[Premium] Finnish Saab J35XS "Kreivi von Rosen" Hawée II mod

[MasterOfUltramar 1,711]

 

Finland used Swedish Saab J35 jets in its history along with Soviet MiG-21 jets of many variants, so I am here proposing a premium Saab J35X (Export model).

Finland also used R-13M and R-3S missiles that they bought from Soviet Union along with MiG-21´s.

The plane would receive the "Kreivi von Rosen" skin as base, quite nice one indeed and it could get this "1972000" skin as a GE skin.

Explanation of J35XS, X means export and S is for Suomi (Finland).   Finland acquired 12 of these and assembled in Finland by Valmet.

Saab J35XS is derived from Saab J35F (source is Saab aircraft since 1937)

Saab J35XS would have one internal 30mm Aden cannon as you can see below. It can carry 4 sidewinders but only one cannon so its not really as good as the others.

 

Finnish J35XS with R-13M missile

 

 

UPDATE: I decided to take off the Vympel K-13 poll off as its just an R-3S missile, and it gives no advantages except the choice of using either Soviet or American/Swedish missiles. So it kinda should be with the plane, thats one part that makes the Finnish J35XS special i.e. premium worthy.

 

UPDATE: 12.03.2020 Added R-13M picture proof.

 

ONE OF THE BEST SOURCES REGARDING THIS PLANE

http://tiikki.blogspot.com/2013/03/saab-draken-in-finnish-air-force-and.html

 

 

 

 

 

Cockpit

 

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Radar; with Haw ée upgrade, it had PS-011A radar.

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Vympel K-13 attached to "Kreivi von Rosen".

K-13 missiles and other Soviet missiles were used by Finland historically, Finland was neutral throughout the cold war so Finland was the first nation to receive the super modern MiG-21 fighters, even Warsaw Pact countries did not have access to them. So Finland bought MiG-21´s, BMP-1s and 2s, T-72s, small arms, anti air equipment, missiles and a lot more. Finland still uses a lot of this equipment and the ones we dont use are still in reserve i.e. ak-47 rifles tho some of them were upgraded to the main frontline rifle Rk-62 and Rk-95 rifles which inturn were upgraded to Rk-62M 1-2-3 series of rifles back in 2018-2019.

 

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Picture of AIM-26 Falcon, in a training missile configuration (no warhead).

 

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Flare and chaff dispenser of J35

 

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Couple of Finnish J35XS flying

 

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"Kreivi von Rosen" With a loadout installed, looks like 2x droptanks in middle and on both sides are sidewinders and on both sides again are Aim 26 Falcons.

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"Kreivi von Rosen" video with armament showing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxGbZvgsu2U

 

Sources

https://www.ilmailumuseot.fi/tuotteet.html?id=20776/264218

https://www.wikiwand.com/fi/Suomen_ilmavoimien_Saab_J35_Drakenit

https://www.airliners.net/

http://tiikki.blogspot.com/2013/03/saab-draken-in-finnish-air-force-and.html

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u/dura-ace from reddit.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 2, 2022 by Capt_JamesTKirk
Added multiple informational pictures. + sources more + K-13 Vympel capability + contributor marked

[leroyonly 4,311]

Open for discussion. 

[Ein79 5,752]

Supported!

[Milocat 4,855]

+1 for the Swedish tree!

[Sternjaeger84 1,076]

+1.

 

Would be a nice Swedish premium after the standard one is added.

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves and add rank 6 premiums just yet.  I'd be fine with having this as a skin for the J35 though (and the J35 IS confirmed to be in the works).

[Borotovas 4,500]

+1

[MasterOfUltramar 1,711]

10 hours ago, Z3r0_ said:

Let's not get ahead of ourselves and add rank 6 premiums just yet.  I'd be fine with having this as a skin for the J35 though (and the J35 IS confirmed to be in the works).

J35XS is quite different when compared to Swedish used models, so not possible.

We soon will have Tier 7 jets. I am not saying this should come now, these suggestion take around 1-2 years for the ones that do come to get into the game. By then I bet we already have TIE fighters flying around in space realistic.

Edited January 3, 2020 by FinlandSupreme

[Rieskaruisku 506]

Although I'm not a fan of jets or cold war era vehicles at all, I still throw a big  +1  for this.

[Nicholas_Concu 2,634]

+1 

[Panssarikolonna 1,086]

+1 as premium

[EpicBlitzkrieg87 8,350]

R-13M missiles on a Draken? Take all my money. It'll be interesting to see how a Swedish jet smashed with Russian engineering will turn out. Could also serve as a tool to smooth progression, since the current Draken has Rb 24Js, this one would have R-13Ms with 12 degrees/sec of tracking and around 18G load. If not, a perfect event vehicle or maybe a premium but I'd prefer seeing it in an event.

Edited September 15, 2020 by EpicBlitzkrieg87

[Wolf_89 2,525]

More Finnish vehicles/aircraft for the Swedish tree Pls!.

 

Pls also add Danish and Norwegians to the Swedish tree.

And make it a Nordic tree.

[eleks12 1,079]

1 hour ago, Wolf_89 said:

More Finnish vehicles/aircraft for the Swedish tree Pls!.

 

Pls also add Danish and Norwegians to the Swedish tree.

And make it a Nordic tree.

 

The Danish One can be a Premium if we get a Danish/Noweagean Ground Tree line in the Swedish Tree. And the Finnish Draken can be event. 

[yoyolast 1,710]

This would be worth it for the flare pods alone IMO, and it's definitely a much better choice for a rank VI premium for Sweden as opposed to a Finnish Mig-21. +1 from me.

[xxlightsabrexx 149]

Bold of y'all to assume Sweden's going to receive more Drakens, we would've seen atleast one by now. The Danish one has been the most sensible candidate For the longest time now

 as Sweden lacks a good ground pounder and it would do relatively well at top tier air rb with 2 RB24Js, Flares, RWR and the same amount of 30mm rounds as the 35D. It only racks a radar which,when you look at things like the J-7E, isn't that much of an issue.

 

I like the optimism anyhow

Edited July 25, 2021 by xxlightsabrexx

[ComradeHanz 136]

im always for more variants of the Draken count me in 1000+ <3

[ZachP59 1]

I love the idea of this aircraft being added, but it should not be a premium vehicle. The performance of this jet would be significantly better than the tech tree J35D variant which just does not seem right. If anything, I would like to see the XS variant grouped with the J35D in the tech tree. A draken with flares and aim 4's would be an awesome upgrade to work towards either before or after obtaining the Viggen. 

[Yontzee 1,675]

I think if Gaijin adds a Finnish aircraft-line for the Swedish tree, this would be a solid top rank premium to help promote Finnish aircraft. Hope to see. +1 

[Faster_Boiiiii 753]

i think it'd be a waste to make this a premium. unless we'd get newer swedish drakens this should be a TT alongside the mig-21. whats the point of a subtree if everything is premium lol

[CokeSpray 7,274]

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