french spaa Panhard AML HS30, 30mm AML who can have add-on armor/flaoting kit

[CaID 8,996]

 

i would like to suggest a nice amored-car who can act as AFV and SPAA at the same time, the Panhard AML HS30

 

the development of the panhard AML HS.30 was rather unclear. it was presented for the first time in SATORY 1971. the vehicles was a Panhard AML mounting a brand new HS 30 turret built by CNMP. the turret was featuring a 30mm gun and was designed to serve as anti-air fire-support as much as to fight ground target. been recorded in different test over the time. the AML HS.30 was offered to export from 1971 and disappeared a bit before the 80 from the market.

 

 

Firepower

the main armament of the AML HS 30 was the 30mm HSS 831A . the gun was capable to be set in automatic with a fire-rate of 600 rpm , it could also be in burst or in single-shot . the AML carry 200 rounds for the 30mm with a belt of 155 rounds ready to use and 45 rounds are stored . the elevation are -8°/+45° which allow a decent AA capactity be still offer a huge blind zone above the vehicle. the gun vertical speed is 40°/sec and the turret rotation speed is 80°/sec which allow a excellent capacity to fallow even the fastest planes in the game.

an AA.52 7.62mm LMG is placed as coaxial Machine-gun next to the auto-cannon. a 2nd AA.52 is normally mounted on the roof in operational duty. the AML carry 2200 rounds for the 7.62mm

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weapon of type dual purpose auto-cannon. exported by switzerland all around the world.

 

dual purpose anti-tank/anti-aircraft auto-cannon, developed in the early 50 by the Swiss part of hispano-suiza. it was exported to many country including france before getting renamed Oerlikon KCB.in France, the gun was mounted in SPAA to provide the armored units anti-aircraft cover. they also exported them to other country. Hispano-suiza was providing them with part and rounds at will.
 

Weight: 138  kg

Magazine: belt or

barrel caliber : L/75

rounds size: 30 x 170 mm R

Rate of fire: 600 rpm

practical range: 3000m

 

 

ammo

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unknown name (SAPHE)

semi-armour percing round for lightly armored target.

 

weight : 360 g

Velocity : 1080 m/sec

explosive filler : 18 g (Hexal)

 

Penetration (ingame)

50mm at 100 meter, angle 0°

39 mm at 500 meter, angle 0°

29 mm at 1000 meter, angle 0°

21mm at 1500 meter, angle 0°

16mm at 2000 meter, angle 0°

 

L14A2 (APDS)

APDS rounds created for the RARDEN by UK but available under license to Oerlikon (who supply by contract the ammunition to France for the AMX-13 DCA)

 

weight : 300 g

Velocity : 1175 m/sec

 

Penetration (ingame)

101mm at 100 meter, angle 0°

95mm at 500 meter, angle 0°

61mm at 1000 meter, angle 0°

52mm at 1500 meter, angle 0°

41mm at 2000 meter, angle 0°

 

OEI (HEI)

standard High explosive round for the 30mm HSS 831

 

weight : 360 g

Velocity : 1080 m/sec

explosive filler : 36 g (Hexal)

 

OEIT (HEI-T)

standard High explosive round with tracer for the 30mm HSS 831

 

weight : 360 g

Velocity : 1080 m/sec

explosive filler : 26 g (Hexal)

 

 

Mobility

the mobility of the AML HS.30 shall not be much different than the AML 90 one. the weight only 50 kg heavier will not give a much noticeable acceleration over the other AML that is currently in game (and other that could be added)

powered by the Panhard modèle 4 HD 4-cylindres engine offering 90 hp , and a weight approximately of 5.5 tons , the tiny vehicles can reach the good speed of 90 km/h. proven highly mobile in all terrain, this little vehicle would be an excellent flanking assets.

 

an amphibious kit was also tested with the AML HS.30 who was made by covering the hull with thin metal box filled with Polyurethane . the weight would then reach 6 tons but give the advantage of floating.

Protection

the hull Armor remain very light, to a point the LMG can even penetrate it. it is as far we can tell, identical to the chassis of the AML-90 currently ingame

with a 10mm of armor all around, the hull is rather vulnerable to all sort of enemy fire.

 

the turret Armor however is much better. having the armor un-specified anywhere in the source i found, the photo evidence show the gun shield have a thicker armor. it can be estimate to 20-25mm of armor there. which would explain the weight been heavier than the HS.90 turret of the AML-90 in-game. this should allow at least the turret crew to be protected against the HMG from the front. the side is likely 10mm as well

 

4x smoke launcher are placed at the rear of the turret which would allow a smoke screen to allow some cover to retreat from a fight.

 

the Amphibious kit is also considered as protection. the Kit a dd about 4mm of armor all around and is filled of polyurethane who was self extinguishing and this very kit was know to detonate HEAT rounds before it hit the hull

 

 

Specifications
Mass	5.5 tonnes
Length	5.11 m (16 ft 9 in) [6]
length	3.79 m (12 ft 5 in) (hull) [6]
Width	1.97 m (6 ft 6 in) [6]
Height	2.07 m (6 ft 9 in) [5]
Crew	3 (commander, driver, gunner) [6]
Main armament	30mm HSS 831A (200 rounds)
Secondary armament	2x 7.62 mm MAS coaxial machine gun (2200 rounds)
Engine	Panhard 1.99 l (121 in3) Model 4 HD flat 4-cylinder air-cooled petrol [7] 90 hp (67 kW) at 4,700 rpm [5]
Power/weight	18.75 hp/tonne (11.9 kW/tonne) [5]
Suspension	Wheeled 4x4
Ground clearance	0.33 m (1 ft 1 in) [5]
Fuel capacity	156 L (41 US gal)
Operational range	600 km (370 mi) [6]
Maximum speed	90 km/h

 

Source

 

Jane's World Armoured Fighting vehicles, 1976

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Jane's Weapon system 1977

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Les Véhicules Blindé Français 1945-1977

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[Miki_Hoshii 2,449]

Open for discussion.

[Abaddon75 460]

well I vote for the floating kit / heat nullifier to be reasearchable component.

[CubicSquare 156]

AMLs are Iconic. This just looks like alot of fun. +1

[Milocat 4,857]

Looks great!  +1 from me for sure.

[John4Plays 70]

Looks badass, +1 from me!

[Valcour 1,141]

Nice!  +1

 

[idiot400 664]

+1, who doesn't want a mini falcon on wheels?

[CaID 8,996]

On 12/09/2021 at 18:37, idiot400 said:

+1, who doesn't want a mini falcon on wheels?

the enemy?

[Zombificus 793]

With licensed RARDEN ammo, it should have reasonable penetration, correct? If so, this seems like a nice French counterpart to Japan's Type 87 RCV which theoretically should be easier to add than some other options, thanks to its hull already being in the game. The amphibious kit seems great, too, and would probably be a modification like with the XM8's composite package. I'd like to see this, provided it's appropriately BRed. 

[Cedjoe 5,482]

3 hours ago, Zombificus said:

With licensed RARDEN ammo, it should have reasonable penetration, correct? If so, this seems like a nice French counterpart to Japan's Type 87 RCV which theoretically should be easier to add than some other options, thanks to its hull already being in the game. The amphibious kit seems great, too, and would probably be a modification like with the XM8's composite package. I'd like to see this, provided it's appropriately BRed. 

Same gun as the AMX-30 DCA, so it certainly would have decent penetration.

[Zombificus 793]

46 minutes ago, Cedjoe said:

Same gun as the AMX-30 DCA, so it certainly would have decent penetration.

Fantastic.

[Valcour 1,141]

On 06/09/2021 at 12:46, CubicSquare said:

AMLs are Iconic. This just looks like alot of fun. +1

Don't say that.  Gaijin will put it behind a paywall.  

 

It does look fun.  +1 from me.

 

[CaID 8,996]

3 hours ago, Zombificus said:

Fantastic.

beside, i usually put s spoiler under the "Firepower" part where you can find details about the ammunition the vehicles use. i do that in every new suggestion for a little while now. this one is no exeption

[eleks12 1,079]

+1

[Hyrikul 2,633]

Looks really nice !

 

But 200 ammo for 600rpm looks really short. Need to camp a captured point

[Player_2456 8]

Love the AML 90 cant wait for this thing to be added, hopefully +1

[EliyahUwU 4]

+1

[RAYhill 43]

+1 with the amphibious kit. Looks amazing!

[Kasukaru 2,164]

Cool. Why not? +1