Hungarian Tank Tree - Updated

[DestroyerTomCZ 88]

If Hungary or Romania will have its own tree, what about Italy? Do you like what condition it is in?

[Nicholas_Concu 2,634]

9 minutes ago, DestroyerTomCZ said:

If Hungary or Romania will have its own tree, what about Italy? Do you like what condition it is in?

Italy has enough vehicles that are unique that can be added, it does NOT need Romanian or Hungarian vehicles.
Other than that +1 because i dont want anything Hungarian in our tree getting added, id much rather them get their own tree.

[WentTo_Bruv 14]

I would be up for this, but maybe adding another country to the Hungarian tech tree, say Polish (Low Tier, like the 7TP, 10TP, or maybe even the TKS) or Romania (For top tier, MLI-84M, TR-85, and the Prototype Obuzierul autopropulsat românesc, Model 1989) would probably lessen the amount of copy paste from other nations (Specifically USSR and Germany, because from what I looked on Tank Encyclopedia, Germany supplies both Romania, Hungary, and Poland with Leopards. And the USSR supplied multiple tanks to the Eastern Bloc/Warsaw Pact.)

[eleks12 1,079]

I really hope we one day are going to see a Tech Tree lineup of Hungarian Tanks. Though i would personally prefer the Tree being represented in some sort of Eastern European Tech Tree line.

Because i am a believer in that a Tech Tree's should have all branches represented (Naval, Planes, Helicopters and Tanks). Though i do think the Austro-Hungarian Navy should be included with the Hungarians. Since i guess Austria is allready in a way represented in the German Tree.

But I hope the WT community could be interrested looking into what kind of vessels Austria-Hungary used so we maybe can suggest a tech tree for those vessels. If it can get enough support. 

 

K.u.K Kriegsmarine - The Austro-Hungarian Navy in WW1 (naval-encyclopedia.com)

 

 

Eastern European International Tech Tree suggestions where Hungary is represented

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Edited January 17, 2021 by eleks12

[Ruthless95 1,177]

what's that 40mm L3/35? any pictures?

what if i tell you it smells like gaijin is shoving the hungarians into italian tree?

1 line consisting of toldis, turans and tas leading to tigers and panthers to that 251 gvod thing and leo 2s.

the rest is devided into italian lines, nimrod into aa line, zerinyis into spg line.

Edited May 28, 2021 by Ruthless95

[PacketlossRedux 595]

23 hours ago, Ruthless95 said:

what's that 40mm L3/35? any pictures?

my guess is that its the L3/35 tankette with a 40mm gun? gotta be Italian stuff cause Hungary never married these two things together.

 

Not too hyped about it because the Toldi is riddled with false stats and the gun name found in the recent data mine is too incorrect..which is hillarious cause it is the gun of the Nimrod which is the license produced swedish bofors...hard to fug up... So iam seeing a pattern here of Gaijin stooping bellow google search accuracy standards.

 

And in my opinion its(subtree) literarly the worst way of implementation Gaijin could do, both in the monitary aspect and in providing content. When they could do a new standalone tree consisting of multiple nations that have been allies on and off for hundreds of years with military industries that are way more intertvined than Italy-Hungary.

But as always Gaijin likes to do illogical things...a subtree will give them less premiums to sell, no packs to sell, less grind and a non Italian, Italy tree.

Edited May 29, 2021 by PacketlossRedux

[Noveos_Republic 503]

In light of recent news, this would probably be better as a subtree

[Billygoatunicorn 178]

39 minutes ago, Noveos_Republic said:

In light of recent news, this would probably be better as a subtree

It's such a shame too, because Hungary is one of last remaining tech trees remaining with a significant amount of indigenously designed and built tanks during WW2. And also, I personally sort of disagree with subtree, and I think it should be its own short tree. Going up to rank 4 and stopping. With perhaps no/few air vehicles added. Like the reverse of Italy at first. 

[Noveos_Republic 503]

30 minutes ago, Billygoatunicorn said:

It's such a shame too, because Hungary is one of last remaining tech trees remaining with a significant amount of indigenously designed and built tanks during WW2. And also, I personally sort of disagree with subtree, and I think it should be its own short tree. Going up to rank 4 and stopping. With perhaps no/few air vehicles added. Like the reverse of Italy at first. 

Well, no. What's the point of adding a nation if it has no unique air vehicles to be added? Just make it part of Italy or a Central European Tree

[Billygoatunicorn 178]

20 hours ago, Noveos_Republic said:

Well, no. What's the point of adding a nation if it has no unique air vehicles to be added? Just make it part of Italy or a Central European Tree

I mean, there's a point because just look at china. The only truly indigenous design they have is the Q-5.

[Ruthless95 1,177]

rip this whole thing....................zzz

[PacketlossRedux 595]

3 hours ago, EdiotPastaboo95 said:

rip this whole thing....................zzz

yep...i cannot wait xxxx 5+ years to be able to buy all the Hungarian tanks and aircraft one by one to be able to make HU lineups. Feels great to pay to play my own nation that played a considerable role in ww2.

[Solarmod 1,204]

It is absolutely depressing that we do not get a tree of another Axis Nation. Hungary, Romania, (czech)slovakia, all fascinating stories with unique aircraft to offer, but no. Israel and battlepass for mass-produced vehicles. I am unhappy with this.

[Cpt_Jack_Irons 464]

31 minutes ago, Solarmod said:

It is absolutely depressing that we do not get a tree of another Axis Nation. Hungary, Romania, (czech)slovakia, all fascinating stories with unique aircraft to offer, but no. Israel and battlepass for mass-produced vehicles. I am unhappy with this.

And Ofc Israel is the Nation who gets its own Seperate Tech Tree (No Nation Bias Here)

[Epsilon160 270]

What the game needs is better sub-tree implementation instead of just adding them as small lines within larger nations, I remember seeing a suggestion where nations that couldn't fill full trees with domestic equipment would have smaller trees like the helicopter tree, with the option of using them in the lineups of the major nation that historically had the most affiliation with them; that way they could more easily implement nations that didn't make equipment during a certain timeframe or didn't make a specific type of equipment.

 

On Israel being the newest nation instead of something like Visegrad, the game is becoming more focused towards top tier; more and more vehicles getting added in each update are from the modern period rather than WW2 or early Cold War, and Israel is one of the few unimplemented producers of fully domestic MBTs in the modern day.

[Rockybrown 61]

Yugoslavia is being considered because of the massive support it got from the community. Nothing will stop Hungary from being it's own tree if we keep upvoting this tree. With the whole text that explains why Hungary is a good candidate for a new nation. The 125-200 upvotes this thread got before merging with other info, this tree is one of the most supported nations, making Hungary a pay-to-play is heresy.

Italy was a sort of sub-tree in Germany for many years until the support for a own tree toppled over and won the decision to make it independent.

 

I will continue supporting a Hungarian tree no matter what people whine about. This tree beats the Israel and Chinese tree.

[Cpt_Jack_Irons 464]

7 minutes ago, Rockybrown said:

Yugoslavia is being considered because of the massive support it got from the community. Nothing will stop Hungary from being it's own tree if we keep upvoting this tree. With the whole text that explains why Hungary is a good candidate for a new nation. The 125-200 upvotes this thread got before merging with other info, this tree is one of the most supported nations, making Hungary a pay-to-play is heresy.

Italy was a sort of sub-tree in Germany for many years until the support for a own tree toppled over and won the decision to make it independent.

 

I will continue supporting a Hungarian tree no matter what people whine about. This tree beats the Israel and Chinese tree.

Tbh i want the Hungarian Tech Tree ingame, the lower tier being fully unique is great also

Majority USSR Copy-Paste is much more welcome in my book than more American/UN Copy-Paste

Edited January 24, 2022 by Cpt_Jack_Irons

[Rockybrown 61]

8 minutes ago, Cpt_Jack_Irons said:

Tbh i want the Hungarian Tech Tree ingame, the lower tier being fully unique is great also

Majority USSR Copy-Paste is much more welcome in my book than more American/UN Copy-Paste

They are not only copy paste either, the Hungarians made their own modifications which made their tanks a little different than the other Soviet countries.

[Solarmod 1,204]

Independent trees I want (in an order of sorts):

 

Yugoslav/Polish tree is most likely for next

 

Czech/Hungarian/Romanian tree after in some order (I hope)

 

Swiss-Austrian tree mayhaps 2030 :))))))))

[RussianPuts 0]

I would like this, I just hope that half the tech tree doesn't become a copypaste.

[Alpha84 62]

Meanwhile, the probability of Hungary appearing as a subtree for Italy is getting higher...

[Rockybrown 61]

12 hours ago, Alpha84 said:

Meanwhile, the probability of Hungary appearing as a subtree for Italy is getting higher...

Germany had Italian vehicles for many many years, after considerable time, Gaijin was pushed by the community to add them for themselves. Now the Italians have Hungarian vehicles, around the same amount Germany had of Italian vehicles before they seperated. We should push Gaijin to atleast give us Hungary, Poland and Yugoslavia as they are one of the last nations with a great variety of new vehicles.

 

I have noticed that War Thunder TT's have become rather slim with new additions as China, Sweden and Israel. Sweden is just now being supported by Finland which is ok, the Finns probably wanted their own, but atleast they get something. I personally think that many nations can be on their own, judging by the fact that the eastern-european countries were all over the place from 30's until today, there could be a lot of problems smashing them together like the western nations like the BeNeLux tree. The west are more tolerable to merges than for example the east.

 

For those who still support Hungary as an own tree, keep supporting even more, most of the votes were removed after the merge, but that doesn't matter. I hope Gaijin know how much support was prior to merge, as well as not going full smooth-brain adding Hungary to Italy. Yugoslavia is a big addition, Poland is a rather large addition, Hungary is also rather large and Romania have a ok setup. I also support their addition on their own.

[Alpha84 62]

8 hours ago, Rockybrown said:

Germany had Italian vehicles for many many years, after considerable time, Gaijin was pushed by the community to add them for themselves. Now the Italians have Hungarian vehicles, around the same amount Germany had of Italian vehicles before they seperated. We should push Gaijin to atleast give us Hungary, Poland and Yugoslavia as they are one of the last nations with a great variety of new vehicles.

 

I have noticed that War Thunder TT's have become rather slim with new additions as China, Sweden and Israel. Sweden is just now being supported by Finland which is ok, the Finns probably wanted their own, but atleast they get something. I personally think that many nations can be on their own, judging by the fact that the eastern-european countries were all over the place from 30's until today, there could be a lot of problems smashing them together like the western nations like the BeNeLux tree. The west are more tolerable to merges than for example the east.

 

For those who still support Hungary as an own tree, keep supporting even more, most of the votes were removed after the merge, but that doesn't matter. I hope Gaijin know how much support was prior to merge, as well as not going full smooth-brain adding Hungary to Italy. Yugoslavia is a big addition, Poland is a rather large addition, Hungary is also rather large and Romania have a ok setup. I also support their addition on their own.

IMO the best what we can get is Visegrad ITT and Yugoslavian ITT supported by Romanian and Bulgarian subtrees.

Edited October 15, 2022 by Alpha84

[Rockybrown 61]

4 hours ago, Alpha84 said:

IMO the best what we can get is Visegrad ITT and Yugoslavian ITT supported by Romanian and Bulgarian subtrees.

Yet China was added? They barely even have their own stuff, let alone modifications. What the Chinese tree gave us was existing vehicles with new names, nothing at all. It's like Cola, but named Kola with a new color on the emblem, that's War Thunder's China for you. But what i see people whining about is the lack of full tech trees with all indeginous and 200+ vehicles, that won't happen anymore. All the nations that did that since ww1 until now are already included. The eastern european countires are some of the last countires where you can expect something new at all. Just take a look at Finland, count how many new and exiting vehicles that we never have seen there, i guess it took the developers months to figure those vehicles out.

[Milocat 4,857]

21 hours ago, Rockybrown said:

Yet China was added? They barely even have their own stuff, let alone modifications. What the Chinese tree gave us was existing vehicles with new names, nothing at all. It's like Cola, but named Kola with a new color on the emblem, that's War Thunder's China for you. But what i see people whining about is the lack of full tech trees with all indeginous and 200+ vehicles, that won't happen anymore. All the nations that did that since ww1 until now are already included. The eastern european countires are some of the last countires where you can expect something new at all. Just take a look at Finland, count how many new and exiting vehicles that we never have seen there, i guess it took the developers months to figure those vehicles out.

 

China has a lot of unique vehicles, they just don't really start showing up until you get to tier 5 and above.  

 

It's true that you have to muddle your way through a lot of copy-paste in the lower tiers to get to that point but it's disingenuous to stretch that fact into a claim that they have nothing of their own to add to the game.  That's flat wrong.