[2.14.0.30] Puma IFV lacks NERA plates beneath the CLARA ERA.

[Jεcka 4,618]

Puma IFV currently lacks composite add-on for the sides - instead it has a thin layer of aluminium alloy:

 

However, as seen on those images, Puma should have an anti-APFSDS layer beneath the ERA - capable of resisting 30/35mm APFSDS:

 

 

 

The side hull armour should look like this:

The side armor is CLARA --> ULTRAX --> AMAP --> Hull plate.

 

Additional footage:

 

Edited March 11, 2022 by Zeluar

[Stuhlfleisch 3,762]

Hello, thak you for your interest in improving the game! I'd need sources for the picture and the diagram.

 

Cheers.

[Jεcka 4,618]

5 minutes ago, Stuhlfleisch said:

Hello, thak you for your interest in improving the game! I'd need sources for the picture and the diagram.

 

Cheers.

For the picture with ERA removed to see the NERA side panels:

https://below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.com/2016/10/puma-ifv-armor-and-upgrade-speculations.html

 

For the diagram:

It's from IBD videos - however, sadly those were removed - i can still link you to where they're from though.

https://www.eodh-protection.com/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=24

 

[Stuhlfleisch 3,762]

6 minutes ago, Zeluar said:

For the picture with ERA removed to see the NERA side panels:

https://below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.com/2016/10/puma-ifv-armor-and-upgrade-speculations.html

 

For the diagram:

It's from IBD videos - however, sadly those were removed - i can still link you to where they're from though.

https://www.eodh-protection.com/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=24

 

 

Private websites like blogs are not considered valid sources, I'd need at least two secondary sources in the form of books or defence blogs, or a primary source in the form of, for example, a manufacturer document.

[Jεcka 4,618]

24 minutes ago, Stuhlfleisch said:

 

Private websites like blogs are not considered valid sources, I'd need at least two secondary sources in the form of books or defence blogs, or a primary source in the form of, for example, a manufacturer document.

https://www.armadainternational.com/2020/01/rheinmetall-awarded-order-package-worth-e54-million-to-supply-materiel-for-the-puma-infantry-fighting-vehicle/

 

http://fighting-vehicles.com/puma-ifv-spz/

 

Additional secondary defence blogs.

 

Source for cited protection against middle calibre projectiles (APFSDS - 30mm):

http://www.psm-spz.de/fileadmin/data/data_sheet_protection.pdf

Edited March 11, 2022 by Zeluar

[Stuhlfleisch 3,762]

There are seemingly three total plates representing the side-armour of the Puma, do you have sources on the materials used besides the diagram which was taken from the videos which no longer are accessible?

 

Spoiler

 

[Jεcka 4,618]

15 minutes ago, Stuhlfleisch said:

There are seemingly three total plates representing the side-armour of the Puma, do you have sources on the materials used besides the diagram which was taken from the videos which no longer are accessible?

 

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https://web.archive.org/web/20101015234556/http://www.ibd-deisenroth-engineering.de/amap-ied.html?file=tl_files%2Fresources%2Fcontent-pdfs%2Fbrochures_uk%2FAMAP-IED.pdf

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20101015234223/http://www.ibd-deisenroth-engineering.de/amap-l.html?file=tl_files%2Fresources%2Fcontent-pdfs%2Fbrochures_uk%2FAMAP-L.pdf

 

https://en.topwar.ru/147333-razmyshlenija-o-bronirovanii-i-modernizacii-nemeckoj-bmp-puma.html

 

The last one shows that the armour is based around ceramics and NERA instead of plain steel/aluminium.

 

Found the document that shows the compositon:

https://web.archive.org/web/20111008031621/http://www.ibd-deisenroth-engineering.de/press-coverage.html?file=tl_files%2Fresources%2Fcontent-pdfs%2Fpassiv_protection.pdf

Edited March 11, 2022 by Zeluar

[Stuhlfleisch 3,762]

30 minutes ago, Zeluar said:

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20101015234556/http://www.ibd-deisenroth-engineering.de/amap-ied.html?file=tl_files%2Fresources%2Fcontent-pdfs%2Fbrochures_uk%2FAMAP-IED.pdf

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20101015234223/http://www.ibd-deisenroth-engineering.de/amap-l.html?file=tl_files%2Fresources%2Fcontent-pdfs%2Fbrochures_uk%2FAMAP-L.pdf

 

https://en.topwar.ru/147333-razmyshlenija-o-bronirovanii-i-modernizacii-nemeckoj-bmp-puma.html

 

The last one shows that the armour is based around ceramics and NERA instead of plain steel/aluminium.

 

Found the document that shows the compositon:

https://web.archive.org/web/20111008031621/http://www.ibd-deisenroth-engineering.de/press-coverage.html?file=tl_files%2Fresources%2Fcontent-pdfs%2Fpassiv_protection.pdf

 

Thanks, I will investigate and process soon.

[Stuhlfleisch 3,762]

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