Arcade players left scatching thier head again??

[Roger13R@psn 1,138]

Thanks for making WWM RB friendly only (AGAIN). We arcade players argued so much during the last WWM discussion and it was all for nothing. Now your throwing new players in the mix that never flew helicopters, that never drove out high BR tanks, and players that never flew jets. Real AWSOME idea this WWM is  Great job Gaijin HQ.  Not to mention I haven't even played a single WWM battle yet because of your "technical difficulties" . Fire the guys (If any) that do the testing and hire new people. Advertising something we can't play.. Make us earn stars we can obtain.. All on day one 

Edited July 2, 2020 by *Roger13R

[Nostadad 428]

Just now, *Roger13R said:

Thanks for making WWM RB friendly only (AGAIN). We arcade players argued so much during the last WWM discussion and it was all for nothing. Now your throwing new players in the mix that never flew helicopters, that never drove out high BR tanks, and players that never flew jets. Real AWSOME idea this WWM is  Great job Gaijin HQ.  Not to mention I haven't even played a single WWM battle yet because of your "technical difficulties" . Fire the guys (If any) that do the testing and hire new people. Advertising something we can't play.. Make us earn stars we can obtain.. All in day one 

we should get rid of arcade man. grow up

[Josephs_Piano 7,044]

4 minutes ago, Dimitri_Rudov said:

we should get rid of arcade man. grow up

 

It is not he who needs to grow up.

[Aerobane 4,140]

10 minutes ago, *Roger13R said:

Thanks for making WWM RB friendly only (AGAIN). We arcade players argued so much during the last WWM discussion and it was all for nothing. Now your throwing new players in the mix that never flew helicopters, that never drove out high BR tanks, and players that never flew jets. Real AWSOME idea this WWM is  Great job Gaijin HQ.  Not to mention I haven't even played a single WWM battle yet because of your "technical difficulties" . Fire the guys (If any) that do the testing and hire new people. Advertising something we can't play.. Make us earn stars we can obtain.. All on day one 

Making it arcade mode is just as annoying for fans of RB. For example I can't stand arcade flight models, HUD, aiming assist, etc. So its not as simple as you make it out to be. You aren't entitled to make everyone else play a simpler version of the game because you don't like RB. If significantly more players participate in arcade events then I can understand the reasoning, but just saying that you don't like RB therefore it should be AB is pretty meaningless. Its not that difficult to learn RB flight models/aiming, and friendlies still have HUD so identifying friend from foe is easy. I'm not sure how feasible splitting WWM into arcade and RB would be, but I guess that would be the best solution if feasible.

 

 

 

 

[Roger13R@psn 1,138]

I just want fairness for something gaijin advertises "anyone can play". That statement by Gaijin is true but it's not Fair for "everyone" this WWM. Certain senerios of WWM should have something for Arcade players. It doesn't have to be full blown RB mechanics. I'm fine with a RB battle here and there, but give us Arcade players some AB senerios here and there also. 

Edited July 2, 2020 by *Roger13R

[Roger13R@psn 1,138]

1 minute ago, Aerobane said:

Making it arcade mode is just as annoying for fans of RB. For example I can't stand arcade flight models, HUD, aiming assist, etc. So its not as simple as you make it out to be. You aren't entitled to make everyone else play a simpler version of the game because you don't like RB. If significantly more players participate in arcade events then I can understand the reasoning, but just saying that you don't like RB therefore it should be AB is pretty meaningless. Its not that difficult to learn RB flight models/aiming, and friendlies still have HUD so identifying friend from foe is easy. I'm not sure how feasible splitting WWM into arcade and RB would be, but I guess that would be the best solution if feasible.

 

 

 

 

If arcade players have to deal with RB mechanics playing WWM than RB players should endure some AB battles has well WWM is supposed to be for "all players". Gaijin encourages all to play but look at the big picture. It's one game mode that has no split between RB and AB. I'm happy that RB players enjoy it but AB players should be able to enjoy it also. 

[JimmyHat57971 37]

Can you imagine if they ran a WWM that was EARLY WAR?  You could have French tanks vs German tanks, Italian tanks vs Brits in Africa, heck maybe even a Barbarossa battle too!  

 

No idea why we've only had late/mid war scenarios and no early war scenarios. 

[Unaimed73509 44]

27 minutes ago, JimmyHat57971 said:

Can you imagine if they ran a WWM that was EARLY WAR?  You could have French tanks vs German tanks, Italian tanks vs Brits in Africa, heck maybe even a Barbarossa battle too!  

 

No idea why we've only had late/mid war scenarios and no early war scenarios. 

 

How many $50 vehicle packs is gaijin going to sell to people trying to grind out tier 1 or 2 french/italian/british/german tanks?

[Mefiistos 5]

1 hour ago, Unaimed73509 said:

 

How many $50 vehicle packs is gaijin going to sell to people trying to grind out tier 1 or 2 french/italian/british/german tanks?

Not enough to fast repair errors, crushes or bugs, and not enough to stop for month or 2 months add New BULL_SHITT content and start repair hundreds of reporting bugs or game errors!!!!

[corevino 308]

I got your back. I also want to see my arcade gameplay in mode. Each group should have its own mode than having to play this hybrid that nobody is happy with. But as long as you keep on using rewards, nothing will change, because apparently there hasn't been enough feedback since the closed beta came together, which criticized the same thing every time. This "I want this and I don't care about the rest" mentality just has to stop.

 

 

[BlackFlagger 199]

8 hours ago, *Roger13R said:

Thanks for making WWM RB friendly only (AGAIN). We arcade players argued so much during the last WWM discussion and it was all for nothing. Now your throwing new players in the mix that never flew helicopters, that never drove out high BR tanks, and players that never flew jets. Real AWSOME idea this WWM is  Great job Gaijin HQ.  Not to mention I haven't even played a single WWM battle yet because of your "technical difficulties" . Fire the guys (If any) that do the testing and hire new people. Advertising something we can't play.. Make us earn stars we can obtain.. All on day one 

I had the same experience for the last two seasons when they combined AB and RB mechanics, it was about time for it to be RB. I don't know what a solution would be for this, I guess you could try to split it between the game modes like squadron battles but then you will have a lot more work to do with balancing and different lineups and maps.

Edited July 2, 2020 by BlackFlagger

[Nobal 18]

Now I am not against AB, I am tho now playing only RB for like 5 years or so. But RB isnt that hard to learn from AB. Now imagine this. Next WWM will be SB

[GhostSoph@psn 2,213]

6 hours ago, BlackFlagger said:

you will have a lot more work to do with balancing and different lineups and maps.

Depends on how you look at it...

 

Suppose instead of Cold War and Chinese Farm they choose ONLY ONE...and then rotate between RB and AB?

(Players who are willing can play both modes, mind you)

 

So...we get LESS DEVELOPMENT WORK and both "factions" can play...

 

BTW...in AB you would have to have NATIONAL TEAMS of course...not free for all...but not an issue i think. (If it was me, AB would ALWAYS have national teams...one feature in AB i dont like).

 

I did not play much World War...many issues with the RB mechanics...

I would prefer a AB version with a few RB features where needed...like nations and some ammo reloading adjustments.

Edited July 2, 2020 by *GhostSoph

[BlackFlagger 199]

10 minutes ago, *GhostSoph said:

Suppose instead of Cold War and Chinese Farm they choose ONLY ONE...and then rotate between RB and AB?

(Players who are willing can play both modes, mind you)

 

I would prefer a AB version with a few RB features where needed...like nations and some ammo reloading adjustments.

That would be too boring, I think we need more scenarios not less, I don't wanna play chinese farm for 20 days lol.

 

Like I said, atm I like this better than the other two wwm seasons which were a mix of RB and AB.

[GhostSoph@psn 2,213]

32 minutes ago, BlackFlagger said:

That would be too boring, I think we need more scenarios not less, I don't wanna play chinese farm for 20 days lol.

 

Like I said, atm I like this better than the other two wwm seasons which were a mix of RB and AB.

I wonder if you thought the same if WWM was done in AB only

 

That said, i actually get WW target audience is more RB...but i hope there is a market to make it in AB...

[BlackFlagger 199]

7 minutes ago, *GhostSoph said:

I wonder if you thought the same if WWM was done in AB only

 

That said, i actually get WW target audience is more RB...but i hope there is a market to make it in AB...

Well, that was the argument for the past 2 season when we complained about the mix of AB and RB which is really odd, a lot of people said it would split the playerbase. Game mode is a matter of taste.

Edited July 2, 2020 by BlackFlagger

[Wolf_89 2,525]

I'm glad they got rid of Arcade completely. Because now it allows us to use more flanking tactics.

And we wont get a magic marker above us. To let everyone know where we are.

Or a lead marker's. To help SPAA. Now aircraft has a good chance of surviving.

At least for a short time  I know all the SPAA in wwm s3 has radar. But still.

 

First wwm sucked. At least for me. Since i'm RB/SB player.

Sec wwm was more acceptable. Since the reduced the AB mechanics.

Third wwm so far looks good. At least to me. If we ignore the server problems

 

I know RB/SB takes more "skill" or knowledge compared to AB. 

Since the game wont tell you where to aim. And the vehicles feels heavier/slower.

 

Only way for Gaijin to make everyone happy. Is to give all mode their WWM.

But i doubt they will do that. But it depends on how many people will play WWM.

 

And those that play AB/RB. Remember the SB people have to play with AB/RB mechanics.

If they want to play WWM. So you AB players aren't the only one that has to "suffer"

[Wolf_89 2,525]

15 hours ago, JimmyHat57971 said:

Can you imagine if they ran a WWM that was EARLY WAR?  You could have French tanks vs German tanks, Italian tanks vs Brits in Africa, heck maybe even a Barbarossa battle too!  

 

No idea why we've only had late/mid war scenarios and no early war scenarios. 

Well. This is the 3rd time they do WWM. So they might do a early WW2 scenario next time.

Or a even more modern scenario  Or maybe a Korea scenario. There are so many options.

And it does not matter what they choose. There will always be some one that wants something else  

[GhostSoph@psn 2,213]

I am AB player...and i think pure RB was a good decision...better to have some happy players...than all unhappy

 

My issue is that on PS4 GFRB is much harder...PC players can adjust visuals AND aim faster with mouse...

Worse in WWM as stakes are higher

 

Glad RB players ate happy...good for game...and hopefully we will get something for AB.

6 minutes ago, Wolf_89 said:

early WW2 scenario next time

I think we had one if first WWM...Barbarrossa.

[BlackFlagger 199]

2 hours ago, *GhostSoph said:

I think we had one if first WWM...Barbarrossa.

I wouldn't mind seeing even earlier than that, maybe spanish civil war ? I think WWM is pretty interesting regardless of the BR really.

[Haxburch 1,124]

Do what i have done .... i did not play WWM with arcade mode and i will never do it . I play now because its RB mode ...

Sorry but your AB is just anoying to me ...

Edited July 3, 2020 by Haxburch

[Panssarikolonna 1,086]

13 minutes ago, Haxburch said:

Do what i have done .... i did not play WWM with arcade mode and i will never do it . I play now because its RB mode ...

Sorry but your AB is just anoying to me ...

Should we arcade players abandon this WW because it's now RB?

Do you quit everything which is annoying you?

 

This mode has been changed to RB only because of TOP CLANS.

This mode is not for beginners with jets and helicopters and top tier tanks.

They have no clue how to use those things.

[Haxburch 1,124]

24 minutes ago, Panssarikolonna said:

Should we arcade players abandon this WW because it's now RB?

Do you quit everything which is annoying you?

 

This mode has been changed to RB only because of TOP CLANS.

This mode is not for beginners with jets and helicopters and top tier tanks.

They have no clue how to use those things.

Dont know what you want dude ... i just say i did not play WWM if its was AB mode ... because i dont like this ....

I dont care what you do ...

Yes i quit all what i dont like ...

Beginner dont need to have any clue they can just learn or leave ... also show me where sombody sayed this mode is for beginners.

Every season before was for beginners with arcade mode and I hated it and always said it here. Many others too and I am glad that it is not ....

[Panssarikolonna 1,086]

18 minutes ago, Haxburch said:

Dont know what you want dude ... i just say i did not play WWM if its was AB mode ... because i dont like this ....

I dont care what you do ...

Yes i quit all what i dont like ...

Beginner dont need to have any clue they can just learn or leave ... also show me where sombody sayed this mode is for beginners.

Every season before was for beginners with arcade mode and I hated it and always said it here. Many others too and I am glad that it is not ....

This mode SHOULD be for ALL players no matter if he/she has 40.000 battles and all vehicles researched or just Tier I open and 100 battles.

Now this mode benefits ONLY clans with top players with top vehicles.

My suggestion is that ALL vehicles which are on the list would come fully spaded wit all mods opened.

Now you will get only crap vehicles if you don't have Germany and Russia tree searched.

I would have left helis also out of this WW.

[Haxburch 1,124]

22 minutes ago, Panssarikolonna said:

This mode SHOULD be for ALL players no matter if he/she has 40.000 battles and all vehicles researched or just Tier I open and 100 battles.

Now this mode benefits ONLY clans with top players with top vehicles.

My suggestion is that ALL vehicles which are on the list would come fully spaded wit all mods opened.

Now you will get only crap vehicles if you don't have Germany and Russia tree searched.

I would have left helis also out of this WW.

Fortunately, it doesn't depend on what you want. Because I don't want that.

 

Gaijin said first of all that this mode should only be for clans. Now that's not the case. It's a good thing. You don't have to have researched anything to play with, you just don't get every vehicle. I generally don't see a problem.