Interesting P-38 info

[cashmeowsidehbd 1,269]

I was reading a WWII mag from 1999 this am, and according to this magazine the P-38 was "as a whole one of the top three air to air combat fighters of the war". Almost spit out my coffee with that one. Apparently Gaijin doesn't subscribe to THAT magazine!

[Dodo_Dud 5,074]

it is one of my us fav in arcade.

[cashmeowsidehbd 1,269]

16 hours ago, Dodo_Dud said:

it is one of my us fav in arcade.

for a highly skilled pilot it has it's advantages. But how often does it get used in war thunder compared to many other fighters? Not very often actually. My point being that if the game was "accurate" in any way, a lot more people would be playing it. I've had some success with it but not much. It's good at head on attacks but it's easy to avoid as well. Something seems amiss to say the least. According to the article the later p-38's could perform on par with any 109 or spitfire, but i don't see that happening in the game. At least using how often people fly it as a measuring stick. It's great against bombers but it's a struggle trying to fight against most fighters. Maybe It's an altitude thing? To low?

[anyuser 5,136]

Maybe its a skill thing?
And skill is very low for the big part of the Arcarde player population.

And US (only) players are usually a new low all the time.

 

Because in reality it needed a skilled pilot to be on par vs 109 and Spit.

 

Btw, is this about all P-38 or a special one. Because they are very different in their capabilities.

[Measured 107]

17 hours ago, cashmeowsidehbd said:

I was reading a WWII mag from 1999 this am, and according to this magazine the P-38 was "as a whole one of the top three air to air combat fighters of the war". Almost spit out my coffee with that one. Apparently Gaijin doesn't subscribe to THAT magazine!

Did you mean to post in Air Arcade forum?

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18 hours ago, cashmeowsidehbd said:

I was reading a WWII mag from 1999 this am, and according to this magazine the P-38 was "as a whole one of the top three air to air combat fighters of the war". Almost spit out my coffee with that one. Apparently Gaijin doesn't subscribe to THAT magazine!

p-38pilot.pdf - Yandex.Documents

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Edited January 22, 2022 by PLESETZK

[DerGrafVonZahl 4,229]

2 hours ago, cashmeowsidehbd said:

for a highly skilled pilot it has it's advantages. But how often does it get used in war thunder compared to many other fighters? Not very often actually. My point being that if the game was "accurate" in any way, a lot more people would be playing it. I've had some success with it but not much. It's good at head on attacks but it's easy to avoid as well. Something seems amiss to say the least. According to the article the later p-38's could perform on par with any 109 or spitfire, but i don't see that happening in the game. At least using how often people fly it as a measuring stick. It's great against bombers but it's a struggle trying to fight against most fighters. Maybe It's an altitude thing? To low?

 

It's a very god plane and a very stable gun Platform.ome of themain issues in ww2 was that the pilots were mostly poorly trained and missed most of their shots. So the immense stability of the lightning was a major Advantage IRL that doesn't matter in AB/RB at all. In addition to that, it's a pretty big plane making it easy to hit with mouse aim. It was the plane of choice of the leading us aces as well.

 

In SIM the p38 really shines.

 

So gaijin seems to know about the strength of that plane (as it has these strength pretty well represented in this game). Those strength are simply pretty useless in AB/RB.

 

This begs the question why would youcompare the real lufe Performance of a plane to AB or even RB,where you have mouse aim which pretty much ruins the comparison to real life?

 

1 hour ago, Measured said:

Did you mean to post in Air Arcade forum?

 

Good question. Comparisons to real life really only make sense for the simmode

Edited January 22, 2022 by DerGrafVonZahl

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On 21/01/2022 at 14:32, cashmeowsidehbd said:

I was reading a WWII mag from 1999 this am, and according to this magazine the P-38 was "as a whole one of the top three air to air combat fighters of the war". Almost spit out my coffee with that one. Apparently Gaijin doesn't subscribe to THAT magazine!

 

Top 2 american aces flew P-38s 

[anyuser 5,136]

It came to my mind, that this might be something I have seen for other US planes too.

 

Which theater of War we are talking about?

 

P-38 in Asia got speed, climb and firepower over all of its enemies. And later models High Speed Control.

P-38 over Europe - none of the ones above to be honest. Yes, against a Bf 110 or Me 210/410. Speed at high altitude against a Fw 190. But beside that, High speed control and that would be it.

 

Came to my mind because I was remembering the P-40, where I was reading 2 contradicting things about.

One was describing it as a flying brick, that unfortunately lost even more agility from getting the inline engine from the P-36 to the P-40.

One was the story about how the P-36 outdone the Spitfire in mock up turnfights and how the P-40 might not have been faster or better in climbing then its enemies, but how it was good as them or even better in turnfighting them.

One observation was fulled by the fights of the P-40 in Asia, one told the story from Europe.

[cashmeowsidehbd 1,269]

ok after a few missions in the j model, i can say that it is a pretty good bnz plane. The concentration of fire is devastating and it's climb out ability is outrageous. Still not as maneuverable as it's less than 2 second turn ratio deficit compared to the same rank 109's and spitfires should have it but it's workable. And it seems a little slow on the elevator considering it goes from nacelle to nacelle. Verts seem week too considering there is two of them. Still seems a little less maneuverable than it should be.

[Waelse 278]

Use flaps in turning engagements. It holds energy and after some rounds take advantage over the Bf-s.