On the issue of Chinese and Soviet artillery shields

[RIjing 16]

In the game, I found that the gun shields of Chinese and Soviet tanks were dug in order to install guns. But their thickness is very different. Here I took some comparison pictures from the same angle. I hope you can see if there is an error in the assignment.

Behind the hole digging area is the cannon bolt. There is no other obstruction

[Miraz05 255]

can you share these pictures in english?(OK im sorry for asking,no need to be confused)

 

Edited April 15, 2022 by Miraz05

[Merzhi 174]

This is an issue with a lot of the modern Chinese tanks in game. I did an analysis on the ZTZ96 a while and found that the armor was mostly incorrect as well.

The ZTZ99 definitely has similar issues and if I was able to find similar pictures of the turret to look at I could probably come to similar conclusions. I doubt they'll ever fix it with images alone and you'll need blueprints or something to actually get any change done but as we all know that's never going to happen because it's all confidential information.

[spacesoldier117 876]

On 17/04/2022 at 05:30, Merzhi said:

This is an issue with a lot of the modern Chinese tanks in game. I did an analysis on the ZTZ96 a while and found that the armor was mostly incorrect as well.

The ZTZ99 definitely has similar issues and if I was able to find similar pictures of the turret to look at I could probably come to similar conclusions. I doubt they'll ever fix it with images alone and you'll need blueprints or something to actually get any change done but as we all know that's never going to happen because it's all confidential information.

Sorry to bother you again @Smin1080p but are you able to track down what's happening with this report? Especially after that the consultant got dismissed, would be ideal to go back to it.
Cheers

[Smin1080p_WT 60,444]

17 hours ago, spacesoldier117 said:

Sorry to bother you again @Smin1080p but are you able to track down what's happening with this report? Especially after that the consultant got dismissed, would be ideal to go back to it.
Cheers

 

Hello

 

It seems the user was directed to make individual reports on those issues as it was bundled into one. Do you perhaps have a link(s) to the resulting reports? As then I can confirm their status. 

[spacesoldier117 876]

@Merzhi shoot your shot.

[Merzhi 174]

18 hours ago, spacesoldier117 said:

Sorry to bother you again @Smin1080p but are you able to track down what's happening with this report? Especially after that the consultant got dismissed, would be ideal to go back to it.
Cheers

 

31 minutes ago, Smin1080p said:

 

Hello

 

It seems the user was directed to make individual reports on those issues as it was bundled into one. Do you perhaps have a link(s) to the resulting reports? As then I can confirm their status. 

I reported all these individually a year or two ago. One of the reports was ignored and never acknowledged (Hull armor incorrect on ZTZ96/A), the other(turret/mantlet armor) was dismissed entirely due to a lack of primary or secondary sources, not like I'd be getting primary sources on exact dimensions of RHA/CHA thickness of CN armor anyway as we all know. All of it was estimates calculated by me using whatever references I could find in the images.

 

 

What's funny about my bug reports is that when the ZTZ96 was initially added in the first dev server they used both of the images in the spoiler below to buff the mantlet and side armor of the turret with ZERO PRIMARY OR SECONDARY SOURCES needed. Why are real pictures only used as reference sometimes when they should be used to model the tank all the time if rough estimates of the armor can be made? I literally went out of my way in my reports to make the most accurate measurements possible. It would be nice if there was some consistency so the whole process wasn't nearly as frustrating as it is, especially with modern vehicles that have zero primary source data on things like this. There is almost no information on the internet on the thickness of the armor behind the composite on the ZTZ96, all we can do is guess.

Spoiler

 

Edited April 19, 2022 by Merzhi

[Smin1080p_WT 60,444]

7 minutes ago, Merzhi said:

 

I reported all these individually a year or two ago. One of the reports was ignored and never acknowledged (Hull armor incorrect on ZTZ96/A), the other(turret/mantlet armor) was dismissed entirely due to a lack of primary or secondary sources, not like I'd be getting primary sources on exact dimensions of RHA/CHA thickness of CN armor anyway as we all know. All of it was estimates calculated by me using whatever references I could find in the images.

 

 

What's funny about my bug reports is that when the ZTZ96 was initially added in the first dev server they used both of the images in the spoiler below to buff the mantlet and side armor of the turret with ZERO PRIMARY OR SECONDARY SOURCES needed. Why are real pictures only used as reference sometimes when they should be used to model the tank all the time if rough estimates of the armor can be made? I literally went out of my way in my reports to make the most accurate measurements possible. It would be nice if there was some consistency so the whole process wasn't nearly as frustrating as it is, especially with modern vehicles that have zero primary source data on things like this. There is almost no information on the internet on the thickness of the armor behind the composite on the ZTZ96, all we can do is guess.

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We require two agreeing secondary source materials to make a report valid. If that criteria can be met as described within, we can forward it for review: 

 

[Merzhi 174]

3 minutes ago, Smin1080p said:

 

We require two agreeing secondary source materials to make a report valid. If that criteria can be met as described within, we can forward it for review: 

 

Yes I'm aware, and I'm also aware there's zero sources stating the thickness of the armor in the turret that will reinforce my reports.