Austrian Ground Forces Tech Tree

[PikPikker 445]

Hello, I'm going to suggest adding Austria as a new combined nation to the game, and here is Austrian Ground Forces Tech Tree:

https://pikpikker.neocities.org/au_wt.html

This is my own site where you can enlarge every picture and click any tank to read about it!

The tree as a picture:

Spoiler

Austria is well-known for its tanks like SK-105 Kurassier, Steyr ADGZ or 4K 4FA, and I thought it would be good to make them an independent tech tree. And during my research I found more interesting vehicles, so the tree turned out to have lots of unique tanks. And there is not so many clones. Austria is often put inside Swiss tree, but I prefer it to be separate as far as it is possible.

 

Caution! This tree breaks time frames in the game, because here is post-war vehicles everywhere, even on rank 2. 

 

Now I will give a little review on each line.

Line 1 - light tanks. This line is represented with light tanks with big caliber guns, and the famous SK-105 Kurassier in the end.

Line 2 - light tanks with autocanons. Here is tanks that have tiny calibers with high RPM. At the end of the line there are ASCOD LT-105 machines.

Line 3 - SPAAGs. As usually, a SPAAG line with unique anti-air vehicles. And M42A1 Duster, of course.

Line 4 - tank destroyers. Recoilles rifles, mortars, ATGMs - this line has many interesting and nice to play vehicles.

 

Some words about my tech tree.

At first, I tried avoiding too many copies - and that is why not all the Austrian tanks might be here (for example, I avoided some import tanks like non-modernized M47).

All the BRs are approximate (or can be totally wrong), and were set as for arcade mode.

All the shown premium tanks can be implemented as available for purchase for Lions, pack specials or any others.

I expect Landsverk L-60O and Steyr Prototyp to be the Reserve tanks.

Also there are only 5 tanks on rank 2 and 3, but it does not go against the game system of research: China has only 5 necessary vehicles to research on rank 2, and same for Italy on rank 3.

 

Vehicle count:

Rank 1: 7 (for research) + 0 (premiums)

Rank 2: 5

Rank 3: 5 + 2

Rank 4: 6 + 2

Rank 5: 6 + 1

Rank 6: 9 + 1

Rank 7: 4

Total: 48 vehicles (42 without premiums)

 

Here is the vehicle list with all the tank pictures, but only some of them has a description. You can access decent sources for all other tanks from my site (I will also answer all the questions regarding my tree if you have any!).

 

Vehicles

Spoiler

Line 1 - light tanks

Spoiler

Landsverk L-60O

Spoiler

M8 Greyhound

Spoiler

M24 Chaffee

Spoiler

T-34-85

Spoiler

FSCV-90

Spoiler

4K 7FA TS-90

Spoiler

 

4K 7FA with TS-90 French turret with Giat 90 mm gun. 

M47D Patton

Spoiler

SK 105 A1 Kurassier

Spoiler

SK 105 A2 Kurassier

Spoiler

SK 105 A3 Kurassier

Spoiler

 

Line 2 - light tanks with autocanons

Spoiler

Steyr Prototyp

Spoiler

Steyr ADGZ

Spoiler

Saurer RK-9

Spoiler

4K 4FA G1

Spoiler

Pandur I

Spoiler

4K 4FA G2

Spoiler

Pandur I ARSV 25

Spoiler

Pandur I ARSV 30

Spoiler

4K 7FA MICV 30/1

Spoiler

Pandur I ARSV 90

Spoiler

ASCOD Ulan

Spoiler

ASCOD LT-105-LRF

Spoiler

ASCOD LT-105-LPT

Spoiler

 

Line 3 - SPAAGs

Spoiler

M3 Halftrack 12.7 mm

Spoiler

FLA-Dodge

Spoiler

 

Dodge 3/4 with 20 mm M58 anti-air gun from 1950s.

Pinzgauer 712 FLA

Spoiler

 

Pinzgauer 712 truck with 20 mm M58 autocanon. Was in service in 1950-60s.

4K 7FA FLA 2/2.20

Spoiler

 

Light SPAAG from 1980s. Double 20 mm gun in an interesting turret was installed on 4K 7FA, but the vehicle was too outdated.

M42A1 Duster

Spoiler

4K 7FA FLA 3/2.30

Spoiler

ASCOD Wildcat

Spoiler

 

Wildcat is a turret with twin 35 mm anti-air autocanon.

Pinzgauer Mistral

Spoiler

ASCOD AAMC

Spoiler

 

Line 4 - tank destroyers

Spoiler

Puch P800 Solothurn

Spoiler

 

20 mm Solothurn M36 (S18-1000) installed on motorbike in 1930s.

M7B2 Priest

Spoiler

Haflinger 57 mm

Spoiler

Pinzgauer 106 mm

Spoiler

Haflinger Mosquito

Spoiler

 

The vehicle on the photo is from the Swiss army, but Austrian army had Haflingers with Mosquito missiles too.

4K 3FA MRS-80

Spoiler

ASCOD AMC0-120

Spoiler

4K 7FA HOT

Spoiler

Pandur I Hellfire

Spoiler

NORICUM SM-4

Spoiler

 

Line 5 - premiums

Spoiler

M-51

Spoiler

Charioteer

Spoiler

OAF Radpanzer

Spoiler

 

Light wheeled 13t tank prototype by OAF from 1977 with 25 mm autocanon.

AMX-13/75

Spoiler

M60A1

Spoiler

Leopard 2A4

Spoiler

 

Leopard 2 with the best suitting camo for it.

 

 

 

Sources

The full list of sources is pretty large, and you can access it here: https://pikpikker.neocities.org/about.html

Edited January 25, 2020 by PikPikker
Adding new vehicles

[ItssLuBu 1,803]

Approved and open for discussion. 

[eleks12 1,079]

I think Austria should be in the German tree.

[Borotovas 4,500]

+1

 

I wasn't expecting an Austrian tech tree. I thought Austria didn't have as many vehicles.

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

On ‎05‎/‎01‎/‎2020 at 22:55, PikPikker said:

Would you like to see Austrian tech tree in War Thunder?

It is called Germany

[Borotovas 4,500]

53 minutes ago, Chomusuke1 said:

It is called Germany

 

Austria speaks German, and is almost identical to Germany. It's weird that those two countries didn't unify yet.

[Chomusuke1 1,223]

On ‎10‎/‎01‎/‎2020 at 00:57, Borotovas said:

It's weird that those two countries didn't unify yet

 

They tried multiple times but each time they did some foreign powers broke them up instead of minding their own business. For example in post WW I the Allied Treaty of Versailles prevented the Republic of German-Austria from joining Germany. In post WW II the Allied Third Moscow Conference broke them up after they finally unified.

 

[Submarine6 32]

+1 but I wanna see that in swiss-austria co-op  tech tree or in german tree. It can easly fill the gaps and opens new lines in german tree. And they united in ww2 so that will historic I guess

[AspandaIV 376]

The Austrian TT should be paired with either the Swiss and/or the Nordic countries since Austria was a neutral country since 1920 (with a hiatus between 1938 & 1955) and stayed neutral until 1995 and like the Nordic countries, Austria joined the EU/becoming a Non-NATO ally(PfP more specifically). Also the Austrians shared a lot of the same equipment that the Nordic countries and Switzerland used.

 

Also I suggest that you add the AMX-13, Charioteer and M60 Patton since Austria operated said tanks.

 

 

[PikPikker 445]

1 hour ago, AspandaIV said:

Also I suggest that you add the AMX-13, Charioteer and M60 Patton since Austria operated said tanks.

 

Thank you, new tanks have been added! 

[Major_K0enig 38]

this looks descent by itself, but with the Swiss will be really cool                 +1

[Solarmod 1,204]

I really don't think this would work on it's own, I think it would be better to have an Austrian-Swiss tree. Mostly because of the lack of air forces. (it goes from 1.0/2.0 planes to 6.7 planes, trust me I've done the research) But @PikPikker if you make an Austrian-Swiss tree proposal, I will be there to supplement it with my tree.

[WayOfTheWolk 1,573]

This and the Swiss tech tree need to be paired independently of Germany and France. It would certainly resolve the outrage over the placement of the SK-105.  

[AftiksPL 197]

1 hour ago, WayOfTheWolk said:

This and the Swiss tech tree need to be paired independently of Germany and France. It would certainly resolve the outrage over the placement of the SK-105.  

Austria for sure, but Switzerland? Swiss has enough machines for its own tech tree.

[eleks12 1,079]

12 hours ago, WayOfTheWolk said:

This and the Swiss tech tree need to be paired independently of Germany and France. It would certainly resolve the outrage over the placement of the SK-105.  

 

11 hours ago, AftiksPL said:

Austria for sure, but Switzerland? Swiss has enough machines for its own tech tree.

 

Well Switzerland has a vehicle count between Sweden and South Africa. And Gaijin have said in the past that they may put other nations into the Italian Tech Tree.

Italy currently have Romenia represented in a minor way. And i won't be suprised that a Swiss Tree would be added to Italy and the reasoning behind being that Italy switched sides multiple times in the first half of the 20th century and Italian is 1 of 4 official languages in Switzerland. And that Switzerland can't have a Independent Naval Tree and that Switzerland was Neutral.

 

So i see that as the most likely scenario. Even though i guess it would rustle some jimmies in certain part of the War Thunder Communnity.

[Solarmod 1,204]

On 21/02/2021 at 15:13, eleks12 said:

And Gaijin have said in the past that they may put other nations into the Italian Tech Tree.

How about no.

 

On 21/02/2021 at 03:35, AftiksPL said:

Austria for sure, but Switzerland? Swiss has enough machines for its own tech tree.

I agree with this, and after polling Swiss and Austrian friends of mine they think a Swiss-Austrian tree would be the best way of doing it, as they're both economically, and politically tied closely.