1.95 Rumor Round-Up and Discussion

[Hyrikul 2,633]

16 minutes ago, RanchSauce39 said:

 

Because the victor(s) write history

 

Id say that with the fgr2 and with the possibility of more advanced phantoms looming in future updates from other nations relative to early types like the f4c, mirage f1c isnt out of the question either. 

 

I'm absolutly not against that

[Ainen 284]

8 hours ago, gromvoiny said:

 

It lacks the armament to be a rank 3. Also, it would cost more in that case. 

Is armament that important in WT?

1x20+2x12,7 is more than enough to bring down any fighter caught in the crosshairs. And will readily detach tail from any piston-engined bomber with a short burst, as long as it can catch it.

[Snipermakedonski 402]

Based on this update I am speculating that 1.95 will probably have the following:

 

- US tier 6 premium helo (YAH64A)  and tier 7 helo (AH64D without the radar based on the MI28N model also not having the radar dome attached) (although the AH1z is easily tier 7 capable);

- Tier 5 cruisers for Russia;

- French Mirage jet;

- T80UM or T90A MBT for Russia with probably a round upgrade to the 3BM44M;

- Germany mach 2 (probably the F4)

- Italy gets the F104

-Japan (Hopefully) gets a missile SPAA and the Type 10

- Britain may get the EEL however that would mean all other nations would also get newer mach 2 planes which seems unlikely. 

[NoodleCup31 8,824]

23 minutes ago, Ainen said:

Is armament that important in WT?

1x20+2x12,7 is more than enough to bring down any fighter caught in the crosshairs. And will readily detach tail from any piston-engined bomber with a short burst, as long as it can catch it.

YES it is.

They wanted to uptier the Me 262 A1 some time ago (to 7.3) because OVERWHELMING ARMAMENT.

Just like a reason to remove the Maus was overwhelming armament...

 

Edited October 30, 2019 by NoodleCup31

[Col_Von_Strohm 13]

33 minutes ago, Snipermakedonski said:

Based on this update I am speculating that 1.95 will probably have the following:

 

- US tier 6 premium helo (YAH64A)  and tier 7 helo (AH64D without the radar based on the MI28N model also not having the radar dome attached) (although the AH1z is easily tier 7 capable);

- Tier 5 cruisers for Russia;

- French Mirage jet;

- T80UM or T90A MBT for Russia with probably a round upgrade to the 3BM44M;

- Germany mach 2 (probably the F4)

- Italy gets the F104

-Japan (Hopefully) gets a missile SPAA and the Type 10

- Britain may get the EEL however that would mean all other nations would also get newer mach 2 planes which seems unlikely. 

 

The EEL isn't any more advanced than the jets we already have. Yes it's faster and it TWR at sea-level is higher than 1:1 which is a big deal but it only has 2 ADENs, can take only 2 missiles and that's it. The F-4 is plenty fast as is and actually has use in ground RB/at the end of an air RB match when there is one guy hiding

[Snipermakedonski 402]

 

16 minutes ago, Col_Von_Strohm said:

 

The EEL isn't any more advanced than the jets we already have. Yes it's faster and it TWR at sea-level is higher than 1:1 which is a big deal but it only has 2 ADENs, can take only 2 missiles and that's it. The F-4 is plenty fast as is and actually has use in ground RB/at the end of an air RB match when there is one guy hiding

 

The 1/1 TWR is really important as it allows it to out climb anything with easy. However, I agree that Gajin does not care in many respects to the competitiveness of high tier jets when they pcik which ones to introduces given the BS that is the F13. 

[Cedjoe 5,482]

1 hour ago, RanchSauce39 said:

Id say that with the fgr2 and with the possibility of more advanced phantoms looming in future updates from other nations relative to early types like the f4c, mirage f1c isnt out of the question either. 

The Mirage F1 maybe but no Mirage 2000 for now haha

[Capt_Rodgers 2,370]

2 minutes ago, Snipermakedonski said:

 

 

The 1/1 TWR is really important as it allows it to out climb anything with easy. However, I agree that Gajin does not care in many respects to the competitiveness of high tier jets when they pcik which ones to introduces given the BS that is the F13. 

As what I read about climb rate which is product of TWR and we have now it is more than 60-100m/s less that planes like F-4C/M and MiG 21 actually have IRL 

[TheAntiAirGuy 2,131]

Update 1.95 What´s likely to come

- Swedish Airforce Tech-Tree (quite possibly a J35B or D as Top-Tier)

- F-104 for Japan, Italy, Germany (Maybe USA)

- Mirage III

- BAC Lighting F.1

- Rank VI Premium US heli, Rank VII AH-64A or later variants

- More Rank V Heavy cruisers

- Chinese AA line, Type-99

- Chinese Q-5

 

More speculation:

- New mechanic; active protection system

- T-90A

- Leclerc S2

- Type-10

- Heli-TT for Italy/Japan

- and some Low-tier stuff 

[Snipermakedonski 402]

10 minutes ago, Capt_Rodgers said:

As what I read about climb rate which is product of TWR and we have now it is more than 60-100m/s less that planes like F-4C/M and MiG 21 actually have IRL 

 

It is really weird. It should have a 120m/s climbrate but its T/W ratio is over 1.2 so technically it could climb faster because it can accelarate much much better than even the mig19 can now which has a T/W of 0.83

[Col_Von_Strohm 13]

The Lightning (14 tons) is much lighter than the F-4 (25 tons), MiG-21 is much lighter still (something like 8 or 9 tons). But the Lightning has 2 Avon 301s that each produce 73kN of thrust in afterburner mode. The MiG-21 only has 1 engine that tops out just under 70 kN. So the Lightning is heavier but it has more than twice the power than the MiG-21.

[Snipermakedonski 402]

26 minutes ago, Col_Von_Strohm said:

The Lightning (14 tons) is much lighter than the F-4 (25 tons), MiG-21 is much lighter still (something like 8 or 9 tons). But the Lightning has 2 Avon 301s that each produce 73kN of thrust in afterburner mode. The MiG-21 only has 1 engine that tops out just under 70 kN. So the Lightning is heavier but it has more than twice the power than the MiG-21.

 

Yea that is why they probably will be introducing it this comign patch or even 1.97 with other planes because that huge difference in power will make a massive difference within the meta of WT. 

[irisarribase 179]

In your opinion, is there any posibility in future updates italy could get MC 206 or/and Re 2006? Or other Re 2005 variant? 

[NoodleCup31 8,824]

55 minutes ago, TheAntiAirGuy said:

Update 1.95 What´s likely to come

- Swedish Airforce Tech-Tree (quite possibly a J35B or D as Top-Tier)

- F-104 for Japan, Italy, Germany (Maybe USA)

- Mirage III

- BAC Lighting F.1

- Rank VI Premium US heli, Rank VII AH-64A or later variants

- More Rank V Heavy cruisers

- Chinese AA line, Type-99

- Chinese Q-5

 

More speculation:

- New mechanic; active protection system

- T-90A

- Leclerc S2

- Type-10

- Heli-TT for Italy/Japan

- and some Low-tier stuff 

 

Possible is also a 2A6.

We had one semi leak but I am not sure if we can trust that.

It was right about BMP 3 and M1 with better armour

[Hail_the_Snail 692]

1 minute ago, irisarribase said:

In your opinion, is there any posibility in future updates italy could get MC 206 or/and Re 2006? Or other Re 2005 variant? 

I looked into these planes and I have found no concrete evidence of them even existing. the only "6 series" that seems to have results upon searches is the G.56

Just now, NoodleCup31 said:

 

Possible is also a 2A6.

We had one semi leak but I am not sure if we can trust that.

It was right about BMP 3 and M1 with better armour

LOL 2A6 is waaaay to good right now. You can expect updated 2A4s along the lines of C type, 2A4M etc and IFVs for germany along with super sonics but dont expect 2A6 before Russia gets better T-72, T-80U, T-90 and other stuff like Type 10, Leclerc S.2, Challenger 2E come out. 

[Rancewhipper@psn 175]

6 minutes ago, irisarribase said:

In your opinion, is there any posibility in future updates italy could get MC 206 or/and Re 2006? Or other Re 2005 variant? 

dunno about the 206, but the Re.2006 was passed for consideration.

 

[NoodleCup31 8,824]

18 minutes ago, Hail_the_Snail said:

LOL 2A6 is waaaay to good right now. You can expect updated 2A4s along the lines of C type, 2A4M etc and IFVs for germany along with super sonics but dont expect 2A6 before Russia gets better T-72, T-80U, T-90 and other stuff like Type 10, Leclerc S.2, Challenger 2E come out. 

The L55 DM33 is about as good as the Leclercs round so no.

Viable 2A4 would also be nice though

[__Renzo__ 2,684]

7 minutes ago, NoodleCup31 said:

The L55 DM33 is about as good as the Leclercs round so no.

Viable 2A4 would also be nice though

Yeah so a tank with Leclerc firepower and 2A5 armor. That sounds like a recipe for hands down the best MBT in the game. 

 

Anyway I hope that people asking for the Type 10 know that it will probably performs worse then what the general opinion is and we probably won't be able to do a thing about it. 

Edited October 30, 2019 by dutchrenzo62
Thx autocorrect.

[NoodleCup31 8,824]

4 minutes ago, dutchrenzo62 said:

Yeah so a tank with Leclerc firepower and 2A5 armor. That sounds like a recipe for hands down the best MBT in the game. 

Chill guys I have not said that I demand a 2A6.

I just want a unnerfed 2A5 a 2A4 with DM33 and maybe a 2A4C in the future

[KaedeP 167]

3 minutes ago, dutchrenzo62 said:

Anyway I hope that people asking for the Type 10 know that it will probably performs worse then what the general opinion is and we probably won't be able to do a thing about it. 

 

Fam, two 10.0 tanks in a lineup is better than just one. Even if it's worse than actual performance (then again, which MBT isn't nerfed?) we'll still take it.

[Ghost_Xiphidion 894]

The 2a5 is still the best tank in the game and I'm a little embarrassed for my fellow German players that are still clamoring for something even better. There a so many holes and missing vehicles in our tech tree... MBT's at the very top are not one of them.

[Fireraid233 4,274]

13 minutes ago, dutchrenzo62 said:

Yeah so a tank with Leclerc firepower and 2A5 armor. That sounds like a recipe for hands down the best MBT in the game. 

 

Anyway I hope that people asking for the Type 10 know that it will probably performs worse then what the general opinion is and we probably won't be able to do a thing about it. 

No one is asking for Type10 because it will be god like. It will fit the meta and give Japan at least something else other then Type90 that's why it's being asked.

Edited October 30, 2019 by Fireraid233

[Hail_the_Snail 692]

2 minutes ago, Fireraid233 said:

No one is asking for Type10 because it will be god like. It will fit the meta and guve Japan at least something else other then Type90 that's why it's being asked.

THIS ^^^^^

[Snipermakedonski 402]

38 minutes ago, NoodleCup31 said:

Possible is also a 2A6.

We had one semi leak but I am not sure if we can trust that.

It was right about BMP 3 and M1 with better armour

 

2A6 will not come for at least another half a year because it basically is a unkillable 2a5 due to reenforced hull armor. There is ABSOLUTELY no need for it. What did the leak say as a whole?

 

9 minutes ago, NoodleCup31 said:

Chill guys I have not said that I demand a 2A6.

I just want a unnerfed 2A5 a 2A4 with DM33 and maybe a 2A4C in the future

 

The 2A4/5 dont need ANY buffs. Is a 95% winratio not enough?

[Rancewhipper@psn 175]

back on the topic of the Mirage, the F1 was just passed for consideration