Mi-24V/P compatible ATGMs not in game

[jet_17_49 411]

Game version

My game version: (2.13.0.180)

 

Description

The Mi-24 can theoretically carry a number of other models of the 9M114 ATGM besides the baseline variant in game, including the 9M114F with a thermobaric warhead, a supposed 9M114M with an improved HEAT warhead as well as missiles from the 9M120 series.

 

The reason I brought this up is that the vanilla 9M114 is somewhat unwieldy against the kinds of tanks that exist within the 9.7~10.7 BR range, and I hope the devs can consider giving the Mi-24s some marginally better ATGMs (the 9M114M and maybe the 9M114F as a gimmick, I suppose the 9M120s might be a bit too much for 9.7 given their ability to track moving targets) that are less likely to be completely absorbed by an MBT's tracks from the side.

 

So far I've found a magazine that states that the 9M114Fs were added to the Mi-24s' arsenal as early as 1983 and a manual for Russian pilots with a section on how not to use the 9M114F. I haven't found any official documents on whether they were ever equipped with the other more advanced missiles but a bunch of websites I've visited seem to agree that the Mi-24 can basically fire whatever missiles the ground based Shturm-S had access to (all variants of the 114 as well as the 120 series).

 

Steps to reproduce the issue

1. Open the Mi-24 loadout/modifications menu

2. Observe that the baseline 9M114 is the only missile available to the Mi-24V and Mi-24P

 

Additional Information

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http://www.airwar.ru/weapon/aat/shturm.html

http://xn--80aafy5bs.xn--p1ai/aviamuseum/dvigateli-i-vooruzhenie/aviatsionnoe-vooruzhenie/sssr/aviatsionnye-rakety/upravlyaemye-rakety/ur-vozduh-poverhnost/protivotankovyj-raketnyj-kompleks-9k113-shturm-v

https://www.enemyforces.net/missiles/shturm.htm

https://weaponsystems.net/system/522-9K114+Shturm

 

 

Affected vehicles

• Mi-24V

• Mi-24P (the Soviet one at least, not sure if improved 9M114s were ever exported to the DDR)

 

Files

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# Sources

Sources should comply with the requirements.

1. Source 1

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   1. ПАМЯТКА ЛЕТЧИКУ ВЕРТОЛЕТА МИ-24

   2. (none)

   3. Pg. 25 (As much as it may seem so I did not make this up in Microsoft Word)

   

    

2. Source 2

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   1. ПТУР Сужоптных Войск, архив пресс, киев

   2. 

   http://libgen.is/covers/707000/fcff6c22c17febeaa1e925ed8d4da705-g.jpg

   3.Pg. 20, 21

   

   

3. Source 3

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   1. Voevoj Vertolyot Mi-24, S. Moroz, I. Prikhodchenko

   2.

   

   3. Pg. 15

   

 

Edited March 22, 2022 by jet_17_49

[jet_17_49 411]

Stumbled upon the website of a Belarusian arms company that happens to be selling Shturm missiles. The relevant page has this to say:

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Aeronautic missile antitank system "Shturm-B" is designed on the basis of ground self-propelled antitank 9K114 "Shturm-S".
In the composition of both systems the same munition is used - missiles 9M114, 9M114M and 9M114F. Currently the system allows using upgraded missiles "Ataka" - 9M120, 9M120F, 9A2200 and 9M2313.

https://www.bvpservice.by/en/catalog/ammunition/shturm-b-system

 

I believe this might confirm the existence of an 9M114M as well as the notion that Mi-24s can use whatever missiles the ground based Shturm-S can, including Atakas if necessary.

Edited March 21, 2022 by jet_17_49

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