techtree [RANK 0] BeNeLux (Belgium, Netherlands & Luxembourg) Ground Forces Techtree

[super_cacti 1,071]

Hello ladies and gentlemen, today I bring you a very interesting BeNeLux techtree idea for the future of War Thunder!

(Incase you do not know, the BeNeLux is the combination of Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg)

 

This is techtree is all about the Rank 0 idea!

We've seen Rank 0 pop up here and there as something Gaijin could do in the future, and considering we want to expand our BeNeLux project as far as possible, we've decided to make a Rank 0 techtree for the air forces!

 

First let's get the whole idea of Rank 0 out of the way. So what is Rank 0 and how do we see it from an ingame point of view.

Rank 0 is normaly viewed as just that, a new rank that it placed before Rank I, and is called Rank 0. 

This makes sense, but when you look at the idea of Rank 0, that being WW1 and interwar period vehicles, then a single rank where all of these vehicles are located is way to small.

 

That is why we have changed the concept of Rank 0 a bit. Let me explain.

Our Rank 0 techtree is split up in three Ranks. So this techtree alone has Rank I up to Rank III. And the BR range is from 1.0 till 3.7.

 

Let's say this techtree get's added into the game, what would happen to the current Rank I vehicles?

Because this Rank 0 idea is already from Rank I to Rank III, then we want to simply move all the current vehicles up in Rank and BR.

So the current ingame Rank I BR 1.0 vehicles will now be Rank IV BR 4.0 vehicles. And for example a Rank VI BR 10.0 will now be a Rank IX 13.0.

So all the vehicles currently ingame will just be moved up in Rank and BR, and will not be affected in any other way.

 

Now that we've explained the idea a bit, let's show you the techtree!

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We can see that we still have our techtree set up in the same way as the normal ground forces techtree. The first vehicles you unlock are only armed with machineguns (7.62mm or above) so this gameplay is very much a shoot and run one. Just like the current Rank I battles it tends to turn chaotic very fast.

Rank II and III dive more into heavy MG's and 37mm cannons and such.

 

Also something to clear up, we've got those color explanations in the top right. These are present on all our techtrees, but for this example none of those vehicles are present.

So you can ignore the three colors.

 

Here you can find all the vehicles present in this techtree. We normaly only cover the special/unique vehicles in these posts, but because this techtree is rather small we are going to cover all the vehicles.

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Armoured cars line

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Rank I

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Minerva AC

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The Minerva Armoured Car was a military armoured car expediently developed from Minerva civilian automobiles by Belgium at the start of the First World War.

 

Armament:

1 x 8 mm Hotchkiss Model 1909 machine-gun

 

Armour:

up to 4 mm (0.16 in)

 

Performance:

Maximum speed, 40 km/h (25 mph)

 

Wilton-Fijenoord AC

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These armoured cars are made by the Dock and shipyard company Wilton-Fijenoord Limited, based in Rotterdam. These cars were designed upon a Krupp chassis. They were ment for usage in the Dutch Indies.

 

Armament:

3 x 7.9 mm machine guns

(An additional machine gun could be mounted on top for air devense)

 

Armour:

3-10 mm (0.11-0.39 in)

 

Performance:

70 km/h (43.5 mph) road / 30 km/h (18.6 mph) off-road

 

 

Rank II

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Marmon-Herrington Mk III

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The Marmon-Herrington Mk III was an amoured car that was sold to many different countries, including the Netherlands. These were used in the Dutch East Indies.

 

Armament:

1 x 14 mm Boys anti-tank rifle in the turret

1 x 7.62 mm Vickers machine gun in the hull

 

Armour:

up to 12 mm (0.47 in)

 

Performance:

80 km/h (50 mph)

 

Alvis Stausser AC3D

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This is another armoured car that was sold to other countries. Just like most armoured cars used by the Dutch, these were used in the Dutch East Indies.

 

Armament:

1 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 in the turret
1 x 6.5 mm Vickers in the hull

 

Armour:

up to 13 mm (0.51 in)

 

Performance:

96 km/h (60 mph)

 

 

Rank III

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Mors AC

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The Mors armoured car is very similar to the Minerva Armoured Car. The biggest difference being the 37mm cannon instead of a single machine gun.

 

Armament:

1 x 37mm Hotchkiss
1 x 8mm Hotchkiss

 

Armour:

3 to 8 mm (0.12 - 0.31 in)

 

Performance:

35-40 km/h (22 - 25 mph)

 

 

 

Light/Medium Tanks line

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Rank I

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Vickers-Carden-Loyd Light Amphibious Tank

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The Vickers-Carden-Loyd light amphibious tank, was not taken into British service. But a number of them were sold to other countries. The Dutch also had a number of these tanks.

 

Armament:

2 x 7.62mm Browning M1919 in the turret

 

Armour:

up to 11 mm (0.43 in)

 

Performance:

43 km/h (27mph) on road / 6km/h (3,7 mph) in water

 

Marmon-Herrington CTLS-4TAY

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The Marmon-Herrington Combat Tank Light Series were a series of American light tanks/tankettes that were produced for the export market at the start of the Second World War. The Netherlands was one of the biggest users of Marmon Herrington tanks, so almost all the Marmon Herrington models have been in Dutch service.

 

Armament:

4 x 7.62mm Browning 

 

Armour:

up to 12.7mm (0.50 in)

 

Performance:

53 km/h (33 mph)

 

 

Rank II

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GMC Improvised Armoured Car

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In the early 1920s, the Netherlands did not feel a need to acquire any armored vehicles. There was already one armored car operating in the Dutch army, based on an Ehrhardt Kraftwagen-Flugabwehrkanone taken from the Germans in 1918. These vehicles only served the purpose of familiarizing the army with the use of armored vehicles.

For the same purpose, an improvised vehicle, made to look like an armored car, was built in 1924 in a local army workshop.

 

Armament:

1 x 37mm Hotchkiss semi-automatic

 

Armour:

unknown

 

Performance:

25 km/h (15.5 mph)

 

 

Rank III

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Berliet VUDB 4 (37mm)

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This is an French armourec car in service with Belgium.

 

Armament:

1 x SA18 37mm
1 x 7.5mm MAC

 

Armour:

3 to 7 mm (0.12 - 0.28 in)

 

Performance:

55 km/h (34.2 mph)

 

 

Medium/Heavy Tanks line

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Rank I

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Carden-loyd Mk. VI

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The Carden Loyd tankette is one of the most basic tankette designs that was used all over the world. The Dutch too had some of these in service during WW2.

 

Armament:

1 x 7.62mm Vickers

 

Armour:

6 to 9 mm (0.24 - 0.35 in)

 

Performance:

40 km/h (25 mph)

 

Vickers Light Tank M1936

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This was another Vickers Light Tank which was used by a couple of different countries. The Dutch used these in the Dutch East Indies.

 

Armament:

1 x 7.62mm Vickers

 

Armour:

up to 12 mm (0.47 in)

 

Performance:

52.3 km/h (32.5 mph)

 

 

Rank II

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Vickers Light Tank M1936 early

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This is an earlier model of the Vickers Light Tank M1936, with two 7.62mm Brownings in the turret.

 

Armament:

2 x 7.62mm Browning M1919 in the turret

 

Armour:

up to 12 mm (0.47 in)

 

Performance:

52.3 km/h (32.5 mph)

 

 

Rank III

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Renault FT (SA-18)

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The Renault FT was one of the most revolutionary and influential tank designs in history. Belgium also used these tanks, armed with the SA-18 cannon with an additional shield in front of it.

 

Armament:

1 x 37mm SA-18 Puteaux

 

Armour:

8 to 22 mm (0.31 to 0.87 in)

 

Performance:

7.5 km/h (4.66 mph)

 

 

 

Tank Destroyers line

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Rank I

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Rank II

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Thornycroft w/ 8tl Vickers Armstrong

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This was an anti-air truck used by the Dutch during the outbreak of WW2. The gun only had HE shells.

 

Armament:

1 x 76mm QF 3-inch 20 CWT MK 3

 

Armour:

None.

 

Performance:

Maximum speed, 20 km/h (12,4 mph)

 

 

Rank III

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Braat Overvalwagen Marine

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The Overvalwagen was a Dutch armoured car made to be used in the Dutch East Indies. The Marine model has a 37 mm gun with a shield mounted on the back.

 

Armament:

1 x 37mm model 1870

 

Armour:

up to 20 mm (0.79 in)

 

Performance:

40 km/h (25 mph)

 

 

 

 

 

SPAA/Support Tanks line

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Rank I

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BSA G14 w/ 7.9mm Schwarzloze

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Another vehicle used by the Dutch during the outbreak of WW2. Not much to say about this one, what you see on the photo is exactly what you get.

 

Armament:

1 x 7.9mm Schwarzloze

 

Armour:

None

 

Performance:

Top speed is unclear

 

 

Rank II

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Ford/Marmon Herrinton LLDMG5

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http://www.geocities.ws/marmonherrington/images/truck_usa_lldmg5-4.jpg

 

A unique armoured car that was used by the Netherlands. The three machine guns made it rather heavily armed for a normal car.

 

Armament:

3 x 7.62mm Browning

 

Armour:

None

 

Performance:

Top speed is unclear

 

 

Rank III

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Chevrolet RD AA

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A modified Chevrolet truck with two machine gun mounts on the back.

 

Armament:

2 x 7.62mm Vickers

 

Armour:

Close to none

 

Performance:

Top speed is unclear

 

 

 

Premium line

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Rank I

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SAVA Model 1914

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This is another armoured car that is very similar to the Minerva Armoured Car. Only the SAVA was much more armoured.

 

Armament:

1 x 8 mm Hotchkiss Model 1909 machine-gun

 

Armour:

Not clear, most likely around 10mm (0.39 in)

 

Performance:

Maximum speed, 40 km/h (25 mph)

 

 

Rank II

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Peugeot AC

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(We specifically mean the car in the back, not the one with a machinegun you see in front)

 

A French armoured car is service with Belgium. This one too looks very similar to the Minerva Armoured Car.

 

Armament:

1 x 37mm Hotchkiss

 

Armour:

up to 4 mm (0.16 in)

 

Performance:

35-40 km/h (22 - 25 mph)

 

 

Rank III

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Ford V3000 w/ 20mm Madsen

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An improvised truck used by the Dutch during the German invasion. The 20 mm Madsen proved to be quite powerfull and suprised many German soldiers who were on the recieving end of one.

 

Armament:

1 x 20mm Madsen

 

Armour:

Close to none

 

Performance:

Top speed is unclear

 

 

 

Event line

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Rank I

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Universal Carrier w/ 7.7 Type 92

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This is a Dutch Universal Carrier that has a captured Japanese Type 92 machinegun on top.

 

Armament:

1 x 7.7mm Type 92

 

Armour:

7–10 mm (0.28 - 0.39 in)

 

Performance:

48 km/h (30 mph)

 

 

Rank II

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Erhardt V 'Potkachel'

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An armoured car in use by the Dutch. It was based on an Ehrhardt Kraftwagen-Flugabwehrkanone taken from the Germans in 1918.

 

Armament:

1 x (most likely) 37mm Hotchkiss

 

Armour:

up to 9 mm (0.35 in)

 

Performance:

61.3 km/h (38 mph)

 

 

Rank III

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Special thanks to the entire team of people that helped put this techtree together. All of their names can be found in the top of the image.

 

Be sure to check out the other BeNeLux Techtrees!

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Air

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Ground

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Naval

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Helicopter

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Make sure to support this on the BeNeLux Techtree Discord!

https://discord.gg/PEW9bFp

Edited April 23, 2021 by super_cacti
Newest version of the techtree.

[ItssLuBu 1,803]

Approved and open for discussion. 

[eleks12 1,079]

+1

 

 

[super_cacti 1,071]

1 hour ago, eleks12 said:

+1

 

 

 

Yeah that can work really well to!

 

There are so many possibilities when it comes to the Rank 0 idea.

[WayOfTheWolk 1,573]

1 hour ago, super_cacti said:

 

Yeah that can work really well to!

 

There are so many possibilities when it comes to the Rank 0 idea.

For your poll on the second question you should add an "Yes, only if the other nations receive Rank 0" option to make it more transparent. 

[super_cacti 1,071]

2 minutes ago, WayOfTheWolk said:

For your poll on the second question you should add an "Yes, only if the other nations receive Rank 0" option to make it more transparent. 

 

The question itself already says that: 

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Would you like to see the BeNeLux ingame, with these Rank 0 vehicles when/if those are added ingame?

 

[WayOfTheWolk 1,573]

8 minutes ago, super_cacti said:

 

The question itself already says that: 

 

You make it sound as if Benelux won't come in its entirety without its Rank 0 tree.

[super_cacti 1,071]

14 hours ago, WayOfTheWolk said:

You make it sound as if Benelux won't come in its entirety without its Rank 0 tree.

 

I've changed the question a bit, should be more clear now.