours ago, Pony51 said:

In case it was not know, one of the 111H-20 sill exist.

 

 

 

Where?

[Pony51 6,572]

20 hours ago, Solarmod said:

Where?

Currently in Cosford, Shropshire.

That is England for you cretins.

 

Formally in Hendon.

 

PS: some careless bloke lost the turret during the filming of Battle of Britain  (1969)   

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

Pony51...We do not want the craft that you have pictured...My suggestion is for the He 111 H-20/R3 bomber so if you want your R1 paratroop aircraft then please start a separate suggestion for it

 

Edited February 15, 2020 by Chomusuke1

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

[Sternjaeger84 1,076]

That's a +1.

[Pony51 6,572]

20 hours ago, Chomusuke1 said:

Pony51...We do not want the craft that you have pictured...My suggestion is for the He 111 H-20/R3 bomber so if you want your R1 paratroop aircraft then please start a separate suggestion for it

 

 

They are the same aircraft, Chomuseuke

/R3 added seats and modified lower defensive gun, but for model purpose it is ideal subject (just make sure to include lower gun).

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

On ‎15‎/‎02‎/‎2020 at 22:49, Pony51 said:

They are the same aircraft, Chomuseuke

Incorrect. They are as different as a Panzer IV F1 vs an F2, Panzer III J vs an J1, or a Fw 190 A-8/R1 vs an Fw 190 A-8/R2

On ‎15‎/‎02‎/‎2020 at 22:49, Pony51 said:

R3 added seats

The R3 had no seats you mean. Not only that but the defensive weapons on the R3 were more than tripled over the R1

Edited February 17, 2020 by Chomusuke1