In search of French Navy's first 2 tiers

[Ruthless95 1,177]

I can not find any french tier 1 and 2 worthy boats that isn't from ww1.

That could explain the reason why this section has been empty for the longest time.

has anybody have any idea what is going to occupy the french navy's tier 1 and 2 in game?

[Cedjoe 5,482]

There’s a bunch here :

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/1578-france/

Listed here :

 

 

[MILESPARVUS 1,100]

Bah, forum logged me out while I was writing up this post. The list above pretty good, but I spent time lookign this stuff up, not going ot waste it now. Excluding the British and American equipment they received during the war, and the German and Italian stuff after, they do have a few options. Navypedia has a rather comprehensive list of French boats under escorts and coastal forces. A couple highlights: CH5 submarine chasers, mostly completed in 1940, VTB23 MTBs completed in 1940 (which made their way into the Royal Navy, as MGB-61 is one of these. The VTBs would ideally have their French armament), P9785 motor launches completed in 1954 with 4x2 .50 cals, VC1 motor launches, completed between 1956-59, armed with 2x Oerliikons. The top boats could be the Trident-class, though I don't know how much the SS.12 would mess with naval gameplay.

 

For Frigates They could get the Le Corse and Le Normand-class (both very similar to each other), followed by the Commandant Riviére-class (which looks like it's rather similar to the F220 Köln). There's a few other corvettes and sub chasers that can make up these tiers as well.

[Cedjoe 5,482]

50 minutes ago, MILESPARVUS said:

Bah, forum logged me out while I was writing up this post. The list above pretty good, but I spent time lookign this stuff up, not going ot waste it now. Excluding the British and American equipment they received during the war, and the German and Italian stuff after, they do have a few options. Navypedia has a rather comprehensive list of French boats under escorts and coastal forces. A couple highlights: CH5 submarine chasers, mostly completed in 1940, VTB23 MTBs completed in 1940 (which made their way into the Royal Navy, as MGB-61 is one of these. The VTBs would ideally have their French armament), P9785 motor launches completed in 1954 with 4x2 .50 cals, VC1 motor launches, completed between 1956-59, armed with 2x Oerliikons. The top boats could be the Trident-class, though I don't know how much the SS.12 would mess with naval gameplay.

 

For Frigates They could get the Le Corse and Le Normand-class (both very similar to each other), followed by the Commandant Riviére-class (which looks like it's rather similar to the F220 Köln). There's a few other corvettes and sub chasers that can make up these tiers as well.

The SS.12 is similar in guidance to the Italian ASM that’s in game currently.

[WinterHt 82]

I am very, very strongly against adding more missiles to naval mode. However, SS12 is a pretty bad missile with a really slow speed and short range, as well as a much smaller warhead than the Sea Killer on the Saetta. Also it doesn't have a proximity fuse to use against aircraft unlike the Italian missile.

[Arghail 1,220]

On 03/09/2020 at 07:11, Ruthless95 said:

I can not find any french tier 1 and 2 worthy boats that isn't from ww1.

That could explain the reason why this section has been empty for the longest time.

has anybody have any idea what is going to occupy the french navy's tier 1 and 2 in game?

 I have worked on that, here are my picks for the French early tier :

Starting MTBs :
 

 

Prototypes :
 

Indochina Gunboats :
 

Submarine chasers :
 

 

Cold war patrol boats :
 

 

On 03/09/2020 at 08:20, MILESPARVUS said:

Bah, forum logged me out while I was writing up this post. The list above pretty good, but I spent time lookign this stuff up, not going ot waste it now. Excluding the British and American equipment they received during the war, and the German and Italian stuff after, they do have a few options. Navypedia has a rather comprehensive list of French boats under escorts and coastal forces. A couple highlights: CH5 submarine chasers, mostly completed in 1940, VTB23 MTBs completed in 1940 (which made their way into the Royal Navy, as MGB-61 is one of these. The VTBs would ideally have their French armament), P9785 motor launches completed in 1954 with 4x2 .50 cals, VC1 motor launches, completed between 1956-59, armed with 2x Oerliikons. The top boats could be the Trident-class, though I don't know how much the SS.12 would mess with naval gameplay.

 

For Frigates They could get the Le Corse and Le Normand-class (both very similar to each other), followed by the Commandant Riviére-class (which looks like it's rather similar to the F220 Köln). There's a few other corvettes and sub chasers that can make up these tiers as well.

If you have more info than the navypedia stuff about those 1950's P9785 and VC1 motor launch, i would be interested.

[MILESPARVUS 1,100]

2 hours ago, Arghail said:

If you have more info than the navypedia stuff about those 1950's P9785 and VC1 motor launch, i would be interested.

 

Unfortunately not. I found them through Navypedia, and every time I've tried to do a search for them I get a whole lot of irrelevent hits. Sorry.

[Arghail 1,220]

10 hours ago, MILESPARVUS said:

 

Unfortunately not. I found them through Navypedia, and every time I've tried to do a search for them I get a whole lot of irrelevent hits. Sorry.

 

No problem. It's ultimately a common problem within the internet, the lack of sources.

[nxdefiant001 1,397]

if anyone can identify the boat page 138

https://fr.scribd.com/doc/225358343/38606186-COMHART-T10-Armements-Antichars-Missiles-Guides-Et-Non-Guides-France-2008

 

it's quite small might fit somewhere 

[Cedjoe 5,482]

10 hours ago, nxdefiant001 said:

if anyone can identify the boat page 138

https://fr.scribd.com/doc/225358343/38606186-COMHART-T10-Armements-Antichars-Missiles-Guides-Et-Non-Guides-France-2008

 

it's quite small might fit somewhere 

It looks like a Vosper patrol boat

Exported to Lybia with SS.12 mounts, but no french service AFAIK.

 

 

Here's another ship that could mount SS.12s :

La Combattante (P730)

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Not sure if there are others in french service though.

[Arghail 1,220]

3 hours ago, Cedjoe said:

It looks like a Vosper patrol boat

Exported to Lybia with SS.12 mounts, but no french service AFAIK.

 

 

Here's another ship that could mount SS.12s :

La Combattante (P730)

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Not sure if there are others in french service though.

 

There are. The PATRA Patrol boats (Trident class) as well had fixed mounts able to fire SS-12 missiles.
 

 

Edited December 22, 2020 by Arghail

[Cedjoe 5,482]

17 minutes ago, Arghail said:

 

There are. The PATRA Patrol boats (Trident class) as well had fixed mounts able to fire SS-12 missiles.
 

 

Ah yes forgot about that one thanks

[Cedjoe 5,482]

Here are pics of an SS.11 mount on a Swedish boat :

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[Rocco_Vargas 110]

French light craft? Just skimming my copy o Conways, I see VTB torpedo boats ( built by AC de la Loire in 1935) VTB11 torpedo boats (1939-41) British fairmile boats, US SC type sub chasers, CH1 type sub chasers, River guboats, armed merchant cruisers (like the British ones in the game already)

 

The VTB boats were equivalent to reserve level boats. So it's all there. I'm sure the Gaijin guys snagged a copy of Conways by now.

 

Everyone here is so obsessed with cold war guided misslile stuff, it's as though anything before the Korean War is lost to the mists of time.

Edited October 1, 2021 by Rocco_Vargas