WWM 1 Year Later

[_TigaMafia 1,039]

It's been over 1 year now since last WWM season and there is nothing saying that the next one is comming.
Last 3 seasons were organized every ~6 months, now even in the recent Q&A devs didn't said anything about WWM. Is the idea dead now?

Edited July 18, 2021 by _Razorr_

[_HoovyLuca_ 248]

I don't know, but I want to see a new season soon too

[Barbaillou 730]

I was hoping they were secretly working on WWM to improve it, but this silence is not a good sign.

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On 20/07/2021 at 12:27, Barbaillou said:

I was hoping they were secretly working on WWM to improve it, but this silence is not a good sign.

Silence Can Be Both Good And Bad, It Might Mean A Full Rework Of WWM To A Big Degree, Or Means It Shelved For The Time Being With More Importance Taken By The Battlepass.

Or The Battlepass And WWM Are For This Season Tied Together. Who Knows.

[Barbaillou 730]

May be. But Gaijin and optimism are 2 antinomic words... 

[Ash nazg durbatulûk 318]

Gaijin's servers and game engine are very bad for WW modes  They can't try again

Edited July 28, 2021 by _Lethe_

[NibbledPots 62]

I think the problem is that, by and large, most people couldn't care less if the next season came out today or in another year. Most of the vocal playerbase doesn't really care about WWM, so its probably not a top priority compared to things like the battlepass or operation summer.

[LuftKaffee 188]

I dont know why i should play/like that kind of WWM..
In the beginning was my imagination of an EC for Ground Forces or new kind of maps and Ai, new Gamemodes, Histroical battles  ... 

But in the end it was like an restriced random battle in Arcademode and I lost completly the interest 

 

Sorry but Arcade feels like playing on test ground.... 

 

 

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11 hours ago, LuftKaffee said:

I dont know why i should play/like that kind of WWM..
In the beginning was my imagination of an EC for Ground Forces or new kind of maps and Ai, new Gamemodes, Histroical battles  ... 

But in the end it was like an restriced random battle in Arcademode and I lost completly the interest 

 

Sorry but Arcade feels like playing on test ground.... 

 

You Have No Idea What You're Talking About Lol.

Season 3 Was Full RB.
Season 1/2 Wasn't Even Full AB, It Was RB With Markers AKA Tournament RB Settings.

 

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restriced random battle

 

You Completely Miss The Point And Have No Idea What WWM In General Holds. 
It's A Mode Of Strategic Map Control With Meta Game. 

Squad Leader Lead The Operation, Choose The Units That Go Into Battle And Decide What Kind Of Battle Happens, This Goes From Convoy Defense / Attack, Sector Defense / Attack And So Forth, They Decide How They Get To Their Map Objectives And Players Go Into Battles So Commanders Can Get Their Objectives Done.

Random People That Don't Play Squadrons Usually Don't Inform Themselves On How This Gamemode Actually Works, And Gaijin As They Try, Don't Really Inform The Player Too Much On How It Works & Plays Out.

Get Yourself An Actual Squadron, Sit In A VC With Multiple People And Actually Understand How It Works And You'll See You'll Enjoy It Much More, Knowing How It Is Behind The Screens Instead Of Just Seeing WWM As "Random AB Battles". 

If You Got The Time, Take A Read On What To Full Expect From WWM:
For Squad Commanders: https://wiki.warthunder.com/World_War:_For_Commanders
For Combat Players: https://wiki.warthunder.com/World_War:_To_the_combat_troops

Edit: You Kinda Want To Know What Goes On For Commanders To Fully Understand The Battles You Get / Join

Edited July 29, 2021 by ShimakazeChan

[LuftKaffee 188]

2 hours ago, ShimakazeChan said:

Season 1/2 Wasn't Even Full AB, It Was RB With Markers AKA Tournament RB Settings.

 

That was my first impression about the mode which get ruined and i lost immediately my interesst about that "gamemode"

2 hours ago, ShimakazeChan said:

Actual Squadron, Sit In A VC With Multiple People

 

I was in that moment in a Squadron

2 hours ago, ShimakazeChan said:

Squad Leader Lead The Operation, Choose The Units That Go Into Battle And Decide What Kind Of Battle Happens, This Goes From Convoy Defense / Attack, Sector Defense / Attack And So Forth, They Decide How They Get To Their Map Objectives And Players Go Into Battles So Commanders Can Get Their Objectives Done.

 

My impression was a absurd matches like Tier I SPAA´s vs Bombers on Vietnam. If the commander are completly dump...

 

In all i had no choice about the vehicels, yes I know it depends on the senario..

But I hate playing Tier I vehicels and special if I have to change every match the Vehicel like a roulette.

In between I had very annoying possibilitys about the my line up, some vehicels was expanded in my Techtree but ingame i got they Stock, the same thing was with the crews. 

I had no overview about which slot a vehicel is aced which not. (I dont know maybe it was everything possible and i couldnt managed it)

 

Maybe it isnt my playstyle, because normaly I´m focus on one vehicel which I´m playing all day, so I dont like to change everymatch between the vehicels like Heavy tank -> Air battle -> light tanks -> Bomber....

 

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12 hours ago, LuftKaffee said:

But I hate playing Tier I vehicels and special if I have to change every match the Vehicel like a roulette.

In between I had very annoying possibilitys about the my line up, some vehicels was expanded in my Techtree but ingame i got they Stock, the same thing was with the crews. 

I had no overview about which slot a vehicel is aced which not. (I dont know maybe it was everything possible and i couldnt managed it)

 

Maybe it isnt my playstyle, because normaly I´m focus on one vehicel which I´m playing all day, so I dont like to change everymatch between the vehicels like Heavy tank -> Air battle -> light tanks -> Bomber....

 

Most Of The Issues You've Just Brought Up Have All Been Remedied In Season 3.

All Vehicles You Didn't Have / Did Have But Stock Would Be Automatically Be Spaded For You In Said Match.
All Battles Were Full RB, No Markers (Including Air)
Season 3 Was Mainly Tier V / VI (But This Is Something That Changes Per Season, So Just Take The Time To Check The Scenario's At Play And If It Sparks Any Intrest In Tier)

The Crew Sloting Is Something To Get Used To But It Favours Having Multiple Crew Slots Highly Crew Leveled Instead Of Singular Point Vehicles. (Which Still Can Work Regardless But You Get What I Mean.)
 

12 hours ago, LuftKaffee said:

Maybe it isnt my playstyle, because normaly I´m focus on one vehicel which I´m playing all day, so I dont like to change everymatch between the vehicels like Heavy tank -> Air battle -> light tanks -> Bomber....

Well This I Can't Really Help You With In WWM, Best I Could Tell You Is To Just Cherry Pick Battles To Only Play The Vehicle Types You Like. You Want To Play Tanks Only For The Day? Just Only Cherry Pick Ground Battles With Sector Defense/Attack. Don't Feel Like Playing Tanks For The Day? Just Hop In The Skies And Obtain Air Supermacy In Air To Air Battles. 

Also, As A Squad Commander Myself, I Try To Keep Air Units Purely For Air-To-Air Combat, Air Is A Strong Factor In Ground Battles But There's 2 Major Downsides To It In WWM.
1. If You Rely On Randoms / Don't Have The Best Pilots In Your Squad, You'll Lose Important Assets As Planes Don't Come Plenty So I Usually Don't Pull Them In Ground Strikes What So Ever.
2. If You Pull An Air Unit For Ground Attack, Which With Good Pilots Can Be Godsent, The Enemy Has Free Dominance Over A Single Air Unit, And They Can Have 2 Air Units Up At All Time, While The Other Commander Can Only Have 1 As The Other Is In Combat.
=> All This Makes Air Units In Ground Battles A Rare Sight, As They Are A Valuable Tool In Controlling The Strategic Map And Dominance. 

Edited July 30, 2021 by ShimakazeChan

[SvenTheFree 1,745]

Unfortunately it looks like world war mode is over. 

[bananomet 633]

Honestly the only mode I miss is Enduring Confrontation RB which has been put to sleep in favor of the not so well executed WWM.

#bringbackECRB

[IIIWolfeIII 177]

On 25/07/2021 at 16:42, ShimakazeChan said:

Silence Can Be Both Good And Bad, It Might Mean A Full Rework Of WWM To A Big Degree, Or Means It Shelved For The Time Being With More Importance Taken By The Battlepass.

Or The Battlepass And WWM Are For This Season Tied Together. Who Knows.

That´s awefully optimistic. According to this logic they are actually working on gameplay improvements... but looking at the last 4 years.. mh.

 

Tons of vehicles.. vehicles.. vehicles.. premium vehicles.. vehicles.. battlepass.. top tier premiums that they said never will be added.. vehicles.. vehicles.. ignoring alot constructive improvements and additions for game modes... vehicles.. premium.. premium vehicles... premium... vehicles.. new map markers ingame.

 

nope, I don´t think so. Just look at the people asking for Air RB Enduring Confrontation, it´s being plain ignored for a solid 4 years~

And if right.. the last bit should mean it will only take about 16 more years for anything gameplay related to be improved, but don´t nail me on that one, might take a bit longer 

 

Disclaimer: This Post contains sarcasm, as a paying supporter of this game I take the freedom to criticise dev decisions from my point of view as a long time player. There are alot of actual improvements namely content, engine improvements such as sounds and graphics. But still the whole approach of improving the gameplay itself and handling feedback from the playerbase are somewhat "interesting" to say the least.

[Sumimoto 6]

I don't think, that WWM is canceled, There is still an interface in game (And WT is already a heavy game, so if it was canceled, it would be removed to save space on their servers) 
 

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On 26/10/2021 at 16:45, IIIWolfeIII said:

That´s awefully optimistic. According to this logic they are actually working on gameplay improvements... but looking at the last 4 years.. mh.

 

I Get Where You're Coming From But A Minor New Feature Is Big For Gaijin If You Get How, And In What Way I Mean It.

 

While My Initial Guess That Season 2 BP (Or 3? Not Even Keeping Track Anymore) Being Tied To A Potential WWM Was Wrong, I Still Don't See It Being "Cancelled". The Gamemode Has Been On Hiatus For A More Than A Year Now, I Just Think This Year Of Adding The BP Just Shoved WWM Priority Down For This Year To The Degree Of Keeping It On Hold Until The Next If Not Longer.

Gaijin Keeps Saying That WWM Is Still A Thing They Want To Do, Further Information As Of When And Where... Be My Guest In The Waiting Lounge At Gaijin.

Edited October 30, 2021 by ShimakazeChan