swedish fighters Saab JAS 39 Gripen A, C & E

[CaID 8,996]

 

i would like to suggest, what would certainly be the best of the Swedish plane that could ever hope to be added. the Saab JAS 39 Gripen

 

 

The Saab JAS 37 Gripen is as for now, the most advanced Swedish plane in service and offered in market. it was built to replace the Saab 35 and Saab 37 who was once two plane in service simultamously in Sweden, but also to export with a moderate sucess.

 

the Gripen is a excellent plane, capable to do any kind of mission. a real competitor to any modern military jet on the market. it is capable to match the Eurofighter Typhon, Dassault Rafale, Chengdu J-10 and any other plane who do not have stealth capacity.

the development of this plane started in the late 70 with the Swedish government issue the need to replace the aging Drakken and Viggen. the plane need to have the best quality of both. capable to take off from small air-strip and compatible with the BAS 90 system (a defensive tactic using many small airfield) and have longer range. there was many plane considered but the choice fall on building a new plane on their own. the development started in 1979 and was the first Swedish plane classified with the prefix JAS (J for fighter, A for attacker, S for reccon). been a multi-role fighter, the plane could fill more than one role in the same mission without needing to have any modification. the Gripen was born from a partnership between many important Swedish vehicles industry. the main been Saab-Scania, but also Volvo FLygmotor, LM Ericsson, Svenska Radioaktiedbolaget and Forsvarets Fabriksverk. the design was a lightweight, single engine, Delta wing with cannard configuration plane. the design got approved 1982 and founding for 5 prototype and 30 production plane was allowed. the Gripen was then a actual plane.

initially using a modified Viggen as testbed for the avionic and control. the Gripen didn't fly before 1988 but the first prototype shown to be unstable and crashed in 1989. the cause was identified as pilot-induced oscillation and the need to improve the plane was required before going into production. as the Grippen have a Negative-stability, the control of the plane is rather dificult without proper software or very skilled pilot. but new problem, new brick in the face of the gripen, a second plane crashed in the middle of an air-show where the prototype was displayed. this time it was rather a human mistake. by 1994, 5 prototype and 2 pre-production plane was completed and in 1995, Saab had built a agreement with BAE to export the plane (BAE was to help exporting, adapting and manufacturing the gripen around the world) this was the first stage of the success of the export.

the Gripen went into service with Sweden in 1996 and is currently still in service in various variants. it is also exported to many country and also proposing to export to many new customer which could easily double the number of plane built. Sweden possess about half of the Gripen ever built

 

Armament

Spoiler

 

Between the variants of the Gripen the armament can change significantly in the load. but the single-seat Gripen always have a 27mm Mausser BK-27 placed on the belly a bit at the left side. the maximal load capacity is always of 5300 kg, but the range can change from a model to the other. the suspended armament can include all sort of weapons; missiles of all sort, bomb, rocket or different avionic device. this allow the Gripen to have enough flexibilty to be used in any role.

 

since the weaponry is so different from a model to another, i will rather go more in details in the Variants section

 

Performence

Spoiler

 

having a rather weak engine for a plane of his class, the gripen do not need more. the plane is a lightweight and the negative stability give it incredibly good maneuverability. capable to to reach mach 2, it can also reach a ceilling of 15,000 m. the plane is a ideal dog fighter and can effectively dodge missiles. on the downside, the plane only have a single engine of 80 kN which is mostly limiting the armament capacity.

 

Protection

Spoiler

 

the Gripen is still a modern plane without any physical armor. but the plane have actively jam hostile radar; a missile approach warning system passively detects and tracks incoming missiles. in case of treat, the pilote can release a few defensive flare or use the good mobility to dodge the missiles.

 

 

Variants

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JAS 39A

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Initial production plane in service since 1996. it have 8 hardpoint and can only carry Swedish standard armament.

• Missiles:
  • 6 × IRIS-T (Rb.98) or AIM-9 Sidewinder (Rb.74)
  • 4 × MBDA Meteor (Rb.101), AIM-120 AMRAAM (Rb.99)
  • 2 × KEPD.350
  • 2 × RBS-15F anti-ship missile
• Bombs:
  • 4 × GBU-12 Paveway II laser-guided bomb
  • 8 × Mark 82 bombs
  • 16 × GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb

 

 

JAS 39C

Spoiler

Nato-compatible variant capable to carry Nato armament and refuel in the air. it have 8 hardpoint. this version was introduced in 2002

• Missiles:
  • 6 × IRIS-T (Rb.98) or AIM-9 Sidewinder (Rb.74) or A-Darter
  • 4 × MBDA Meteor (Rb.101), AIM-120 AMRAAM (Rb.99) or MBDA MICA
  • 4 × AGM-65 Maverick
  • 2 × KEPD.350
  • 2 × RBS-15F anti-ship missile
• Bombs:
  • 4 × GBU-12 Paveway II laser-guided bomb
  • 8 × Mark 82 bombs
  • 16 × GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb
• Other:
  • 1 × ALQ-TLS electronic countermeasures (ECM) pod
  • 1 × Digital Joint Reconnaissance Pod

 

JAS 39E

Spoiler

 

Improved version with more powerful F414G engine, Raven ES-05 AESA radar, increased fuel capacity and payload, two additional hardpoints, and other improvements. this version is ordered since 2007 but is still in preproduction stage.

 

General characteristics

• Crew: 1
• Length: 15.2 m (49 ft 10 in)

• Wingspan: 8.6 m (28 ft 3 in)
• Height: 4.5 m (14 ft 9 in)
• Wing area: 30 m² (320 sq ft)
• Empty weight: 8,000 kg (17,637 lb)
• Max takeoff weight: 16,500 kg (36,376 lb)
• Fuel capacity: 3,400 kg (7,500 lb) (internal)
• Payload: 5,100 kg (11,200 lb)^{[ citation needed ]}
• Powerplant: 1 × General Electric RM16 (F414-GE-39E) afterburning turbofan engine, 61.83 ^[446]  kN (13,900 lbf) thrust dry, 98 kN (22,000 lbf) with afterburner

Performance

• Maximum speed: 2,460 km/h (1,530 mph, 1,330 kn) +
• Maximum speed: Mach 2
• Combat range: 1,500 km (930 mi, 810 nmi) +
• Ferry range: 4,000 km (2,500 mi, 2,200 nmi) +
• Service ceiling: 16,000 m (52,000 ft)
• g limits: +9 -3
• Wing loading: 283 kg/m² (58 lb/sq ft)
• Thrust/weight: 1.04
• Takeoff distance: 500 m (1,640 ft)
• Landing distance: 600 m (1,969 ft)

Armament

• Guns: 1 × 27 mm Mauser BK-27 revolver cannon with 120 rounds (single-seat models only)
• Hardpoints: 10 (three hardpoints under fuselage, two under each wing, one on each wing tip, and one dedicated for FLIR / LD / Recon pod) with a capacity of 5,300 kg (11,700 lb),with provisions to carry combinations of:
  • Missiles:
    • 9^{[ citation needed ]} × IRIS-T (Rb.98), AIM-9 Sidewinder (Rb.74) or A-Darter
    • 7 × MBDA Meteor (Rb.101)
    • 2 × KEPD.350
    • 6 × Rbs.15F anti-ship missile
  • Bombs:
    • 7 × GBU-12 Paveway II laser-guided bomb
    • 8 × Mark 82 bombs
    • 16 × GBU-39 SDB
    • 12 × Alternative small-diameter glide bomb
  • Other:
    • 1 × ALQ-TLS electronic countermeasures (ECM) pod
    • 1 × Digital Joint Reconnaissance Pod
    • 1 × Rafael Reccelite Reconnaissance Pod
    • 1 × Litening III Targeting pod

Avionics

• Selex ES-05 Raven AESA radar ^{[447] [448] [449]}
• Skyward-G IRST system ^{[450] [451] [452] [453]}
• Air-to-air and air-to-surface tactical data link system^{[ citation needed ]}
• Wide Area Display (WAD) (single screen display) ^[454]
• Targo helmet mounted display (HMD) ^[441]
• ANVIS advanced night vision system/head up display (HUD)

 

 

 

General characteristics

• Crew: 1
• Length: 14.1 m (46 ft 3 in) 

• Wingspan: 8.4 m (27 ft 7 in)
• Height: 4.5 m (14 ft 9 in)
• Wing area: 30 m² (320 sq ft)
• Empty weight: 6,800 kg (14,991 lb)
• Max takeoff weight: 14,000 kg (30,865 lb)
• Fuel capacity: 3,000 L (790 US gal) (internal); 3,500 L (920 US gal) (external) ^{[440] [123]}
• Payload: 5,300 kg (11,700 lb) ^{[440] [123]}
• Powerplant: 1 × Volvo RM12 afterburning turbofan engine, 54 kN (12,000 lbf) thrust dry, 80.5 kN (18,100 lbf) with afterburner

Performance

• Maximum speed: 2,460 km/h (1,530 mph, 1,330 kn) +
• Maximum speed: Mach 2
• Combat range: 800 km (500 mi, 430 nmi)
• Ferry range: 3,200 km (2,000 mi, 1,700 nmi)
• Service ceiling: 15,240 m (50,000 ft)
• g limits: +9 −3
• Wing loading: 283 kg/m² (58 lb/sq ft)
• Thrust/weight: 0.97
• Takeoff distance: 400 m (1,312 ft) ^{[440] [123]}
• Landing distance: 500 m (1,640 ft) ^{[440] [123]}

Armament

• Guns: 1 × 27 mm Mauser BK-27 revolver cannon with 120 rounds (single-seat models only)
• see "variants" for suspended armament

Avionics

• Radar: PS-05/A Pulse-Doppler
• Cobra helmet mounted display (HMD)

 

Source

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen

https://www.saab.com/products/gripen-e-series  (builder website)

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39081/swedens-bigger-badder-gripen-fighter-packs-a-lot-of-punch-in-an-incredibly-efficient-package

https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/gripen-e-multirole-fighter-aircraft/

https://nationalinterest.org/tag/saab-jas-39ef-gripen-ng

 

other comparable plane who can match the Gripen (for each nation ingame and only included the multi-role one)

Spoiler

USA

F-16A

F/A-18a

 

F-14 A,B,C

 

Germany

Eurofighter Typhon (yet to be suggested)

Panavia Tornado (yet to be suggested)

 

Russia

Mig-29S

Mig-31B

Mig-35 (yet to be suggested)

 

UK

Eurofighter Typhon (1) (2)

Panavia Tornado

 

 

Japan

F2A

 

Italy

Eurofighter Typhon (Yet to be suggested)

Panavia Tornado (yet to be suggested)

 

France

Mirage 2000 C & D

Mirage 4000

Rafale B, C & M

 

China

J-10 A , B & C

F-CK-1A

 

Sweden

JAS 39 Gripen A,C & E

 

Edited June 14, 2021 by CaID

[ItssLuBu 1,803]

Approved and open for discussion. 

[Milocat 4,857]

+1, we're going full modern for ground forces so we should do the same for aircraft.

[oom1992 649]

+1, There is a possibility that Gripen A add in late rank 7. Part of Gripen C & E add in new rank 8 in the future

[CaID 8,996]

1 hour ago, oom1992 said:

+1, There is a possibility that Gripen A add in late rank 7. Part of Gripen C & E add in new rank 8 in the future

nut sure about it. a new rank 8 would allow the stealth fighter to be added. also in comparison to the Ralafe and the Eurofighter, the Gripen is not that great. it have lighter and fewer suspended armament, an no radar signature reduction.

the equivalent plane from other nation often have 7,000 to 9,500 kg of playload shared in up to 14 hardpoints. the B and E variants are getting the plane close enough to their standard.

 

and since the russian got tank built yesterday... why not having plane.

Edited June 14, 2021 by CaID

[oom1992 649]

20 minutes ago, CaID said:

nut sure about it. a new rank 8 would allow the stealth fighter to be added. also in comparison to the Ralafe and the Eurofighter, the Gripen is not that great. it have lighter and fewer suspended armament, an no radar signature reduction.

the equivalent plane from other nation often have 7,000 to 9,500 kg of playload shared in up to 14 hardpoints. the B and E variants are getting the plane close enough to their standard.

 

and since the russian got tank built yesterday... why not having plane.

Otherwise I think Saab jas 39 Gripen all variants add in rank 7 yes or no ?

[CaID 8,996]

2 minutes ago, oom1992 said:

Otherwise I think Saab jas 39 Gripen all variants add in rank 7 yes or no ?

a strong yes for me.

eventually the BR will raise to 12.0 or more, the Gripen E would be 12.0 at best.

the Draken and Vigen was plane used along side, the Gripen remplace them both

[strv122 391]

It is too modern for now but it will probably come in the future

[CaID 8,996]

8 hours ago, strv122 said:

It is too modern for now but it will probably come in the future

the game is ready to have it tomorrow, but the gripen cannot be added alone, it need to have other plane from other nation to be added at the same time to balance the gameplay

 

like those

 

USA

F/A-18E

 

Russia

Mig 35 (or SU-30MKM)

Germany
Typhoon

Uk
Typhoon

Japan
F2

 

ITaly
F-2000 (also a typhoon)

 

France
Rafale

China
J-10

 

the ideal would be to add them all at the same time, but if they add only 2-3 of them it could still be okay, but the other got to be on their way in the fallowing up-date

Edited June 14, 2021 by CaID

[eleks12 1,079]

+1 When the game is at least BR 12.0

[strv122 391]

8 minutes ago, CaID said:

the game is ready to have it tomorrow, but the gripen cannot be added alone, it need to have other plane from other nation to be added at the same time to balance the gameplay

 

like those

 

USA

F/A-18E

 

Russia

Mig 35

Germany
Typhoon

Uk
Typhoon

Japan
F2

 

ITaly
F-2000 (also a typhoon)

 

France
Rafale

China
J-10

 

the ideal would be to add them all at the same time, but if they add only 2-3 of them it could still be okay, but the other got to be on their way in the fallowing up-date

i would say that they could not be added right now as we are still missing the jets that preceded them, the max render range is only about 40km no matter what(you cant see or shoot past 40km)(right now) and thease planes have weapons with 100km+ range, there is no implementation of electronic jamming or active radar missiles and the maps are woefully inadquete for modern jets

[strv122 391]

couple things, only the 39a carried the rb75(agm65a/b)(c probably can but doesent), the 39a can carry the BK90(DWS39) clusterbomb, the 39E can use brimstone atgm's(and more)

Edited June 14, 2021 by strv122

[CaID 8,996]

14 minutes ago, strv122 said:

i would say that they could not be added right now as we are still missing the jets that preceded them, the max render range is only about 40km no matter what(you cant see or shoot past 40km)(right now) and thease planes have weapons with 100km+ range, there is no implementation of electronic jamming or active radar missiles and the maps are woefully inadquete for modern jets

those thing wouldn't be implemented before having one plane to use them. an the plane that should precede them are not necessary, they can be added later. it wouldn't be the first time Gaijin skip a logical vehicles in the research line

[strv122 391]

Just now, CaID said:

those thing wouldn't be implemented before having one plane to use them. an the plane that should precede them are not necessary, they can be added later. it wouldn't be the first time Gaijin skip a logical vehicles in the research line

maybe but it would be very sad of them to skip planes like the viggen, tomcat etc

[CaID 8,996]

1 minute ago, strv122 said:

maybe but it would be very sad of them to skip planes like the viggen, tomcat etc

i am sure the viggen is on the way already. if i didn't mention them, it's because they are fighter/interceptor, i only consider equivalent plane according to their class without comparing the other class too deeply, The Gripen is a multi-role, so i compare it with other multi-role.

[Fireraid233 4,274]

+1

[oom1992 649]

22 hours ago, CaID said:

a strong yes for me.

eventually the BR will raise to 12.0 or more, the Gripen E would be 12.0 at best.

the Draken and Vigen was plane used along side, the Gripen remplace them both

I guess Gripen E got BR 12.3 or 12.7 no more than this

Edited June 15, 2021 by oom1992

[Arcadia_Nyx 811]

+1
It is my favorite sexy aircraft. I would love to see that in Warthunder someday.
But when you implement these aircraft, you will need to increase the BR limit significantly.

If the current weirdness continues, with the Mig-21 and CL-13 having the same BR and all that, I won't welcome the promise of a higher generation... Anyway, whether I welcome Gen4/Gen4.5 jets or not is up to Gaijin.

[BlinMachine11 49]

Sure, its nice but isn’t it a little early to start suggesting planes of this calibre?

Edited June 18, 2021 by BlinMachine11

[WreckingAres283 4,262]

+1 (for all) but this thing is very strong, follwing would be (best case) counterparts:

 

Spoiler

USA: F/A-18C, F-16C, F-15C (I guess gaijin wont get license for later ones)

 

Germany: yes.... Typhoon ? (dont like that at all)

 

Russia: MiG-35 / MiG-29M, Su-30SM, Su-35 (I guess gaijin wont get license for later ones)

 

UK: yes.... Typhoon I guess..

 

Italy: another Typhoon....I guess........

 

Japan: F-15J, F-2

 

France: Dassault Rafale, Mirage 2000D, Mirage 4000, F-15

 

China: J-10, J-11A / B / D, Su-30MKK, Su-30MKV (Vietnam)

 

so, this is still gonna take a while but license problems could come up also, from what I heard even DCS has problems for Tornado license, I wouldnt expect late versions of any jet (or tank...)

Edited October 7, 2021 by WreckingAres283

[Arakneo 856]

On 18/06/2021 at 13:58, WreckingAres283 said:

+1 (for all) but this thing is very strong, follwing would be (best case) counterparts:

 

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USA: F/A-18C, F-16C (F-16 gets IRST first in Block ~70), F-15C (I guess gaijin wont get license for later ones)

 

Germany: yes (if we buy F/A-18, F-16 or Rafale, then ye...), Typhoon ? (dont like that at all)

 

Russia: MiG-35 / MiG-29SM, Su-30SM <3  (I guess gaijin wont get license for later ones)

 

UK: yes.... Typhoon I guess..

 

Italy: another Typhoon....I guess........

 

Japan: F-15J, F-2

 

France: Dessault Rafale <3, Mirage 2000D (no guns ik, but 2000C will most likely come with F-14B / MiG-29S / Su-27S etc)

 

China: J-10, J-11A

 

so, this is still gonna take a while but license problems could come up also, from what I heard even DCS has problems for Tornado license, I wouldnt expect late versions of any jet (or tank...)

why do ypu hate the ef so much?

[WreckingAres283 4,262]

5 minutes ago, Arakneo said:

why do ypu hate the ef so much?

I just don’t like it at all…

[MonkeyBussiness 1,228]

+1

[Vedrfölnir 492]

+1 However, it will take some time before the Gripen will be added to the game.

[magorti magyar@live 1]

+1 I just love the plane itself, 10/10 idea, it is my dream plane for war thunder