[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

[Nomad_Gaming 6,221]

the whole game is a proof of russian bias, or better usa hate. other nation are playable, but don't tell me that t34s or every russian tanks is hard to use... they are uber easy to learn.

 

 

They just need proper battle-rating and they will be fine.

Tu-4 will never be fine anywhere, because it's gunners will be sniping people from any angle and any speed.

Yak-30 has performance between 8.0 and 9.0 like Panthers and Venoms, but i have no hope it will receive same treatment as the Allied ones.

Mig-17 will never be fine, because it's just the best jet in game and would require all other nations to get a new one.

 

Why Russians must have everything best? Best jet fighters, best jet bombers, best prop bombers, best tanks? Why can't others have something special, which gives reason to play them? US was known for its bombers during WWII, why can't they have at least best bombers in this game?

 

 

That's more incompetent implementation, improper testing, bad communication, and lack of foresight than it is active Russian bias. Compared to, say, a year ago when the T-34E was sitting at 3.3 and ran rough-shod over most of its competition, things have smoothed out. That's not to say, though, that Russia isn't easy mode and doesn't get lots of handouts in part due to developer-nationalism-lite.

[Airbeast 322]

today an L5 could fligh faster than corsair at 7000 meters....

[Stahlvormund101 12,039]

today an L5 could fligh faster than corsair at 7000 meters....

Both suck at this altitude anyways.

[Hispanec 1,291]

Matchmaker is broken tbh. 11 vs 4 top tier jets. Unballanced numbers of top tiers were happening all the time, but now it is way worse.

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[Haneullim 115]

Yeah, MM is working as intended

 

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I once had a match with 12 on my team and less than 6 on enemy team.

We still lost because we didn't do objective. (because orbital strike bomber bombing bases in TU-4)

[Idontknowwhy 87]

IT-1 - this tank is a joke.... U cant stay behind wall and something and kill enemy tank without problem.  Aim with the mouse is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in this game. 

 

 

-Small

-Aiming

-Rotation of the turret

- Reload

 

 

Germany - WSAD

Russia - Mouse 

 

Now compare MAUS (1945) vs him ....

 

 

Always Russian Bias.... Where is the balance ? 

[fufubear 6,705]

How is the maus 1945 when the prototype wasn't even fully complete? The Maus would be a 1946 tank at best.

[Idontknowwhy 87]

You compare tank 1946 vs tanks 20 years  younger? 

How is the maus 1945 when the prototype wasn't even fully complete? The Maus would be a 1946 tank at best.

 

So He must fight vs tanks from 1943-49, not from 1960 + !!!!!!

[fufubear 6,705]

You compare tank 1946 vs tanks 20 years younger?


So He must fight vs tanks from 1943-49, not from 1960 + !!!!!!

No I'm not but other 1945/46 tanks do the same thing.

[Idontknowwhy 87]

of course... Maus is unplayable. Give me your nick and your statistic on Maus.

[Stahlvormund101 12,039]

How is the maus 1945 when the prototype wasn't even fully complete? The Maus would be a 1946 tank at best.

If you look at how much from it was completed in late 1944 I doubt they'd need an entire year to make it fully combat ready.

Edited June 28, 2016 by Stahlvormund101

[fufubear 6,705]

Debatable

[Stahlvormund101 12,039]

Debatable

True, this is entirely up to debate.

You could argue for early 1946 just as good as for late 1945.

[Knighttron 0]

Is BR broken??...I play BR 1 and i keeps meetings BR2. Why is so big difference in this game???

 

(I have only BR 1 in my bars)

Edited June 29, 2016 by Iron_fire

[Tupoun 690]

Hi,

 

get used to it.

 

Bye.

 

PS: I'm the biggest BR 1 spread fan in the world, keep up the good work!

Edited June 29, 2016 by Tupoun

[Serpiko82 7,875]

(I have only BR 1 in my bars)

That's enough to meet enemies up to 1.0 higher than your maximum, unless it's AB air.

You'd better wait until you have more vehicles with comparable BR, in order to build a balanced lineup.

[Halajda 2,489]

In my experience playing Reserve and BR 1.0 tanks, in Ground RB the minimal matchmaker the game will create has always been 1.0-2.0. I have never had a single battle with lower than 1.0-2.0 spread, like 1.0-1.7 or even 1.0 only.

[hatorihina 1,394]

Just saw how a Me262 Pulkzerstörer ripped of the entire tail of a Tu-4, the plane was going roallercoaster tycoon of hell, turning around itself in a unhealthy manner

 

but guess what

 

the gunners of the Tu-4 managed to destory the Me.... even when they turning tornado like around.
Things like these are reasons for people to stop playing this game, it feels so unfinished it smells like a fetus

[Haneullim 115]

 

IT-1 - this tank is a joke.... U cant stay behind wall and something and kill enemy tank without problem.  Aim with the mouse is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in this game. 

 

 

-Small

-Aiming

-Rotation of the turret

- Reload

 

 

Germany - WSAD

Russia - Mouse 

 

Now compare MAUS (1945) vs him ....

 

 

Always Russian Bias.... Where is the balance ? 

 

Cold war tanks should get their own battles.

Except leo.

Because who would kill the t-54's? :)

Just saw how a Me262 Pulkzerstörer ripped of the entire tail of a Tu-4, the plane was going roallercoaster tycoon of hell, turning around itself in a unhealthy manner

 

but guess what

 

the gunners of the Tu-4 managed to destory the Me.... even when they turning tornado like around.
Things like these are reasons for people to stop playing this game, it feels so unfinished it smells like a fetus

Super gunners with lazer accuracy for russia...

And drunk gunners with baby accuracy for other nations!

 

Bravo.

 

Bias.

 

Prussian.

[fufubear 6,705]

Cold war tanks should get their own battles.
Except leo.
Because who would kill the t-54's? :)

Yeah because while the T 54s are fighting in the cold war you can have the leopard clubbing 1945 tanks right?

[Haneullim 115]

Yeah because while the T 54s are fighting in the cold war you can have the leopard clubbing 1945 tanks right?

Sure as hell, lets have mauses shoot t-54's with their nukes.

it would work out, right?

BR extension or Cold war era vehicles have their own modes?

[fufubear 6,705]

Sure as hell, lets have mauses shoot t-54's with their nukes.
it would work out, right?
BR extension or Cold war era vehicles have their own modes?

You missed the point of my post. You said that all cold war tanks should have their own matchmaker except the leopard. The T-54 would already be in cold war matchmaker since we have no 1945 T-54 so the leopard would just club ww2 tanks instead.

[Haneullim 115]

You missed the point of my post. You said that all cold war tanks should have their own matchmaker except the leopard. The T-54 would already be in cold war matchmaker since we have no 1945 T-54 so the leopard would just club ww2 tanks instead.

So, lets leave leo to cold war.

We can do

Korean war tanks vs Korean war tanks

and Cold war tanks vs Cold war tanks.

[Quetzalkoatl 136]

Here are my ideas of BR changes for Air Realistic Battles.

Empty "Proposed BR" means no change.

 

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[Luminoth 918]

What I don't get is why the matches with 1BR range between players is always favoured. No matter what I join in I always find a game that has a little bit of the extreme BR's and a whole bunch of the two middle ones. So why not ditch the low rating and high rating players and have a more even game?

 

I'm seeing this in conjunction with one simple fact. No matter what BR I use, I am the lowest BR of the match 98% of the time (AB GF). And more often than not I still end up in the top 3 of my team. So yeah, I know I can handle those higher BR's, but whenever that 1 in 50 games comes along where I am top BR I get 10 plus kills and it just feels unfair that I have to constantly face people with that advantage.

 

For me, all my tanks are lightly armoured tanks, even heavy tanks as I'm always facing higher rated enemies which can shred through any of my armour. I get that good players if given an advantage will wreck poor players, but why do we need to all be matched up together? Why not have ranked games where you only meet players of your calibre and BR values? Right now I feel like a masochist playing this game as I know that I'm always playing at a disadvantage. And when this couples to extremely poor playing teammates, then it turns into a table flipping situation.