Breda Ba.88M

[Iskads 104]

General info

With the Italian Royal Air Forces (Regia Aeronautica) realization that the Breda Ba.88 is a failure, they were soon found on various Italian training grounds and even with reduction in production there was still a surplus of them available. To make these aircraft useful, the air staff decided to refit them into dive bombers. The Ba.88s would be fitted with a less powerful, though more reliable and lighter engines, Fiat A.74 RC.38s, replacing the Piaggio P.XI RC.40 Stella engines. Initial tests on the Ba.88 with Fiat A.74 RC.38 engines proved it to be lighter and more aerodynamic thus, quicker even if they were less powerful. The Ba.88M was also fitted with a bigger bomb load (the semi-recessed bomb was replaced by external mounting point on the belly of the plane so as it would be able to carry bigger bombs) and dive breaks (2 different kinds of under-wing dive breaks were tested on the Ba.88M, the selected type to be installed was the Junkers Shutter model) to satisfy the need for a dive bomber, later versions would have a lengthened fuselage by 80 cm (31,5") and a bigger wing span increased by 2,3 m (7,55') to reduce wing loading and get a better balance, the end of the wings would also be flat instead of being rounded. By June 1943 Ba.88Ms were solely used for training and had the previously mentioned upgrades as well as 2 x 12,7 mm in the roots of the wings and 2 x 12,7 mm machine guns in the nose, extra armour, an armoured windshield and got rid of the rear gunner/copilot completely, the rear turret was also dismounted. All of these upgrades together would make the aircraft heavier by 203 kg (without bombs) when compared to the Ba.88 and slower by more than 100 km/h. The Ba.88M was also in use by the Luftwaffe after the armistice in 1943.

 

Specifications

• Crew: 1
• Length: 11,55 m (37' 10,7")
• Wingspan: 17,7 m (58' 0,8")
• Height: 3 m (9' 10.1")
• Wing area: /
• Empty weight: 5203 kg (11 470.6 lbs)
• Gross weight: /
• Powerplant: 2 x Fiat A.74 RC.38 (850 hp)
• Propellers:  3-bladed variable-pitch propellers

Performance

• Maximum speed: 387,6 km/h at 4,2 km (240,8 mph at 13779')
• Service ceiling: 6,65 km (21 817')
• Time to altitude: 3 km - 11 min, 6 km - 24 min 41 sec

Armament

• Guns: 4 x 12,7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun

 

Suspended Armament

3 x 100 kg G.P 100 bomb

2 x 250 kg G.P 250 bomb

1 x 500 kg G.P 500 bomb

 

Why it should be in the game

I believe this plane should be in the game because Italy, just like in real life, needs more CAS that are Italian and not lend lease and have proper suspended armaments. Since we already have the Breda Ba.88 it would easy to add and model.

 

Sources

Ali d'Italia 019 - Breda Ba.88 Italian-English

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breda_Ba.88_Lince

https://www.colettiscombataircraft.com/prodotto/breda-ba-88-lynx/

http://www.aviastar.org/air/italy/breda-88.php

 

Pictures

[Miki_Hoshii 2,449]

Open for discussion.

[Artyom_Ascaron 48]

+1 The Breda 88 is a magnificent aircraft despite is problems after it's "militaryzation" and the ba88m would be so fun to play, I personally love low tier aircrafts and Italy has so much to offer there.

[Nicholas_Concu 2,636]

+1 absolutely yes. 

Congrats on your first suggestion. 

[ConroeDoctrine 133]

This could be an easy to model vehicle that would reinforce the currently rather lacking strike aircraft/dive bombers line of the Italian TT. Gib gib gib +1 

[EvenManatee887@live 129]

+1 from me, happy to see all the info I managed to find was enough for a suggestion, hopefully this gets passed soon!

[Conte_Baracca 4,547]

Yeah it's slow but with a bomber spawn as a Dive Bomber it would be a solid aircraft.  I love the Lynce and this would be a great addition.  

 

 

@IskadsWelcome to the Suggestion Club!!!  It's addictive. 

Edited March 27, 2021 by Conte_Baracca

[Iskads 104]

3 hours ago, Conte_Baracca said:

@IskadsWelcome to the Suggestion Club!!!  It's addictive. 

YAY! thank you

3 hours ago, EvenManatee887@live said:

+1 from me, happy to see all the info I managed to find was enough for a suggestion, hopefully this gets passed soon!

Indeed, you were a great help!

[John4Plays 70]

This aircraft is a +1 from me!

We need more Italian stuff and the Breda 88 is one of my favourite italian planes in the game.

[Yee_Dino_Meme 47]

i love low tier. and i love the Ba88. I would gladly play this thing !

[Milocat 4,857]

+1 for sure, I would really love to give this a try.

[ironcell26 252]

+1, a nice cas option for low tier

[Solarmod 1,204]

+1, love low tier italian attackers.

[El_Mentulis 90]

A definitive +1, I really enjoy playing the Ba.88, and a new one with what seems like different upsides and downsides is really nice

 

[jd_hog77 332]

+1 We need more ground pounders 

[crady1232 7]

Pog plane

[OLtzSDaniel 1]

+1 plox Gaijin needs to add more Tech Trees for Minor Nations

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

As bad as the real plane was, the Ba.88 has a chance to shine in War Thunder and genuinely isn't half bad at low tiers.  I'd gladly fly another variant of it.

[SturmWerwolf 793]

+1 For this. 

[LeABH 45]

+1 would be a cool plane to add to the italian tech tree

[TerraStalker 158]

+1 I like B.88 so another one would be cool!

[Охраняет-Камни 6,650]

+1 would be nice to have M in a folder with original 88)

[TerraStalker 158]

On 12/01/2022 at 03:37, _Condottiero_ said:

+1 would be nice to have M in a folder with original 88)

Or it can replace some junker so there would be less copy-paste

[ItalianAce02 40]

+1

[halflings1335@live 46]

+1 for more low tier planes