GermanLMG 3,015 Report post Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) Since everything in this topic is only in French and I have nothing to do with French since the second grade (thank God) I thought I create a topic in English that the others also understand. In the topic should be posted only sources about possible French ships and their technical data. Small discussions are also ok. Edited March 7, 2021 by GermanLMG 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WilderHans 415 Report post Posted March 7, 2021 Since the Battleships we see currently in game are rather from the Dreadnought or WW1 era, the better suiting candidates for France would be something like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_battleship_Charlemagne and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courbet-class_battleship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvius 369 Report post Posted March 9, 2021 Charlemagne class seems to be too old but Courbet and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretagne-class_battleship could be ok. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvius 369 Report post Posted April 9, 2021 You can find below a list of boats of the French Navy in 1940. http://www.netmarine.net/bat/listes/flot1940.htm FYI: Bâtiment de ligne: Battleship / battlecruiser Porte avions: aircraft carrier Croiseur 1ere/2eme classe: heavy/light cruiser Contre torpilleur: Destroyer Torpilleur / aviso: different types of frigates (heavy/light) Canonnière fluviale: coastal gun boat Not in this list: Vedettes lance torpilles: torpedo boat A lot are already suggested 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanLMG 3,015 Report post Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Sylvius said: You can find below a list of boats of the French Navy in 1940. http://www.netmarine.net/bat/listes/flot1940.htm FYI: Bâtiment de ligne: Battleship / battlecruiser Porte avions: aircraft carrier Croiseur 1ere/2eme classe: heavy/light cruiser Contre torpilleur: Destroyer Torpilleur / aviso: different types of frigates (heavy/light) Canonnière fluviale: coastal gun boat Not in this list: Vedettes lance torpilles: torpedo boat A lot are already suggested nice!!! Edited April 9, 2021 by GermanLMG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturmWerwolf 793 Report post Posted June 7, 2021 Yeah, I'd love to see French naval. Although the history and details of their ships are kinda confusing compared to the other nations. You had the whole Vichy France vs. Free France split. A good portion were lost early on. The British sunk some of them in port, then a bunch more were scuttled. Some of the more famous ones Richelieu and Le Triomphant broke out and made it to US ports. If I remember correctly some even joined in the war in the pacific, post repair and refit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaireauBlinde 523 Report post Posted June 13, 2021 The Bretangne class would also be a possibility for in game, although I would have it in "as refitted" so it has at least some chance of survival. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanLMG 3,015 Report post Posted August 10, 2021 @Abaddon75 sent me a link which would significantly increase the selection of the coastal fleet. Unfortunately there is nothing new regarding battleships but it was clear that France will have problems in this area and will not be competitive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arghail 1,220 Report post Posted August 13, 2021 On 10/08/2021 at 17:56, GermanLMG said: @Abaddon75 sent me a link which would significantly increase the selection of the coastal fleet. Unfortunately there is nothing new regarding battleships but it was clear that France will have problems in this area and will not be competitive. I mean, competitively speaking, France has access to at least 5 different class of battleships : Danton, Courbet, Bretagne, Normandie (unfinished), Dunkerque and Richelieu. You could even throw in the Post-war Jean Bart and its numerous enhancements. It's more than enough to make a great line of capital warships IMO. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon75 460 Report post Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) On 13/08/2021 at 10:38, Arghail said: I mean, competitively speaking, France has access to at least 5 different class of battleships : Danton, Courbet, Bretagne, Normandie (unfinished), Dunkerque and Richelieu. You could even throw in the Post-war Jean Bart and its numerous enhancements. It's more than enough to make a great line of capital warships IMO. What he was searching for in fact, was an equivalent to project like H39, HMS Lion, Sovetsky Soyuz, who all got similar armement/protection as the USS Iowa, seen as the only BB being able to fight against the the Yamato. France got such project, the Alsace Classe, but saddly nothing was ready to start construction when the armistice stopped everything. So as I told him, except if Gaijin change their rule and accept blueprint ships, France will only have 5 modern BBs (counting the third ship from Richelieu class) with weaker armement and protection than Germany, USA, UK, USSR, and Japan. Italy have made a lot more ships comparable to french ones. An of course Sweden and China won't have chance to reach those. Edited September 1, 2021 by Abaddon75 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arghail 1,220 Report post Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Abaddon75 said: What he was searching for in fact, was an equivalent to project like H39, HMS Lion, Sovetsky Soyuz, who all got similar armement/protection as the USS Iowa, seen as the only BB being able to fight against the the Yamato. France got such project, the Alsace Classe, but saddly nothing was ready to start construction when the armistice stopped everything. So as I told him, except if Gaijin change their rule and accept blueprint ships, France will only have 5 modern BBs (counting the third ship from Richelieu class) with weaker armement and protection than Germany, USA, UK, USSR, and Japan. Italy have made a lot more ships comparable to french ones. An of course Sweden and China won't have chance to reach those. Ah yes, well. We'll see if and when those famous "not very far from paper given how early they were in their construction" projects actually make it to the game. As far as I know, the USS Iowa and the Yamato are in a league beyond what can be found but it's not like we're even close to that level of technology as of now. Not to mention, if they ever add those ships, It's very possible they'll pursue the evolution of naval gameplay the same way they did with Ground forces, that is by reaching at the same time the modern missile warships era and giving those super battleships a place between modern anti-ship warfare and good ol' battleship battles. As far as France is concerned, as I said, the Jean Bart could have a couple aces up its sleeves thanks to modern advanced firing control for its turret giving it (perhaps) an advantage over these paper projects. It will depends how Gaijin handles this delicate balancing issue (not as they usually do, I hope.) Not that it matters in the end, because if naval gameplay doesn't evolve and still focuses on powercreep, nobody will bother playing this game mode aside from the players who'll have paid to instantly get the battleships stomping the competition. And we'll have 20 Yamato and Iowa vs 20 Yamato and Iowa battles. Edited September 1, 2021 by Arghail 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valcour 1,141 Report post Posted September 1, 2021 French predreadnought's are rather like their 1930's tanks. Odd, not the most effective, but charming in their own special way. I would love to see Waldeck-Rousseau or the Danton's though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon75 460 Report post Posted September 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Valcour said: French predreadnought's are rather like their 1930's tanks. Odd, not the most effective, but charming in their own special way. I would love to see Waldeck-Rousseau or the Danton's though. Well I'm not againt Danton, because this class is part of the rare ships with a more conventionnal look instead of Jules Verne fantasy ones :), also I fear that the Edgar Quinet and Waldeck-Rousseau ships will lack of punch in comparison to IJN Ikoma to justify their addition. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valcour 1,141 Report post Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Abaddon75 said: Well I'm not againt Danton, because this class is part of the rare ships with a more conventionnal look instead of Jules Verne fantasy ones :), also I fear that the Edgar Quinet and Waldeck-Rousseau ships will lack of punch in comparison to IJN Ikoma to justify their addition. They have six!!!!! funnels and a deck load of turrets...what's not to love? (Edgar Quinet et al.) The Danton's would be great additions to a future MN tech tree though. Even if they only have five funnels. They still have the turret farm. Edited September 1, 2021 by Valcour 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valcour 1,141 Report post Posted September 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Abaddon75 said: I fear that the Edgar Quinet and Waldeck-Rousseau ships will lack of punch in comparison to IJN Ikoma to justify their addition. They are in that weird position between proper battlecruisers and armored cruisers. Much like the Minotaurs or SMS Blucher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
