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[Discussion] What is "ZTZ-99W"?? A brief overview of the "ZTZ-99" series(Content Google Translate)


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Regarding the "ZTZ-99W" mentioned in the CDK, many friends do not know what kind of variant it is. I am happy to answer this question for you. In fact, "ZTZ-99W" is the ZTZ-99-2 "Phase II Improved Type",but this is also my personal judgment. It may be due to some misunderstandings. There is no such model name in Chinese. Only different stages of improvement are used to distinguish names, except for ZTZ-99A. (The current War Thunder game is the ZTZ-99-1 "Improved Phase One". Compared with the prototype, the "FY-4" ERA and the armor in front of the turret have been added)

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Some of the changes in the second phase of the improvement are: the new "FY-5" ERA (also used in the ZTZ-99A). Limited improvements to the turret structure, and the use of a new active laser suppression viewing system, the engine does not New changes (99A only started to use the 1500 horsepower engine)

 

 

Reference: During the Vostok 2018 military exercise held by Russia (Russian: Восток 2018, lit. 'East 2018'), the main tank that China participated in was the ZTZ-99-2 "Phase II Improved Type". This is very rare, because China often participates in Russia’s The series of military activities/competitions all use the ZTZ-96 series. ZTL-11 and Type 86A also participated. Those interested can search for related videos._

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Supplement: In addition to the prototype version (WZ-123/Project “9910” prototype, MBT developed based on T-72, It also has a wrong call "ZTZ-98" ), ZTZ-99 has three different variants, namely "Improved Phase I 99-1/99G", "Improved in Phase II 99-2/99G2", and "Improved in Phase III". The third improvement is also called "ZTZ-99A"(There are also rumors that "Improved in Phase III" may be named "ZTZ-10", but this name was cancelled for various reasons and changed to "ZTZ-99A"), which is different from the previous several modifications, because ZTZ-99A is almost a newly designed top main battle tank, but the current output is still small, so ZTZ -99 early models and ZTZ-96 series will also be in service in PLA, until ZTZ-99A is fully equipped with PLA (Chinese military).In addition to the 99A still being produced in China, all previous models have been discontinued.

 

If you still can’t understand, I will introduce it in a simpler way:
1.ZTZ-99-0/ZTZ-98(prototype) First appeared in the 1999 military parade in China
2. ZTZ-99-1 (early production type, the version that appeared in the game) Never appeared in the parade
3. ZTZ-99-2 (post-production type, version appearing in CDK) First appeared in the 2009 military parade in China
4. ZTZ-99A (Ultimate version) Appeared in China's military parades in 2015 and 2019

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I spent 5 hours looking up information and annotating these pictures, although some translations seem strange XDD

 

Disclaimer: The above information comes from the public information on the Internet, I am only responsible for collating
 

 

Additional content Yes, she is here! But what is "ZTZ99-Ⅲ", is this "ZTZ99A"? No, no, in fact, the interpretation of "Ⅲ" is "the third state". Note that it is "status" rather than "improvement"
In more common terms, the explanation is "the third state of ZTZ99". Do you remember the "second improvement" model we talked about before? This is the "ZTZ99-Ⅲ" that debuted this time.
In this way, we can understand that the "ZTZ99 first phase improvement" that has already appeared in the game can be called the "second state". Before that, the earliest "ZTZ99 prototype car" that appeared in 1999 can be called "the first state"
Names like this "Class I, II,III status" are more commonly used by the Chinese military or research institutes. Basically no one in the folks use this name, because it seems too "professional" XD.
And "ZTZ-99A" will not be called "Category IV". As I said before, ZTZ99A is a nearly brand-new designed tank. This name does not apply to her.:)

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Thank you for patient answering, you are doing great job to let us know about this cool vehicle.
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Fixed an error, ZBD-04A is similar to BMP-3M, they are both infantry fighting vehicles. Similar to BMD-3 is ZBD-03, they are airborne infantry fighting vehicles.

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7 hours ago, SturmWerwolf said:

Interesting, alot of those modern Chinese tanks and IFVs are indeed pretty confusing. They've got a miniature ZTZ-99 also now, the Type 15 I think ?

@SturmWerwolfYes, there is a Type 15 "Black Panther" light tank, or Z (Armour) T (Tank) Q (Light)-15, but it is not a variant of the ZTZ-99 series, it is more like a separately developed Version, the purpose is to fight in high altitude areas. The engine uses a 1,000-horsepower diesel engine and weighs 30 tons +. The weapon uses the same Type 94 105mm tank gun as the 59D (not D1) (a later improved version of the L7 gun in China). The 2000-meter armor penetration depth is conservatively estimated to be 500mm-600mm, and it has an automatic loader. I also heard that it has a normal version and an advanced version (command version?), there may be differences in auxiliary equipment, such as the commander's infrared perimeter mirror, remote control howitzer, etc. However, there is still very little useful information about these two tanks, because they are so new.
Also, her foreign trade version is called "VT-5", vt5 information is relatively easy to find

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The picture is the Marine Corps version

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it's fine,but something wrong.

 

On 13/07/2021 at 08:17, Ailb said:

@SturmWerwolfYes, there is a Type 15 "Black Panther" light tank, or Z (Armour) T (Tank) Q (Light)-15, but it is not a variant of the ZTZ-99 series, it is more like a separately developed Version, the purpose is to fight in high altitude areas. The engine uses a 1,000-horsepower diesel engine and weighs 30 tons +. The weapon uses the same Type 94 105mm tank gun as the 59D (not D1) (a later improved version of the L7 gun in China). The 2000-meter armor penetration depth is conservatively estimated to be 500mm-600mm, and it has an automatic loader. I also heard that it has a normal version and an advanced version (command version?), there may be differences in auxiliary equipment, such as the commander's infrared perimeter mirror, remote control howitzer, etc. However, there is still very little useful information about these two tanks, because they are so new.
Also, her foreign trade version is called "VT-5", vt5 information is relatively easy to find

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The picture is the Marine Corps version

In fact, ZTQ-15 and VT-5 are two different projects.The development of VT-5 followed the progress made in ZTQ-15. In an interview, the chief designer said that the VT-5 is a foreign trade-oriented tank based on the international foreign trade market environment, using a large number of advanced and mature technologies from new light tanks.

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On 12/07/2021 at 23:54, Ailb said:

If you still can’t understand, I will introduce it in a simpler way:
1.ZTZ-99-0/ZTZ-98(prototype) First appeared in the 1999 military parade in China
2. ZTZ-99-1 (early production type, the version that appeared in the game) Never appeared in the parade
3. ZTZ-99-2 (post-production type, version appearing in CDK) First appeared in the 2009 military parade in China
4. ZTZ-99A (Ultimate version) Appeared in China's military parades in 2015 and 2019

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Not so simple, you should not invent the name that we never used.

What is ZTZ-99-0? Have the official named it as what you stated?

Do you come from Tactical deception Bureau?

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1 hour ago, Hinyanawi_Tenshi said:

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Not so simple, you should not invent the name that we never used.

What is ZTZ-99-0? Have the official named it as what you stated?

Do you come from Tactical deception Bureau?

Ah, so that's gonna be the next one right the ZTZ-99 IV "Tactical Deception Version". You guys should name them like Gasoline here in the US, have the "Regular", "Plus", "Premium", "Super" and "Super Plus". :lol:

Honestly, these tanks are pretty confusing.

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4 minutes ago, SturmWerwolf said:

Ah, so that's gonna be the next one right the ZTZ-99 IV "Tactical Deception Version". You guys should name them like Gasoline here in the US, have the "Regular", "Plus", "Premium", "Super" and "Super Plus". :lol:

Honestly, these tanks are pretty confusing.

The next one seems to be another tank, as ZTZ-99II. They have different modification so they have different name here.

As you said, these confusing name, yeah, you could call them Plus Pro Exclusive and so on.(As we knew Super AMX30 or such thing.)

Because that actually what they use confusing name writing in the documents.

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15 minutes ago, Hinyanawi_Tenshi said:

The next one seems to be another tank, as ZTZ-99II. They have different modification so they have different name here.

As you said, these confusing name, yeah, you could call them Plus Pro Exclusive and so on.(As we knew Super AMX30 or such thing.)

Because that actually what they use confusing name writing in the documents.

Interesting, I should grind these out sometime. They're very sleek and unique looking tanks for sure.

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On 7/24/2021 at 9:46 AM, Hinyanawi_Tenshi said:

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Not so simple, you should not invent the name that we never used.

What is ZTZ-99-0? Have the official named it as what you stated?

Do you come from Tactical deception Bureau?

Please, as far as I know, the PRC military has always had strict control over military equipment data. They seldom release some substantive data (and do not even rule out that they release fake data) and they will even punish some people who leak "data". (It's a pity, isn't it XDD) I just made this post to let more people get a general understanding of PLA's military equipment. I believe the original intention of this forum is to allow players to express their views and opinions as much as possible. I still insist on my views and opinions. Oh, right, I have no intention of offending your authority  :)

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There is a lot of people that would get confused about this, the new Type 99 is NOT the 99A because it has bigger ERA's and the length of the 99A has a shorter length. So there are 4 Type 99's in total which is the Type 99, Type 99-II (That we currently have in game), Type 99-III(That is coming to this upcoming update), and the Type 99-IV (Which is also called the Type 99A but it coming into the game in the future. So there are 4 Type 99 variants. But the very first Type 99 did NOT enter service for the PLA Army. But it would be nice that if Gaijin adds all the Type 99's that China uses. Since we have 4 variants of the Abrams. Which is the M1 Abrams, IPM1, M1A1, and the M1A2, so why not doing the same for China too. But again I hope that all four Type 99's be added into the game! 

 

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On 21/08/2021 at 11:37, CakeJuniorMan said:

There is a lot of people that would get confused about this, the new Type 99 is NOT the 99A because it has bigger ERA's and the length of the 99A has a shorter length. So there are 4 Type 99's in total which is the Type 99, Type 99-II (That we currently have in game), Type 99-III(That is coming to this upcoming update), and the Type 99-IV (Which is also called the Type 99A but it coming into the game in the future. So there are 4 Type 99 variants. But the very first Type 99 did NOT enter service for the PLA Army. But it would be nice that if Gaijin adds all the Type 99's that China uses. Since we have 4 variants of the Abrams. Which is the M1 Abrams, IPM1, M1A1, and the M1A2, so why not doing the same for China too. But again I hope that all four Type 99's be added into the game! 

 

It's a simple explain for it:

Now whether the in-game ZTZ99-II or ZTZ99-III incoming, they are both ZTZ-99, but in different design/test stage.

99A never called 99-IV because it's a different project, they have a name(about developing time - 1999) related, but in fact the 99A is quite different because it's not only a simple update of 99 series.

It's a brand-new design.

 

And, here is a explain about what "W" in ZTZ-99W,

It means "Welded-turret" here.

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1 hour ago, Hinyanawi_Tenshi said:

It's a simple explain for it:

Now whether the in-game ZTZ99-II or ZTZ99-III incoming, they are both ZTZ-99, but in different design/test stage.

99A never called 99-IV because it's a different project, they have a name(about developing time - 1999) related, but in fact the 99A is quite different because it's not only a simple update of 99 series.

It's a brand-new design.

 

And, here is a explain about what "W" in ZTZ-99W,

It means "Welded-turret" here.

Oh ok, I see now but I know that the Type 99A is a brand new design, but I guess that makes more sense know for the 99-II and the 99-III! 

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6 minutes ago, Ailb said:

Is this 99A? ?  -5 depression angle, 4.8km/h reversing, Goddamnit, what's wrong with you Gaijin? ! !

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placeholder values. the "NATO hump" at the back should be obvious that it moves like a Leopard/Abrams, even in reverse. Pretty sure the vehicle has just been rushed

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1 minute ago, NAYEONnaise said:

placeholder values. the "NATO hump" at the back should be obvious that it moves like a Leopard/Abrams, even in reverse. Pretty sure the vehicle has just been rushed

Yes, the ZTZ99A is equipped with a 1,500 hp (1,119 kW) engine and is placed horizontally. He looks like a NATO tank with a hot "hip", but this one in the game obviously applies the power data of the previous 99, which makes i am sad:facepalm:

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11 hours ago, Ailb said:

Is this 99A? ?  -5 depression angle, 4.8km/h reversing, Goddamnit, what's wrong with you Gaijin? ! !

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Please contact improvement to fix this horrible problem

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