[Australia]CAC CA-27 Sabre Mk.30 'First Aussie Sabers'

[wilusXD 436]

 

CAC CA-27 Sabre Mk.30

 

Introduction:

CAC CA-27 Saber is the first Australian version of the North American F-86F Saber. This aircraft would be Rank5/6 jet fighter. The prototype of this aircraft is called the "CA-26". CA-27 Mk.30 Sabre haver advantages of F-86F-2(Firepower) and F-86F-40(Turn time). They can carry Firestreak AAM so, they need to be placed on 9.3 or 9.7. If the snails add them, they will be good aircraft in subsonic battles like CL-13A Mk.5 and Shenyang F-5.

 

 

Background:

CAC CA-27 Saber is Australian version of the North American F-86F Saber. CAC(Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation) signed a contract with North American in February 1951 to produce a prototype and 70 production aircrafts. The RAAF(Royal Australian Air Force) asked the CAC to perform differently than the F-86F. They wanted changes such as better engine power and better firepower. CAC adopted the Rolls-Royce Avon as new engine and changed the gun from M3 50cals to ADEN.Because of these changes, the fuselage of the Avon Sabre was fatter than the F-86. The prototype was called the "CA-26 Sabre Mk.30" and it was maiden flight on August 3, 1953. The product version was called the CA-27 and they were first operated by the RAAF since July 1954.  Sabre Mk.30 was eventually produced for 23 aircraft (A94-901~A94-923) They were later equipped with 6-3 wings, to solve a problem of slats, and they were renamed Sabre Mk.31 after modifications in 1957-1958. A94-922 and A94-915 has history of carrying Firestreak as a test.  

 

Specifications(CA-26/CA-27 Mk.30):

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Manufacturer:Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation (CAC)
Role:Fighter/Bomber
Crew:1
Engine:1 Rolls Royce RA.7 Avon turbojet 7,350 lbf

Empty weight: 5,445 kg
Maximum takeoff weight: 7,850 kg

Maximum speed(Sea level): 1,127km/h
Length:11.43m
Wing span:11.30 m
Height:4.34 m

Wing area:26.75 m^2
Maximum climb speed:3655m/min 
Ceiling:55,000 ft
Ferry Range:2,400 km

 

Source: https://www.airforce.gov.au/about-us/history/ca-27-sabre  (RAAF official)
https://fsb.raafansw.org.au/docPDF/Flying_the_Sabre__1.pdf (RAAF Association)

CAC CA-27 Avon Sabre jet fighter RAAF HARS

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/ca27.html

 

Weapons:

 

Guns: 2× 30 mm ADEN cannons with 162 rounds per gun (total 324 rounds)

Rockets:  16× Hispano SURA R80 80mm rockets

Bomb: 2× 500 or 1,000lb bombs or eight practice bombs
Missiles: 2× de Havilland Firestreak

Source:Stewart Wilson's "Meteor, Sabre and Mirage in Australian Service" p.66,De Havilland Firestreak Guided Missile (1957)

 

Blueprints :

 

Cockpit:

 

Camouflage:

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Other documents:

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Source:Aircam Aviation Series #20: Canadair Sabre Mk.1-6, Commonwealth Sabre Mk.30-32. ADF Serials - CAC Sabre (adf-serials.com.au)

Edited January 6, 2022 by LAGSWITCH_EXE
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[leroyonly 4,311]

Open for discussion. 

[AspandaIV 376]

+1 for the British TT since Britain doesn't have a Sabre in their TT, Australia has very close ties with Britain due to Australia is a dominion commonwealth nation and lastly the CAC Sabers are the most unique Sabre variants due to different engines and armaments (we don't have any of the Hispano rockets ingame yet)

If you are wondering, yes Britain operated Sabres (mostly CL-13 Mk.4's)

[wilusXD 436]

33 minutes ago, leroyonly said:

Open for discussion. 

Thanks for helping!

[Sir Rebral Palsy 2,423]

+1

This would probably be one of if not the most unique Sabres in the game whilst having many differences to counteract others who complain about or are against copypaste vehicles.

 

 

[wilusXD 436]

Added cockpit photos and new polls. 11/28/2020

Edited November 28, 2020 by LAGSWITCH_EXE

[Milocat 4,857]

+1 for sure for the British tech tree, regular or premium.  This would be an amazing addition.

[kroese@psn 23]

+1 just because i like to collect.

[_Scooter98_ 189]

+1 CAC Sabers yes. And the 'theres too many Sabers in the game' excuse doesnt fly anymore with china. Either give us a Commonwealth/Australia tree or put these in the UK tree.

[Borotovas 4,500]

+1

[Grand_Moff_Tano 3,460]

+1, would be nice to see more Commonwealth vehicles in the British Tech Tree.

[spacesoldier117 876]

+1 Would be unique with the firestreak

[Soupa97 0]

+1 Aussie AUSSIE Aussie

[_TheCrimsonKing_ 504]

+1, more Sabres always good, and maybe the UK could get it! 

[wilusXD 436]

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=460742&isAv=N

 

I found out that NAA(National Archives of Australia) has documents on CA-26 and CA-27 Mk.30. I'll get their copies but, It may take some times. If I get permission from NAA, I’ll upload them to the WT Forum.

Edited May 14, 2021 by LAGSWITCH_EXE

[AVROVULCANXH558 349]

+1, Britain can do with some more Commonwealth vehicles to spice up the tree a bit more.

[wilusXD 436]

Added new choice on poll. 06/06/2021

[wilusXD 436]

By the way, It seems Sabre Mk.30 couldn't carry cannons when they carried Firestreak missiles so, this sabre will be pure gunfighter in game.

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

On 06/06/2021 at 08:09, LAGSWITCH_EXE said:

By the way, It seems Sabre Mk.30 couldn't carry cannons when they carried Firestreak missiles so, this sabre will be pure gunfighter in game.

 

Alternatively you could choose in the hangar if you want to take guns or missiles.

[Arcadia_Nyx 811]

+1
Probably an event vehicle or Battle Pass reward, but I'd like to fly him in-game since he's the most extreme gunfighter in Saber.

[wilusXD 436]

Added some photo but still not manuals  17/09/2021

Edited September 17, 2021 by LAGSWITCH_EXE

[_Scooter98_ 189]

 found this but yer, no manuals

[wilusXD 436]

42 minutes ago, _Scooter98_ said:

 found this but yer, no manuals

Thanks for post old topic.

However, It seems these link are already broken.

[Headnaught 504]

On 17/09/2021 at 07:09, LAGSWITCH_EXE said:

Added some photo but still not manuals  17/09/2021

I got a copy of the Mk. 31 and Mk. 32 CA-27 flight manual off of ebay. It's digital, on a CD, it will ship in a couple weeks or so, then I will be happy to share all the performance information I find. I want to see this plane in game as well, I appreciate the work everyone has put in so far

[wilusXD 436]

On 11/21/2021 at 8:32 AM, Headnaught said:

I got a copy of the Mk. 31 and Mk. 32 CA-27 flight manual off of ebay. It's digital, on a CD, it will ship in a couple weeks or so, then I will be happy to share all the performance information I find. I want to see this plane in game as well, I appreciate the work everyone has put in so far

Nice.

If you got flight manuals, Can you post their loadouts? I doubt they were carrying RP-3 rockets, not Hispano rockets.