[Feedback] Counter insurgency aircraft.

[AspandaIV 376]

Continuation from the previous post

UTVA 66 (Yugoslavia)

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Additional picture of a Yak 52B with a different loadout

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Dornier Do 27 (Germany/Portugal) Note: even though it was made in Germany, Portugal is the only country that I know of that used it as a COIN Aircraft

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T-2 Buckeye (US) Note: the images shown are T-2E's, a export variant for the T-2 Buckeye for the Hellenic Airforce

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AT-33A (US) Note: AT-33A's are typically export variants of the T-33A, primarily for Third world countries who want a cheap yet reliable/easy to maintain attack aircraft, the images show AT-33A's used by the Bolivian Airforce

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G.91T family (Italy) Note: Germany and Portugal also used this aircraft so it can appear in both German and Italian TT's (Italian designation: G.91T/1, German designation: G.9.91T/3)

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[Ein79 5,752]

On 07/08/2020 at 06:01, blockhaj said:

My personal opinion is that they sould be added to the helicopter trees of nations.

 

Only this way. No place for them in AirRB - where to place Saab MFI-17 Supporter? At BR 1.0 fighting pre-WWII biplanes? 

We already have problem what to do with Saab SK60/105..and they are already immersion spoiling by fighting WWII jets.

 

[blockhaj 3,560]

4 hours ago, Einherjer1979 said:

Only this way. No place for them in AirRB - where to place Saab MFI-17 Supporter? At BR 1.0 fighting pre-WWII biplanes? 
We already have problem what to do with Saab SK60/105..and they are already immersion spoiling by fighting WWII jets.

While i do find it enjoyable to fly the Sk60 in air rb i do agree that it should be fighting helicopters from a historical point of view.

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Another continuation of the previous posts

Boulton Paul Balliol T.21 (UK)

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Percival Provost (UK) Note: British Provosts are never armed but Provosts in foreign Service (more specifically Irish, Rhodesian and Omani Provosts) are armed

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Flecther/Toyo FD-25 (US/NZ/Japan): This is the COIN aircraft variant of the Flecther/PAC FD-24, a prototype of both vehicles are made in the US by Flecther while all production aircraft are made by their respective companies for their respective variants, in the case of the FD-25, it was licensed built by Toyo Aviation Industry primilarly for SEA nations like South Vietnam and Cambodia

Source:
https://www.aerospace.co.nz/aircraft/heritage-aircraft/fletcher-xxxx-25-defender#prettyPhoto
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/フレッチャー_FD-25

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Additional image of G.91T/1 with rocketpods

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Caproni Vizzola C22J (Italy)

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OV-1A Mohawk (US)

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Temco/AJI T-610 Super Pinto/Calí (US/Philippines) Note: Even though it was built in the US, the Americans were never intended to use this aircraft themselves instead this aircraft is intended to be used by the Philippine Air Force

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Temco T-35 Buckaroo (US)

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Temco Model 58 (US)

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Aermacchi AM.3CM Bosbok (Italy/South Africa) and SIAI-Marchetti SM.1019 (Italy): I grouped these two together since they have a similar design and have identical weapons loadout due to having the same load limit on their hardpoint

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Additional armaments for the Percival Provost

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Percival Provost Tested with 2 250lbs bombs

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BAC Jet Provost (UK) with alternate loadouts from the RAF, RAAF, Sudanese & South Yemenese Air forces

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[blockhaj 3,560]

These are super cool. They are late RP-3's fiitted with sloped fins. This was done from ca 1953 onwards.

 

These are cool. They are french t10 rockets.

[AspandaIV 376]

19 hours ago, blockhaj said:

These are super cool. They are late RP-3's fiitted with sloped fins. This was done from ca 1953 onwards.

 

These are cool. They are french t10 rockets.

Is there any meaningful difference between the slopped finned RP-3's and the regular ones, also if it can carry T10's there is a good chance it can carry T151's since if i recall correctly they use the same mounts as the T10

Btw these are Burmese Provosts so some of the armaments used by Burma are unique to their Provosts

[blockhaj 3,560]

6 hours ago, AspandaIV said:

Is there any meaningful difference between the slopped finned RP-3's and the regular ones?

Well historically it improves accuracy and puts less stress on the fins. Fins could brake loose if they got too much stress.

 

6 hours ago, AspandaIV said:

If it can carry T10's there is a good chance it can carry T151's since if i recall correctly they use the same mounts as the T10.

T151? I assume u mean the T10 151? If so then yes, its just a different warhead for the T10 rocket.

[Cedjoe 5,482]

On 03/05/2021 at 15:33, blockhaj said:

These are super cool. They are late RP-3's fiitted with sloped fins. This was done from ca 1953 onwards.

 

These are cool. They are french t10 rockets.

Interesting, never knew Myanmar had T.10s, maybe they received some in the early 50s 

[OsO73 491]

A few other COIN aircraft (and another ones pressed into its role)

 

Morane Saulnier 760 (FAA)

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B-45 Mentor

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T-34C Turbo mentor

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I.Ae.35 Huanquero

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Ia.58 Pucara and its variants 

A-X2 (Garret engines)

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IA.58A (Astazou engines) 

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IA.58B (enlarged fuselage to house 30mm DEFAs)

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IA.58C (single seater version, more firepower)

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IA.66 (4 bladed props, Garret engines)

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Edited May 8, 2021 by OsO73

[ManOfHarlech 4,428]

On 07/08/2020 at 06:01, blockhaj said:

Counter insurgency aircraft (short COIN AC) are slow low powered military aircraft designed to perform anti tank missions using Rockets and ATGM's much like a helicopter.

Does the Swordfish Mk.II with 8xRP-3 qualify as a COIN???

[blockhaj 3,560]

On 08/05/2021 at 18:08, ManOfHarlech said:

Does the Swordfish Mk.II with 8xRP-3 qualify as a COIN???

Not really.

[ManOfHarlech 4,428]

15 hours ago, blockhaj said:

Not really.

 

Anyway, from my experience with the Swordfish, these aircraft with unguided rockets might have a very hard time due to their very low speed...

Edited May 10, 2021 by ManOfHarlech

[blockhaj 3,560]

57 minutes ago, ManOfHarlech said:

 

Anyway, from my experience with the Swordfish, these aircraft with unguided rockets might have a very hard time due to their very low speed...

Well considering that it is 1.0 i usually do very good in it.

[ManOfHarlech 4,428]

8 minutes ago, blockhaj said:

Well considering that it is 1.0 i usually do very good in it.

Hmm, good for you. I usually get shot down by tanks, either with MG or their cannons. Yes, I can score 1 or 2 kills but that's just not enough for an aircraft with 8 rockets...

[Cedjoe 5,482]

On 08/05/2021 at 17:50, OsO73 said:

A few other COIN aircraft (and another ones pressed into its role)

 

Morane Saulnier 760 (FAA)

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Listed that one here 

Oh and just noticed this one has Matra-SAMM rocket pods

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AU-24A Stallion (US/Cambodia)

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AU-23A Peacemaker (US/Switzerland) Note: All examples shown are AU-23's operated by the Royal Thai Airforce

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Aermacchi/Valmet L-90TP "Redigo" (Finland) Note: Most of the examples shown are from the Mexican Naval Air arm since those are the only images I can find that has it's payloads equipped

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3 hours ago, AspandaIV said:

Aermacchi/Valmet L-90TP "Redigo" (Finland) Note: Most of the examples shown are from the Mexican Naval Air arm since those are the only images I can find that has it's payloads equipped

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L-90TP's far as I'm aware weren't armed during their Finnish career as armed trainer role was assigned to BAE Hawk's and earlier L-70's filled the basic trainer role. 

 

Blue Air Training's N275RX, former Finnish AF RG-2 (Still has the Warthog emblem from the FiAF days),

OH-VTS, later I-RDGO, promotional plane used by Valmet/Aermacchi, later went to Mexico?

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Edited May 17, 2021 by mixu83

[AspandaIV 376]

11 hours ago, mixu83 said:

L-90TP's far as I'm aware weren't armed during their Finnish career as armed trainer role was assigned to BAE Hawk's and earlier L-70's filled the basic trainer role. 

 

Blue Air Training's N275RX, former Finnish AF RG-2 (Still has the Warthog emblem from the FiAF days),

OH-VTS, later I-RDGO, promotional plane used by Valmet/Aermacchi, later went to Mexico?

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Thanks for the insight and the images since it shows off alternative loadouts for the L-90

And yes Mexico does operate them (exclusively by the Navy) and they still do as COIN aircraft

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Edited June 19, 2021 by _Condottiero_

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Technoavia SM-92P "Finist" (Russia)

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Beechcraft YAU-22A (US), A prototype COIN variant of the Beechcraft Bonanza

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More Images of the Cessna O-2 Skymaster with weapons loadout all examples are from the USAF

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L-29 "Delfin" (Czechoslovakia), Note: This plane was used by both the USSR & East Germany, also the PRC brought a couple for evaluation

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L-39C & ZO (Czechoslovakia) Note: The L-39C was used by the USSR/Russia while the L-39ZO was used by East Germany, the main meaningful difference between the two is that the C only has 2 hardpoints while the ZO has four

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Convair Model 48 Charger (US)

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Lockheed CL-760 (US)

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OV-10 Bronco equipped with bombs

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Additional images of the O-1 Bird Dog with it's armament loads

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TAI Hurkus (Turkey)

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Calidus/Bader B-250 (Brazil/UAE)

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Edited June 29, 2021 by AspandaIV

[yoyolast 1,710]

Didn't know this topic existed until now, I guess I might share here this Israeli COIN aircraft (though arguably as a COIN aircraft it more so represents several central and south American countries), the IAI 201 Arava:

[Iron_physik 3,485]

On 29/06/2021 at 10:42, AspandaIV said:

OV-10 Bronco equipped with bombs

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thats the prototype YOV-10A