BTR-152D, Quadruple 14.5mm Guns!

[ColdMatches 943]

While USSR has the BTR-152A, the SPAAG version of the BTR-152 APC, this is not the only version that was developed. There is also the BTR-152D, which instead of housing 2x 14.5mm KPVT guns, houses 4x 14.5mm KPVT, effectively doubling the firepower.

 

Background:
 

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From the years 1950 to 1962 the Soviet Union produced ~15,000 BTR-152 APCs and exported the vehicle worldwide. One of the variants of the BTR-152 APC is the BTR-152A, an anti-aircraft version of the vehicle equipped with two 14.5mm KPV heavy machine guns with an effective range of ~1,400m against air targets. This variant entered service in 1952. Various other BTR-152 variants followed suit shortly after the introduction of the BTR-152A. One variant being the BTR-152D, which utilizes the same chassis as the BTR-152A, but has a quad mount of 14.5mms instead of the dual mount seen on the "A" version. The anti-aircraft role of the BTR-152 vehicles were limited by the rather slow traverse of the gun turret, as well as the lackluster optics. Furthermore, the BTR-152D was an rarer version of the BTR-152 variants due to the difficulties of mounting the quad 14.5mm mount.

 

Images:

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And a funny example model:

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Why? Well, the USSR SPAA tree has some serious holes for effective SPAAs, the ZSU-37 is too slow firing to be effective, as well as the ZSU-57-2 (which is more of an anti-tank spaa).

In my opinion, since the Wirlbelwind is at a BR of 3.7, this could effectively be at 3.7BR (more or less) as well for RB, since it has a quad mount of 14.5mm s instead of 20mm s.

 

Specifications:

Same as the BTR-152A in game, although slightly higher and slightly heavier with the extra set of 14.5mm guns.

 

Crew of 5 (like BTR-152A)

Mass: 8.6 tonnes

Engine: 110 hp (82 kW) at 3,000 rpm

Length: 6.55m

Width: 2.23m

Height: 2.41m

Top speed of 83kmh

 

Armament: 4x 14.5mm KPVT heavy machine guns

Rate of fire: 600rpm

150 rounds per gun, for a total of 600 rounds (2x of BTR-152A)

Horizontal angles of +/- 360 degrees

Vertical angles of +89 degrees, -5 degrees

 

Sources: 

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Book: "Tanks and Combat Vehicles of the Warsaw Pact" by Russell Phillips

https://books.google.com/books?id=3b9JDgAAQBAJ&pg=PT133&dq=BTR-152D&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjtyPy5q7foAhUFo54KHceWDksQ6AEwAnoECAUQAg#v=onepage&q=BTR-152D&f=false

 

Book: "Jane's Armour and Artillery", Jane's Publishing Company Limited.

https://books.google.com/books?id=n4TfAAAAMAAJ&q=BTR-152D&dq=BTR-152D&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjWhYLv-dnoAhVRnJ4KHTebDjQQ6AEwA3oECAAQAg

 

Pdf: The BTR Handbook- The Universal APC - APAN Community

https://community.apan.org/cfs-file/__key/docpreview-s/00-00-02-49-90/BTR-Handbook-The-Universal-APC-Sep2013.pdf

 

https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/2015/12/21st-century-asian-arms-race-guest.html

 

 

Edited April 9, 2020 by ColdMatches

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Edited April 9, 2020 by ColdMatches

[MonkeyBussiness 1,228]

+1

[WulfPack 1,693]

+1

[Milocat 4,857]

+1, this would be a nice SPAA to see alongside its twin-gun cousin. 

[FreedomTM 56]

Ussr definitely needs something after zsu 37 this would be nice but they wont put this at tier 4 isnt there any suitable spaa they can add between zsu 37 and zsu 57?

Edited April 9, 2020 by FreedomTM

[ColdMatches 943]

1 hour ago, FreedomTM said:

Ussr definitely needs something after zsu 37 this would be nice but they wont put this at tier 4 isnt there any suitable spaa they can add between zsu 37 and zsu 57?

The BTR-ZD is a good option. It's passed for consideration already.

 

[Borotovas 4,500]

+1

[Valcour 1,141]

+1  A good addition.

 

[KillaKiwi 5,478]

Yes, please!!!

[Jarms 1,558]

What BR would this be 3.3? It can't go any lower as the current BTR is 3.0 and it can't exactly go to 3.7 as I don't believe it's a counterpart to the Wirbelwind.  

[KillaKiwi 5,478]

10 hours ago, Jarms said:

What BR would this be 3.3? It can't go any lower as the current BTR is 3.0 and it can't exactly go to 3.7 as I don't believe it's a counterpart to the Wirbelwind.  

Well we could just increase the BR of the Wirbelwind to 4.3 since it's way too good for 3.7

They always ruin my day when I try to ground pound in my IL-2. Damn Germans, haven't they relized that puny 20mm HEF can't down a flying tank?

[User94998549 2,838]

+1

 

On 21/04/2020 at 14:40, KillaKiwi said:

Well we could just increase the BR of the Wirbelwind to 4.3 since it's way too good for 3.7

 

Agreed!

 

Add that freaking Italian memecar FA HS to the SPAA that badly needs an uptier. That thing is even better than M163 and its at 3.7, bloody disgrace.

[eleks12 1,079]

Reminds me of the Quad Cannon from C&C Generals! +1 

 

Edited September 13, 2020 by eleks12

[FreedomTM 56]

On 23/04/2020 at 18:57, eleks12 said:

Quad Cannon from C&C Generals

was my favourite thing in that game but m16 looks more like it since it was a halftrack

[ThedepthPunisher 194]

This is just beautiful to look at with these 4x14.5 mm! Exellente proposal! It shouldn’t be difficult to implement, just to change the turret. +1 

[G3cko873 506]

+1

while I've always liked the BTR-152E more, as it has a slightly better chasis, I would take anything at this rate, no like seriously, anything, just give us anything.

[伊地知虹夏正在点国策 1,289]

+1

[Commissar_Grub 123]

+1

 

3.7 would be nice for this one, along with a bump in BR for the wirb and R3 to 4.3

[DaKomunist 42]

+1

This and the quad 20mm sherman would be awesome

[PvtNewb 12]

+1, 3.7 would be awesome for this machine, definitely an upgrade over the dual KPVT

[corevino 308]

+1

[AraMacao 1,164]

Yes.

[TerraStalker 158]

+1 Soviets needs counterpart of Wirbelwind