isreali heavy tank IS-3M, Israeli Heavy tank for the task

[CaID 8,996]

 

i would like to suggest a trophy tank for Israel for the sake of having at least 1 heavy tank to feild. the IS-3

 

the IS-3 tank was a Russian heavy tank developped at the very end of WW2 and was in services in serials other country such as Egypt. during the six-day war of 1967, Israel had manage to damage serial IS-3 during the battle. 3 of them saw services in the IDF which at that time the IS-3 was the heaviest tank in their service. but Israel had not used it as a heavy tank. they rather took advantage of the big gun to do indirect fire and bunker in the defence lines. in the situation of 1967, Isreal wasn't in the capacity to afford many medern tank and such prize was a great addition for their military capacity.

while not been particularly nessessairy for the Israeli TT (they have a bunch of other choice that is more unique for this rank) the IS-3 give something that few Israeli vehicles can give. which is a Heavy tank class. the Heavy tank class is not essential for the game but allow to do special task that require a Heavy tank. making it a rather significant addition for the Israeli TT.

 

 

Firepower

the main armament been a 122 mm D-25T , the tank would enjoy a great firepower due to the used of APHE type of ammunition. this gun could penetrate up to 225mm of armour at short distance with the APHE. the elevation been -3°/+20° would make it feel lacking of depression and would make it a more suitable tank for combat in flat ground. the fire-rate of 3 rounds minutes was would make it a bit slow. carrying 28 rounds which due to the long reload would be more than enough for a whole game. the turret been heavy would turn at a speed of 9° which would make it ill suited for close range combat.

in addition the tank have a 7.62 mm DT machine gun as coaxial and a roof 12.7 mm DShK for anti-air support and close defence.

 

Mobility

despite to be a heavy tank the IS-3 will show decent mobility characteristic. if the top speed is not that exceptional with 40 km/h , the reverse speed been 15 km/h would make it a rather decent vehicles in retreat and taking pop-shot. with the long reload, the capacity to easy take cover after shooting is a very appreciated feature. the engine of 520hp and the tank weighting 48 tonnes would make it it have a power weight ration of nearly 11 hp/ton which is not that great for his level.

 

Protection

the protection of this tank is one of his best asset. been relatively low profile, the hull armour feature 110mm at the front and 90mm at the side with good slope all around. the hull been suitable for the ricochet and providing decent protection, the turret is even better with 220mm of armour on a very sloped round turret who's would be just as good to do ricochet. the tank was at his time, setting a new level of protection and drawing the line between the WW2 and coldwar heavy tanks. the crew of 4 men mainly placed in the turret would be rather hard to take out.

 

Specifications
Mass	46,500 kg (102,500 lb) (Combat)
Length	9.85 m (32.3 ft)
Width	3.15 m (10.3 ft)
Height	2.45 m (8 ft 0 in)
Crew	4
Armor	200 mm (7.9 in)-20 mm (0.79 in)
Main armament	122mm Gun D-25 (28 rounds)
Secondary armament	7.62mm DT MG (coaxial, 1000 rounds) 1 x 12.7mm DShK MG (AA, 945 rounds)
Engine	Kharkiv model V-2 (V-2K) (diesel) 600hp@2000rpm
Power/weight	11.0 hp/tonne
Transmission	4 forward, 1 reverse
Operational range	150 km (93 mi)/120 km (75 mi) (On/off-road)
Maximum speed	37 km/h (23 mph)/19 km/h (12 mph) (On/off-road)

 

 

source

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IS-3_(tank)

http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/426870-an-israeli-tech-tree-in-world-of-tanks/#topmost

http://www.tankarchives.ca/2016/06/is-3-in-combat.html

https://yadlashiryon.com/armored/טנק-סטאלין-js3/

[leroyonly 4,311]

Open for discussion. 

[DMYEugen 688]

+1 I have zero issue with trophy tanks, especially since we already have numerous trophy/evaluation aircraft. Though, I can't imagine many share my opinion.

[yoyolast 1,710]

+1, and as you mentioned this is frankly a pretty unique addition to the tree being a heavy tank, so despite being a captured vehicle I think it would be somewhat important to add this.

[Milocat 4,857]

Looks great, +1 from me.  Didn't know the Israelis operated these!

[CaID 8,996]

1 hour ago, Milocat said:

Looks great, +1 from me.  Didn't know the Israelis operated these!

mostly they converted them to defense structure, like the last picture show (the one with the camouflage net) at that point, they removed their engine to make room for more ammunition stowage.

 

but for me it's more for the fact that Israel have no heavy tank outside this one to had.

we could possibly add the Churchill as the Palestinian Jew brigade had used them. this brigade was mostly composed by men that would became later the first soldier of the IDF in 1948. so by extension, it was a Israeli brigade. UK didn't denied to had recruited the soldiers from the Haganah who's was in fact the Israeli militia who later became the IDF

[yoyolast 1,710]

4 hours ago, CaID said:

we could possibly add the Churchill as the Palestinian Jew brigade had used them. this brigade was mostly composed by men that would became later the first soldier of the IDF in 1948. so by extension, it was a Israeli brigade. UK didn't denied to had recruited the soldiers from the Haganah who's was in fact the Israeli militia who later became the IDF

I don't think that is a good idea, this would create a lot of confusion in terms of what is considered Israeli in the game.

 

The IS-3 though... yeah that is actually pretty necessary for this tree looking at it broadly.

 

BTW, it wouldn't even be that bad of an idea to add an entire branch of captured Soviet equipment in the Israeli tree since the Tirans are 100% going to be added in the game and you gotta lead to them somehow.

[salman52_b5@psn 11]

نسخ ونسخ ونسخ ونسخ المركبات السوفيتية ...

Edited October 24, 2022 by salman52_b5@psn

[ykxowo2hsr 4]

On 24/10/2022 at 14:35, salman52_b5@psn said:

نسخ ونسخ ونسخ ونسخ المركبات السوفيتية ...

Nobody has copied is-3 yet, israeli needs to be first) 
But yeah that would be awesome to have is-3m in israeli tree.

[hienapunk 1,065]

Yes but only on the condition that an Arab and Iranian tree is coming eventually.

 

I want the Egyptian is3m.

[memer4life9000@psn 36]

+1

[apostol12 14]

A number of vehicles destroyed or abandoned by the Egyptians in 1967 were captured by the Israel Defense Forces and operated as part of their own armored forces until the early 1970s, both as combat vehicles and tank tractors. At the same time, part of the tanks received V-54 diesel engines taken from T-54/55 tanks instead of worn-out own engines, and the roof of the engine compartment was often transferred. The Israelis did not use the IS-3 tanks in combat, but several vehicles with dismantled engines and transmissions, in place of which additional ammunition was placed, were used in 1969-1970 during the War of Attrition as fixed firing points, and two of them after running out of ammunition, they were again captured by Egyptian troops.

 

[DEERE317 78]

+1

If nothing else I’d be able to complete the kill something with a heavy tank battle pass tasks without using the peashooter Jumbo  or less than ideal teams Tiger.

[apostol12 14]

Спойлер

is 3 with engine from t 54

Edited December 20, 2022 by apostol12

[Spr4yz 59]

7 hours ago, apostol12 said:

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is 3 with engine from t 54

 

That's really cool. Makes sense for logistics. But I wonder if it would have any impact on the tank in-game, since the engines seem identical in performance? The T-54 engine is slightly smaller, but not enough to matter. Weight maybe?

[DMYEugen 688]

13 hours ago, apostol12 said:

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is 3 with engine from t 54

Fascinating. Now the Israel tree has an irrefutable claim to the IS-3M.

[DEERE317 78]

6 hours ago, DMYEugen said:

Fascinating. Now the Israel tree has an irrefutable claim to the IS-3M.

Doesn’t mean everything as the 75 and 76 Sherman’s that Israel operated many of without question haven’t been added yet… and that’d be an “easy” patch like this.

[mytipcreamin 35]

+1 Honestly I think the IS-3M has more merit being in the Israeli Tech Tree than the ZSU-57-2 does

[eleks12 1,079]

+1

 

Isreal should at least have 1 Heavy tank!

 

[_Pixy 196]

+1 Would love this!

[warner7 81]

+0.5, I am not sure what is the difference between the 3M and the ordinary 3.

[mytipcreamin 35]

On 02/05/2023 at 04:31, warner7 said:

+0.5, I am not sure what is the difference between the 3M and the ordinary 3.

IS-3M is a modernization on the original model. There were many small improvements but the main one that's applicable to WT is that the armor under the turret was thickened.

[warner7 81]

On 04/05/2023 at 00:20, mytipcreamin said:

IS-3M is a modernization on the original model. There were many small improvements but the main one that's applicable to WT is that the armor under the turret was thickened.

cool

[CokeSpray 7,274]

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